Mr. Bitter: The foreign players have to get better - Page 5

So you're not afraid of tournaments becoming boring because of first places being occupied solely by Koreans?

On August 07 2011 03:58 TedJustice wrote:
I hate the idea that tournaments are boring just because a korean wins them. People with that attitude are just spoiled. I'm willing to bet nobody who followed the brood war scene thought a tournament was boring just because "another korean won".

Koreans are people too. It's not like they're just machines. A lot of work and practice goes into them winning stuff, and they deserve just as much respect and admiration as foreigners do.

Frankly I wish people would put aside nationality and root for the best players. Those players just happen to live in korea.

On August 07 2011 03:29 Jesushooves wrote:
It's hard for foreigners to compete, most people can only play a few hours a day...and it isn't really socially acceptable that you play 12 hours a day outside of Korea...I doubt the skill gap will shrink at all unfortunately

On August 07 2011 04:14 FuTon wrote:


No, it's very exciting.

On August 07 2011 03:58 TedJustice wrote:

Frankly I wish people would put aside nationality and root for the best players. Those players just happen to live in korea.

On August 07 2011 01:04 Chargelot wrote:




You know, when America was new, the British were dominating.

What is true now, at this very moment, is not necessarily true in 10 years. That applies to everything.

On August 07 2011 04:28 Premier wrote:


Actually, America had just kicked Britian's ass... so they weren't doing to well.

On August 07 2011 04:26 Iberville wrote:


I don't see what the big deal is about wanting someone from your country to win. Stating that you don't care is certainly your prerogative, as it is someone else's to feel the contrary.

On another note, I feel that it is quite ridiculous that some put forth the argument that if your interest in a sport wades as it is dominated by X country means you don't like that sport. International hockey is dominated by three teams mostly, and it's boring. Boring. Boring. Boring. Women's hockey is worst: it's basically Canada vs USA. Boring. Boring. Boring. When a sport is completely dominated by one country... well.

I dislike those who will say that I don't like hockey because of what I feel the international sport scene is. Same thing for SC2.

I also dislike those who impose upon others a criteria of what it means to be a fan of a certain sport because I don't agree with their point of view; ie: you find tournaments boring because Koreans always wins, that means you don't like SC2; uninstall. That is not an argument. It's imposing your point of view on others.

Food for thought.

On August 07 2011 04:46 TedJustice wrote:

That's fine and dandy, but your country isn't "non-korea". It's silly that people will root for every foreigner, even ones that aren't from their country, but not koreans.

On August 07 2011 05:01 Nemireck wrote:
Foreigners don't have to pick up their game to stop the scene from dwindling. So long as the Koreans continue to travel to these events, people will watch them online, and people will show up to watch them live.Bring Nestea to an MLG and tell me that the viewers on stream won't break MLG records, and attendance at the event itself won't increase. Hell, the only reason I paid for my MLG pass is because the games have got more exciting with the higher-tier players from Korea being invited to play.

Most foreigners simply do not practice enough to show off exciting games, and a tournament without any top-tier players (see: Korea + a few select foreigners) just isn't worth the money. Compared to Koreans, foreigner games look like Gold matches where both sides max to 200/200 then throw their armies at each other until one guy GG's, and that's not exciting (in fact, early in SC2 inControl had some major success against Zerg specifically by doing NOTHING but bluffing attacks until he maxed out, and now look at him). Now, I'm certain they could kick my ass, but I'm speaking in relative terms here, games by foreigners look amateur compared to the games that the Koreans, and a few select foreigners put together. Yes, they have to get better if they want to compete to win, but so long as the Korean players are actually traveling to the foreign tournaments, they will still draw viewers, because more than anything, spectators want to see the BEST compete.

On August 07 2011 05:02 MrKn4rz wrote:
People should stop comparing Starcraft with team sport.

So you're not afraid of tournaments becoming boring because of first places being occupied solely by Koreans? We have seen a glimpse of that in recent weeks.

I'm terrified of this possibility because it would make the spectator's experience stale in my opinion.

On August 07 2011 00:58 brachester wrote:
it's not about being a korean or not, it's all about the amount of time the foreinger players willing to sacrifice to practice. In korea and asian cultures in general, gaming is still not as accepted as in the western but it still has much stronger gaming teams and players. It's is because these players are willing to play at a professional level, they are willing to risk their future, some may even oppose their parents and friends to play starcraft 2. The foreingers must step up their attitude toward esport or else, they will never catch up. Even some lower level players in korea are more hardworking than most of the top foreginer i know.

On August 07 2011 00:58 brachester wrote:
... In korea and asian cultures in general, gaming is still not as accepted as in the western but it still has much stronger gaming teams and players...