Clide is the man... Now I understand Tastosis feelings for him.

This story is so sad. I am now rooting for TSL in the GSTL. Hopefully PuMa can do well too in EG so that he won't feel that he won't regret his decision.

Contagious

United States1319 Posts

July 22 2011 05:24 GMT

#183

Loved what he said about Clide and SangHo. Nice gesture that they put forward for their team.

Daniel C

Hong Kong1606 Posts

July 22 2011 05:25 GMT

#184

Go CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE, most awesome person in the universe.

BluePanther

United States2776 Posts

July 22 2011 05:26 GMT

#185

has it ever occured to people that despite the better players being in korea, there might actually be more of a "scene" over here?

the only tournament run by korea is GSL, and it's not a hit as far as i understand. i'm curious as to what the numbers are, but it's possible that the West has a larger scene...

damod

1106 Posts

July 22 2011 05:26 GMT

#186

On July 22 2011 14:22 Mioraka wrote:

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No, the original idiotic post did, and maybe u should read it before u reply and support it.

Maybe i should *reading original post* K i'm a retard -.-

theDragoon

Canada307 Posts

July 22 2011 05:27 GMT

#187

We need EG's side on this before you can post it.

acrequiem

United States15 Posts

July 22 2011 05:27 GMT

#188

On July 22 2011 14:17 Mazeltov wrote:
So hard to decide which team I dislike more EG or FXO. All the blatant player poaching and lackluster results is making it hard to pick a most hated.

ALso Rysecake is right the reason the Koreans are jumping ship is because the money is in the foreign tournaments that they KNOW they can dominate. No foreigners (aside from the ones that practice in Korea) will stand a chance against the Koreans that are going to be taking over the foreign tournaments.

Choya (coach/manager of fou) came to FXOboss and proposed the deal to merge the team. FXO didn't steal people. I think if FXO wanted to steal people they would have just chosen all the top players from every team instead of just merging with the entire team... just for your information

yoshi_yoshi

United States440 Posts

July 22 2011 05:27 GMT

#189

Oh, it's Coach Lee from Hyunjoon (sp?) becomes a progamer! Don't know why I didn't make that connection before.

Also, LOL at how they're wondering why Clide/Sangho and Puma (somewhat) have a large foreigner fanbase... it's all Artosis!

cronaldo5909

Korea (South)15 Posts

July 22 2011 05:29 GMT

#190

What Sangho and Clide did for the team would be a norm as a top player in a team would do when their team is going through a tough time in Korea. I feel great respect for them!

wish good luck for TSL in the future.

Chimpalimp

United States1135 Posts

July 22 2011 05:29 GMT

#191

People are taking this a bit too much to heart. Like it or not, pro sc2 is a business, and in business you have to go in the direction that you feel is best, which is what Puma did. However, I will say that it was kind of dumb of Coach Lee not to put them on contract.

dtz

5834 Posts

July 22 2011 05:30 GMT

#192

Artosis is right guys. Clide is the best player in the world. Manner wise and skill wise ( he has just been unlucky so far).

Actually it is funny how Clide has so many international fans just because of Artosis hype. Of course then he proceeded to justify it by intentionally not putting Huk and Jinro in the same group even if it means that he has to be in the same group as Nestea. Nestea over Huk guys. And Huk at that time was BAD for code S level. Not even close to his skill level now.

And then he proceeded to stay loyal and donated his salary back to his struggling team??? WHAT A BALLER.

Now that we know he is loyal. Please please MLG or DH or IEM please invite Clide ( and SangHo) to foreign tournaments. No risk of being poached so TSL should not worry. And hopefully he will know that the international scene appreciates a man with such characters.

kdmx

United States23 Posts

July 22 2011 05:32 GMT

#193

Good for Puma. The career of a progamer is short and volatile. You have to do what you need to do to take care yourself and your family. Loyalty is admirable but if it doesn't pay bills, what good is it?

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

July 22 2011 05:33 GMT

#194

I really do hope we see more leagues come up besides the GSL before GOMTV's 2 years are up. I know they'll have to prematurely reliquish their broadcasting exclusivity but it just doesn't help the korean scene to have only 1 league running. The players need other events and more games will mean more chance to get noticed by new fans and sponors.

I kinda suspected the korean scene wasn't going as well as it was hoped and you can tell how much the international fanbase matters more to GOM now with their partnership with MLG and hosting the October Code S Finals at Blizzcon. I guess they need to compensate for the continued lukewarm reception in korea. Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad they're expanding their horizons but now I'm fairly sure it's more out of necessity than anything else.

Anyways, best of luck to TSL and their players.

JinDesu

United States3990 Posts

July 22 2011 05:34 GMT

#195

On July 22 2011 14:27 acrequiem wrote:

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His er, dislike of FXO stems from the "lackluster results". Not the merging of FXO and Fou.

Looky

United States1608 Posts

July 22 2011 05:34 GMT

#196

there was a reason fruitdealer and tester left. why is everyone blaming eg on this one? maybe puma didnt want to be part of the team anymore ethier and eg saw an opportunity and ask him to join.

no contract seriously? thats probably the dumbest thing i heard from a professional team.

haka

United States1414 Posts

July 22 2011 05:37 GMT

#197

poor coach lee

IslandLife

21 Posts

July 22 2011 05:38 GMT

#198

Asian and Asian-American culture is very different than Western culture about 'honor and respect' in things like this.

I can give you plenty of real-life examples of Koreans renegging on contracts, going back on their word, siphoning money out of workers' pensions, tax evasion, etc. Comments like the above are ignorant. Public disgrace is taken rather seriously, but that doesn't matter if you don't get caught.

Puma had no contract so he was free to make his own decision. Did they even think to offer him one the minute he got off a plane after winning NASL??

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

July 22 2011 05:38 GMT

#199

Clide and SangHo are true gentlemen. Wish I could say the same about Puma but going to EG was his choice I suppose.

Milkis

5003 Posts

July 22 2011 05:40 GMT

#200

On July 22 2011 14:38 IslandLife wrote:

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E-Sports Business in korea is *quite* different from Actual business in Korea. ESports is branded in Korea as the passion and innocence of youth.

Real businesses in Korea work differently.