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FluffyWolf2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
July 27 2011 18:36 GMT
#1
Was directed to you guys from the starcraft forums. Below is the message copied from there. Thanks in advance for any help.

--start copy--
Hello everyone. I'm not necessarily a top player, nor am I probably super exciting to watch , but my college is working on getting a CSL thing going which I'm excited about and told the guy in charge I'd go ahead and try to get streaming working, though I cannot participate being an alum, I still would like to watch them.

In my trials of getting Justin.tv to work though with my own little stream, I've run into it just stuttering along. Wanted to know if there was something I could adjust/fine tune that would better help the stream. (I'd prefer Justin.tv since that seems to be where a lot of SC2 is streamed, on Livestream I have no problem streaming).

I'm using: VHScrCap Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder 3.1

On VHScrCap I've tried both "Track Window" and "Track Screen." I can see the cursor in Track Screen within the game, and that is in. If I window mode (fullscreen) SC2 and do "Track Window" I'm able to see the game, at a terrible frame rate. The Settings are 30 Frame Rate and Specified output 720 x 480.

Within Flash Media I have the following settings: Format - VP6 Frames - 30.00 Input Size - 720 x 480 (Tried 1920 x 1080 as my screen resolution but it was not happy granted it's not happy at 720 x 480, or even lower) Maintain Aspect Ratio Bit Rate: 350 Kbps -- Output Size: 720 x 480 << Really guessing here.

I've taken Audio off until I can get a steady stream.

Are there settings I should tweak or adjust that I don't fully understand? A lot of tutorials and information do not go over the finer details.

Computer Specs: Windows 7 64-Bit (Aero Desktop Disabled to Basic) i5 2500k 3.3 GHz Asus 460GTX Fermi 8GB RAM 40GB Intel SSD (Where Starcraft is installed) 500GB 7,200 RPM WD Caviar Black

Sharing specs as I was told previous to building the computer these specs would be "plenty fine" to play and stream starcraft. I'm at this point hoping that is still the case.

Help is much appreciated, thank you!
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1048 Posts
July 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#2
This might have been better off going into the Tech Support forum since some might not stream or use that direct software.
Bratalix
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden34 Posts
July 27 2011 19:17 GMT
#3
Since no one said it yet, try Xsplit. Its better performance compared to Flash Medica Live Encoder. sure with your speccs it should work, but Xsplit is from my point of view better and easier to set up.
FluffyWolf2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
July 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#4
On July 28 2011 03:39 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
This might have been better off going into the Tech Support forum since some might not stream or use that direct software.


Ok Thanks I'll feed this over here if the comments I get here don't work out. Posted through my phone so wasn't sure where to go and probably should have looked a bit harder then the first thing on the drop downs.


Thanks ill give xsplit a try when I get home. I assume I can find the encoder by googling it.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 20:37:04
July 27 2011 20:35 GMT
#5
Xsplit is easier to set up, but the performance is no better (sometimes a tad worse) and fine-tuning is more difficult. It's a macintosh-like program for streaming.

1.) Your bitrate is too low. shoot for 750-1000kbps, as you want overhead (Streaming software is really bad at bursting data requirements over what is really necessary for short periods)

2.) try h.264. VP6 is notorious for being very, VERY tempermental, and you won't lose anything until you stream in 720 or 1080p

3.) Your computer MAY be too slow to handle SCII at the settings you use and streaming. Streaming is unbelievably processor intensive. I handle 1080p, but I'm on an i7 930 clocked upwards of 4.5ghz.

4.) switch the input to your native resolution. 1920x1080 is correct. You'd use a smaller input if you were streaming a segment of your monitor.

5.) after you start FME, open your task manager, and find "flashmedialiveencoder.exe" in your processes, right click it, mouse over "priority," and select high. This will allocate more processor resources to FME.

7.) if you're running multiple monitors, try disabling one while you stream. This will free up a buttload of resources for your stream.

6.) as a test, when you start streaming, open up the FME screen and see if the output preview is choppy. If it's choppy there, it'll be extremely choppy and laggy for your streamers (and it also means a performance problem with your computer)
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FluffyWolf2
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
July 28 2011 00:22 GMT
#6
Thanks Honeybadger, I'm trying everything and it's looking good in the Adobe Flash Media Encoder thing, Justin.tv just won't show it. If I go to my desktop it shows my desktop no problems, as soon as I open Starcraft 2 though the screen is just black.

In the VH Screen Capture Driver, should I be using under the "Capture" item:

Track Window
Track Screen
or Show frame

Just seems to not be getting from my computer to justin.tv when SC2 is open, I can stream anything else but when I open that.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
July 28 2011 04:50 GMT
#7
Black screen is what happens when you're playing full screen. You can't stream anything that's full screen, sadly (or I'd stream the shit out of diablo 2, lololol) it has to be run in a window. thankfully, all recent blizzard games allow borderless windowed mode.

Make sure in your graphics settings, it's windowed, with the full screen box checked.
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