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gurglamesh
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States30 Posts
February 01 2012 08:00 GMT
#1441
yessss wolf is the only one of those casters who isnt totally incompitent. moletrap is at least not nearly as creepy as khaldor. why play casters who dont understand the game any more than an average gold player? keep wolf and doa. doa isnt too compitent but at least he has a reasonable sense of humor
OutofmymindSC2
Profile Joined January 2012
Bulgaria80 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:14:39
February 01 2012 08:12 GMT
#1442
I dont like Moletraps casting. I think Wolf is hands down the best caster of the three - Moletrap/Khaldor/Wolf

Moletraps lack of game knowledge and constant screaming is too much for my ears
Superdogmot
Profile Joined December 2004
Australia20 Posts
February 01 2012 08:15 GMT
#1443
Moletrap's ok sometimes but he definitely makes the wrong call a lot of the time with regards to analysis of the situation in the game, and his jokes and voice can be annoying. I find myself yelling corrections at him while I'm watching all the time. He has plenty of fans but really the GSL needs the best of the best. I would personally be completly happy if Wolf and Khaldor were the 2 non-Code S casters.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
February 01 2012 08:40 GMT
#1444
On February 01 2012 16:32 Lyter wrote:


He is also incredibly insulting to players, Wolf brought out the match history of a player I think that we hadn't seen in a while, since an open season and his only win was against Vines. Now of course Moletrap has to go on to say how bad vines is so this guy is probably bad too

Should be enough to fire him. But Gom doesn't care about the English stream. He shows up to work and that's all they care.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
February 01 2012 08:43 GMT
#1445
For just 1 day, would TL refrain from nitpicking on casters? Just 1 day guys, you can do it.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
InSSerenity
Profile Joined July 2011
117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 08:51:21
February 01 2012 08:48 GMT
#1446
On February 01 2012 17:43 Bayyne wrote:
For just 1 day, would TL refrain from nitpicking on casters? Just 1 day guys, you can do it.


Most people are just posting "constructive" criticism. There's nothing wrong with expecting the most from an organization especially when the organization expects a lot from the players.
If GOM punishes Naniwa for not delivering a product that the fans would enjoy, why do they not do it for Moletrap?

*For the record I support their punishment against Naniwa*
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
February 01 2012 10:27 GMT
#1447
I personally don't enjoy MOletrap's commentary or style. I like khaldor and wolf better, as wolf offers good game knowledge and khaldor has a natural, enthusiastic style that gets you excited in the big battles. My hope is that moletrap improves as a caster and adopts a style that is more bearable. Dunno which style this could be...
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
February 01 2012 10:47 GMT
#1448
On February 01 2012 17:48 InSSerenity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 17:43 Bayyne wrote:
For just 1 day, would TL refrain from nitpicking on casters? Just 1 day guys, you can do it.


Most people are just posting "constructive" criticism. There's nothing wrong with expecting the most from an organization especially when the organization expects a lot from the players.
If GOM punishes Naniwa for not delivering a product that the fans would enjoy, why do they not do it for Moletrap?

*For the record I support their punishment against Naniwa*

Problem here is, while there may not neccesarily be hate, a lot of people can't really be constructive when it comes to certain issues.
For me, I'm not amazed about his style and game knowledge, but absolutely horrified by his high pitched voice so I automute code A everytime I hear it.

This cannot be addressed, no matter how the listeners or the caster himself would like to improve, and to state this is neither hating, or constructive.
Plutoburn
Profile Joined February 2012
1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 17:02:39
February 01 2012 17:00 GMT
#1449
zenex_treme vs ogs_nada was a tough match to watch because of the casting and showed why Moletrap's ability as a caster is subpar.

1. Habitually talking over cocaster.
2. Repeating something cocaster said 10 seconds ago. (Raven can use drones to defend against stalkers)
3. Shallow analysis

And the comment he made about Japan and nuclear bomb just absolutely has no place in a e-sport commentary.


