EPT'TSL expelled from SC2 Conference' - Page 3
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:36 enecateReAP wrote: Funny how everyone was making out how respectable coach lee is, and how they flamed puma for leaving such a loyal coach....He lost my respect. people, and coach Lee, were flamming EG for approaching the players from behind, only a minority flaming puma for leaving which is quite unreasonable. | ||
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chrisv10
Denmark65 Posts
http://sc2tsl.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=61&wr_id=2016&page=0&sca=&sfl=&stx=&sst=&sod=&spt=0&page=0 | ||
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NightAngel
United States144 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:35 Tachion wrote: What's the purpose behind being in the SC2PA? SlayerS still isn't in it according to that last line, and now TSL is gone as well. What difference does it make to take part in it? It seems as though they left to avoid paying back the wages. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:37 TheSilverfox wrote: Which teams are members of the SC2 Players Association? What I can see SlayerS isn't a member of the association as well, is there a reason why it is so? You can read Jessica's response about it here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236783 Just search for association and you'll come upon the paragraph, it only really talks about boxer being involved in it though, and not why slayers as a whole is not participating. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
I can't quite put my finger on how i feel about SC2PA yet but they did a good thing here. i think? Its good that the players wishes are being backed up. I also wonder if they will get their money? | ||
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Shaxe
Netherlands590 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:41 mapthesoul wrote: Nope, this is coach lee. He was also a coach for MBCgame, but not head coach like mama bear. That's papa bear, mama bear (Coach Lee) always seemed so nice to players in the TV series, didn't expect him to lash out on players like that. | ||
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Purpose2
England187 Posts
Atleast players like Puma, FD and Tester are no longer with this poorly managed team, and I hiope those that are still signed to TSL are able to find safe homes soon. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:41 Ozcollo wrote: Gee golly, so this is what all that Korean team "family" was about. /sarcasm In all seriousness though, how does this effect their participation in tournaments? I was unaware of any kind of governing body over the teams there. However, the SC2PA does not wish to cripple the competition in Korea and is not considering any sanctions regarding their participation in leagues. It's in the OP.  | ||
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SungTongs
New Zealand2 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:39 Snaiil wrote: So does Coach Lee still have to pay FD and Trickster despite leaving SC2PA? No, I would assume not since they were sanctions put in place by the SC2PA. I'm not sure exactly what the SC2PA but I'm assuming it's a voluntary organisation with no real power. | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:31 ch33psh33p wrote: Hmm.. So what were Fruitdealer and Tester doing to hurt the team image? They didn't really explain that, and only told them to take an introspective look at their actions. Was it just underperformance? Probably underperformance - I imagine coach Lee withholding their salary because of lack of results. Obviously, I don't understand everything about asian culture, but I really think TSL's management is starting to look rotten, also with the Puma-case in mind. Even though leaving your team is a very drastical thing to do in Korea, I can totally understand both FruitDealer, Tester and PuMa - If a guy promises to pay you, and even go public and puts numbers on these salaries and then just dosn't pay up, I would leave as well. This wouldn't just affect the players who were promised salary, but also the other players on the team live and talk to the affected players every day.. Even though he is regarded very highly in Korea, I think coach Lee is starting to look like a douche | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:43 chrisv10 wrote: TSL response: http://sc2tsl.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=61&wr_id=2016&page=0&sca=&sfl=&stx=&sst=&sod=&spt=0&page=0 Can you give us a translation please? I can't read koreans -_- | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:36 Aurdon wrote: It is interesting that this comes out after Mr Lee portrayed himself as some great victim in the EG/Puma drama. He portrayed himself as some great father figured that was taken advantage of by EG and Puma. It was really obvious in the Puma/EG situation that the only reason it blew up is because Coach Lee was in over his head. The drama was the result of him whining. It was pretty obvious TSL wasn't in good shape after that fiasco. Doesn't look like it'll get better. SC2con is something like the player's version of doing KeSPA's job. It's really about arbitration and keeping things above board. They list team rosters and all that fun jazz. SlayerS is like a partner but not a member, I believe. Not sure why, as I don't read Korean, so hard to figure out. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Namu
United States826 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On August 04 2011 20:42 AxionSteel wrote: Hahahaha, knew there were more reasons for everyone leaving TSL. It's a separate issue though. I'm in no way saying Lee's actions were correct. Just trying to see things from his light. I'm quite sad that the past few drama incidents have really dropped TSL's reputation needlessly. The issue however seems to be with FD and Trickster, who were not putting in their share of work (despite being the only two receiving nearly $1k a month in salaries). The other players like Clide, SangHo, etc, all still kept practiced hard and even returned their salaries when their team were in trouble. I think Lee probably should have took the offer to negotiate with the players, but then again, he could still be a bit pissed at s2con's inaction over Puma's departure. It's just a very bad time for him and TSL. | ||
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b_unnies
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