EPT'TSL expelled from SC2 Conference' - Page 39
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DumJumJmyWum
United States75 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:24 Sein wrote: Wait, are you talking about FD and Tester from oGs to TSL? I was under the impression that they formed TSL after they left oGs. Tester himself says that FD and he left oGs because they wanted a more free practice regimen than what oGs was starting to organize. TSL was formed by trickster, fd, clide and a few other players and of course mr.lee at first it started as a joint venture. mr. lee was appointed as the fiscal guy that gets all the sponsorships. soon though he changed his position into head coach himself. at least thats what i get from the startale coaches statement | ||
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wolfe
United States761 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:24 Sein wrote: Wait, are you talking about FD and Tester from oGs to TSL? I was under the impression that they formed TSL after they left oGs. Tester himself says that FD and he left oGs because they wanted a more free practice regimen than what oGs was starting to organize. Didn't they leave oGs only after Lee approached them with the idea of forming TSL? Eh I don't know what to make of it. | ||
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
Who knows, like Rek said, he couldn't go into details. Maybe oGs is just a notch or two more classy than some of the teams we are use to? | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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Grimsong
United States252 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:14 tl55555 wrote: Sorry, but it's easy to make those assumptions based on what you're written. When you come back to reality let me know. Way to dodge anything I had to say and continue the personal attacks. To me, and to anyone else. Sad that's what you've let your posts regress to. Reminds me of a child saying "I know you are but what am I". The only reality in this thread is that Coach Lee withheld money from people he was supposed to be paying, money that wasn't even out of his OWN pocket. | ||
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wolfe
United States761 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:27 Licmyobelisk wrote: Holy shit I just thought about it. So that's why TSL is "The SCV Life" because the players are SCV's and Coach Lee is a mother fucking orbital command gone haywire.. I guess Clide and Killer are mules? xD Impossible, because mules expire... Clide's not going to expire is he :D? | ||
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
FruitDealer is my favourite player, despite him leaving TSL, TSL remained my favourite team. Poor Killer and Clide..they need to get out now.. | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:27 Licmyobelisk wrote: Holy shit I just thought about it. So that's why TSL is "The SCV Life" because the players are SCV's and Coach Lee is a mother fucking orbital command gone haywire.. I guess Clide and Killer are mules? xD more like a BFH | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
- if Lee really had period where he came to the house only twice a month, he's just a bad coach. - all the rest is too much speculation, because it wouldn't surprise me that tester and fd had the house spirit completely ruined. Those guys won nearly 5000$ a month (code S included), so seeing them afk all day when their non paid teammates are practicing non stop can really be a disaster. I can understand how things could have snowballed from this. Apart from that (which is speculation already), nothing in this thread is factual (this post included), so posting definite judgments one way or another isn't very smart imo. | ||
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andrea20
Canada441 Posts
Translation of the Startale manager's response: ...I am still trying to understand how they don't have enough money to run their team. Manager Lee said that they give out 1,000,000 WON ($1000) to their players as snack money each month, and that money is enough to pay for their monthly utility fee and car maintenance. He also claimed their their food expenses are over 5,000,000 WON ($5000) each month, but our team only spends 2,000,000 - 2,500,000 WON for 15 player, and that's including feeding them weekly beef/chicken/fish, so I don't understand why TSL needs that much money for only 8-9 players. I would like to ask TSL's manager if he thinks spending that much on food is wise, and you would have to question if he has the right qualities as a manager. I would like to ask him if thinks withholding player salaries to run his team is the correct decision. Wait. Startale only feeds their players meat once a week? Oog, as a meat-lover, that sounds terrible to me~ | ||
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wolfe
United States761 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:31 MrCon wrote: There's 2 things : - if Lee really had period where he came to the house only twice a month, he's just a bad coach. - all the rest is too much speculation, because it wouldn't surprise me that tester and fd had the house spirit completely ruined. Those guys won nearly 5000$ a month (code S included), so seeing them afk all day when their non paid teammates are practicing non stop can really be a disaster. I can understand how things could have snowballed from this. Apart from that (which is speculation already), nothing in this thread is factual (this post included), so posting definite judgments one way or another isn't very smart imo. Withholding salaries, lying about sponsors, and continuing to use FD/T promotional images... that's fact. Especially the 1st and 3rd. There wouldn't be this argument without the 1st and I've seen the 3rd for myself lol. On August 05 2011 05:32 andrea20 wrote: Wait. Startale only feeds their players meat once a week? Oog, as a meat-lover, that sounds terrible to me~ I don't think it means what you're thinking it means. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:32 andrea20 wrote: Wait. Startale only feeds their players meat once a week? Oog, as a meat-lover, that sounds terrible to me~ yeah because thats something important in this thread. | ||
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:32 andrea20 wrote: Wait. Startale only feeds their players meat once a week? Oog, as a meat-lover, that sounds terrible to me~ Is that why Bomber is so little? :D Not enough proteins! | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:29 wolfe wrote: Impossible, because mules expire... Clide's not going to expire is he :D? So maybe FD and Trickster are perpetually idle SCVs, Clide and Killer are good ol' solid regular SCVs, and Coach Lee is a planetary fortress gone haywire? Hmmmmm. Then again, Clide does look like he's about to expire sometimes when I see him at the group selections. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:33 wolfe wrote: Withholding salaries, lying about sponsors, and continuing to use FD/T promotional images... that's fact. Especially the 1st and 3rd. There wouldn't be this argument without the 1st and I've seen the 3rd for myself lol. shouldnt we hear back from coach lee before declaring it fact? we already have reason to believe that the hearing was very biased | ||
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Nowis0n
United States47 Posts
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wolfe
United States761 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:37 Condor Hero wrote: shouldnt we hear back from coach lee before declaring it fact? we already have reason to believe that the hearing was very biased Well I'm holding my judgement back for now I guess, same way I held it back for EG which turned out to be the right move. I feel like with EG/TSL EG was the one that got shat on publicly. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:32 andrea20 wrote: Wait. Startale only feeds their players meat once a week? Oog, as a meat-lover, that sounds terrible to me~ I think I saw a tour of one of the team houses (oGs or ST) that showed them having a meal, and there seemed to be tons of vegetables in the meal. I think the lack of meat is more of a cultural thing, as meat is expensive yet Koreans are quite fine having vegetables as a staple of their meals. Nevertheless, TSL's budget does seem a bit suspect. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On August 05 2011 05:18 spybreak wrote: Why the hell is this thread about lawyers now instead of talking about Mr. Lee and FD/Trickster Because we might get a lawyer grudgematch | ||
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