*Yes, this is my first post, and I got to this thread by google moletrap sucks to see if anyone else feel the same way, and I have to say I wasn't shocked at all to see there is a fair amount of people feeling the same way. Compelled to make an account just to get my 2cents in.
Only dead fish go with the flow
SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
February 06 2012 21:52 GMT
#1450
I personally really like Moletrap as a caster but I can understand how he might not fit the role of traditional caster. I've always liked him for his casual enthusiasm, like a friend talking about something he's passionate about I don't think of him as authoritive omnipotent voice.
Every other critical comment states how they hope he can improve and I think that is for the most part not possible. For SC2 knowledge he started late in the game around September of 2010 which is more than half a year after most people were following SC2 so he can catch up a bit. For tone of voice I don't know how much voice coaching can change the way a person speaks. As with his overall casting abilities he's been casting Starcraft games since 2006 which is as much practice as almost any eSports caster in North America is going to have so I don't see that improving too much more.
My other car is a battlecruiser.
anApple
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore275 Posts
February 10 2012 10:17 GMT
#1451
On February 01 2012 19:27 KingPwny wrote:
I personally don't enjoy MOletrap's commentary or style. I like khaldor and wolf better, as wolf offers good game knowledge and khaldor has a natural, enthusiastic style that gets you excited in the big battles. My hope is that moletrap improves as a caster and adopts a style that is more bearable. Dunno which style this could be...

Yeah.... until then, I really hope that GOM makes it so that he casts less, hate having to mute not only Code A, but the GSTL now as well....
huehuehue
theofficial
Profile Joined February 2012
12 Posts
February 10 2012 12:41 GMT
#1452
On February 10 2012 19:17 CeroFail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 19:27 KingPwny wrote:
I personally don't enjoy MOletrap's commentary or style. I like khaldor and wolf better, as wolf offers good game knowledge and khaldor has a natural, enthusiastic style that gets you excited in the big battles. My hope is that moletrap improves as a caster and adopts a style that is more bearable. Dunno which style this could be...

Yeah.... until then, I really hope that GOM makes it so that he casts less, hate having to mute not only Code A, but the GSTL now as well....


I am very critical of casters because they are in charge of the entertainment in my eyes. Moletrap at least has BW experience, if he could get out of his own way it would be good.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 12:46:19
February 10 2012 12:45 GMT
#1453
did you hear the "joke" about Japan and a nuclear bomb?
Im not buying GOMTV until he is fired.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
February 10 2012 12:55 GMT
#1454
On February 10 2012 21:45 llKenZyll wrote:
did you hear the "joke" about Japan and a nuclear bomb?
Im not buying GOMTV until he is fired.


what "joke"?
demitap
Profile Joined November 2011
Lithuania143 Posts
February 10 2012 13:04 GMT
#1455
i really hate his screams, if anyone haven't heard his annoying fake over-acted scream:


Everytime i watch this video i really cant stand but want to punch my monitor.
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
February 10 2012 13:04 GMT
#1456
Although khaldor nor wolf aren't my favorte caster, they don't make a match worst with their comments, they just don't change much for me. But moletrap makes me just want to see the game without any commentaries.

Gom could add a function to disable moletrap's mic so people could hear only the game and the other caster (it probably wouldn't work since moletrap screams so much we would hear it from his co-caster's mic).
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Savern101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom859 Posts
February 10 2012 13:13 GMT
#1457
My biggest problem with Moletrap isn't his lack of analysis or game knowledge, he is a play-by-play caster and he's ok at it. My main gripe is that he just doesn't seem to prepare before a cast. He constantly gets information wrong when talking about a players past, or even the race they play. And he often attempts to reference a game from a previous tourney and completely gets it wrong and sits there apologising for not remembering.

Compared to someone like Apollo who is constantly up to date with players recent builds and history, it just seem like lack of effort on his part.
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Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
February 10 2012 13:19 GMT
#1458
Okay I didnt like Moletrap from the beginning of his GOM casting. Now since this is about constructive criticism I will name a few areas he needs to work really hard on in order to improve (so that hopefully I can like him one day -- although I honestly dont think this day will ever come)
(1) He needs work REAAALLY hard on his game knowledge. This has been stated here countless times and it cannot be stressed enough since this it is really lacking and its the most important part of the criticism of him.
(2) He really needs stop his super fake "excitement" which is annoying as hell for me. What is especially irritating is that it sounds soooo 100% fake. And on top of that it hurts my ears since he does like to scream very very loudly.
(3) His voice is really annoying as well (but this is my personal taste so to speak)
(4) He needs to stop his terrible jokes
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 15:52:50
February 10 2012 15:52 GMT
#1459
Guys how can you say Moletrap lacks game knowledge?? He casted SC:BW and beat SC2 single player on brutal!!

In all seriousness, he's hard to listen to; I suppose it's somewhat entertaining to mentally question him at every turn but the novelty soon wears off. I appreciate GOM giving the option to listen to the Korean commentary but thats really not a good solution... Constructive criticism--play the game!
DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
February 10 2012 15:53 GMT
#1460
So..is this a 73 page long hate thread for Moletrap. And it hasn't even been enough to get him out of casting. You guys got rid of kellymilkies in 5 minutes, so why can't you get rid of this one? I am disappoint Internet.
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