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Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
July 22 2011 05:22 GMT
#181
On July 22 2011 14:16 damod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 14:10 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 14:02 damod wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:53 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:49 felizuno wrote:
Mr. Lee is obviously mismanaging his business and the exodus of players is proof. Really don't care what he says, if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.

Mr. Lee = out, like in the Kenny Powers sense


The EG guys had 10 days to contact him, they chose not to.

Maybe he should keep his mouth shut until EG steals another one of his players next time.

God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this....

FFS puma said that he will tell TSL HIMSELF, if he didnt want to do it himslef obviously EG would have done it.

let me quote how i feel about reaplying your post: "God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this...."


if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.


So at the end EG didn't do anything wrong and Mr. Lee should just STFU?

R u seriously trying to counter my counter argument to the post I quoted, by arguing against the post I quoted?

Use ur logic much?

at the end EG didn't do anything wrong, and lee can say Whatever he wants.
i never sayed he should STFU, you did -.-


No, the original idiotic post did, and maybe u should read it before u reply and support it.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
July 22 2011 05:23 GMT
#182
Clide is the man... Now I understand Tastosis feelings for him.

This story is so sad. I am now rooting for TSL in the GSTL. Hopefully PuMa can do well too in EG so that he won't feel that he won't regret his decision.

ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
July 22 2011 05:24 GMT
#183
Loved what he said about Clide and SangHo. Nice gesture that they put forward for their team.
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
July 22 2011 05:25 GMT
#184
Go CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE, most awesome person in the universe.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 05:27:31
July 22 2011 05:26 GMT
#185
has it ever occured to people that despite the better players being in korea, there might actually be more of a "scene" over here?

the only tournament run by korea is GSL, and it's not a hit as far as i understand. i'm curious as to what the numbers are, but it's possible that the West has a larger scene...
damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
July 22 2011 05:26 GMT
#186
On July 22 2011 14:22 Mioraka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 14:16 damod wrote:
On July 22 2011 14:10 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 14:02 damod wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:53 Mioraka wrote:
On July 22 2011 13:49 felizuno wrote:
Mr. Lee is obviously mismanaging his business and the exodus of players is proof. Really don't care what he says, if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.

Mr. Lee = out, like in the Kenny Powers sense


The EG guys had 10 days to contact him, they chose not to.

Maybe he should keep his mouth shut until EG steals another one of his players next time.

God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this....

FFS puma said that he will tell TSL HIMSELF, if he didnt want to do it himslef obviously EG would have done it.

let me quote how i feel about reaplying your post: "God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this...."


if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him.


So at the end EG didn't do anything wrong and Mr. Lee should just STFU?

R u seriously trying to counter my counter argument to the post I quoted, by arguing against the post I quoted?

Use ur logic much?

at the end EG didn't do anything wrong, and lee can say Whatever he wants.
i never sayed he should STFU, you did -.-


No, the original idiotic post did, and maybe u should read it before u reply and support it.

Maybe i should *reading original post* K i'm a retard -.-
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
theDragoon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada307 Posts
July 22 2011 05:27 GMT
#187
We need EG's side on this before you can post it.
acrequiem
Profile Joined March 2011
United States15 Posts
July 22 2011 05:27 GMT
#188
On July 22 2011 14:17 Mazeltov wrote:
So hard to decide which team I dislike more EG or FXO. All the blatant player poaching and lackluster results is making it hard to pick a most hated.

ALso Rysecake is right the reason the Koreans are jumping ship is because the money is in the foreign tournaments that they KNOW they can dominate. No foreigners (aside from the ones that practice in Korea) will stand a chance against the Koreans that are going to be taking over the foreign tournaments.


Choya (coach/manager of fou) came to FXOboss and proposed the deal to merge the team. FXO didn't steal people. I think if FXO wanted to steal people they would have just chosen all the top players from every team instead of just merging with the entire team... just for your information
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
July 22 2011 05:27 GMT
#189
Oh, it's Coach Lee from Hyunjoon (sp?) becomes a progamer! Don't know why I didn't make that connection before.

Also, LOL at how they're wondering why Clide/Sangho and Puma (somewhat) have a large foreigner fanbase... it's all Artosis!
cronaldo5909
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)15 Posts
July 22 2011 05:29 GMT
#190
What Sangho and Clide did for the team would be a norm as a top player in a team would do when their team is going through a tough time in Korea. I feel great respect for them!

wish good luck for TSL in the future.
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
July 22 2011 05:29 GMT
#191
People are taking this a bit too much to heart. Like it or not, pro sc2 is a business, and in business you have to go in the direction that you feel is best, which is what Puma did. However, I will say that it was kind of dumb of Coach Lee not to put them on contract.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
July 22 2011 05:30 GMT
#192
Artosis is right guys. Clide is the best player in the world. Manner wise and skill wise ( he has just been unlucky so far).

Actually it is funny how Clide has so many international fans just because of Artosis hype. Of course then he proceeded to justify it by intentionally not putting Huk and Jinro in the same group even if it means that he has to be in the same group as Nestea. Nestea over Huk guys. And Huk at that time was BAD for code S level. Not even close to his skill level now.

And then he proceeded to stay loyal and donated his salary back to his struggling team??? WHAT A BALLER.

Now that we know he is loyal. Please please MLG or DH or IEM please invite Clide ( and SangHo) to foreign tournaments. No risk of being poached so TSL should not worry. And hopefully he will know that the international scene appreciates a man with such characters.
kdmx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
July 22 2011 05:32 GMT
#193
Good for Puma. The career of a progamer is short and volatile. You have to do what you need to do to take care yourself and your family. Loyalty is admirable but if it doesn't pay bills, what good is it?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 05:34:37
July 22 2011 05:33 GMT
#194
I really do hope we see more leagues come up besides the GSL before GOMTV's 2 years are up. I know they'll have to prematurely reliquish their broadcasting exclusivity but it just doesn't help the korean scene to have only 1 league running. The players need other events and more games will mean more chance to get noticed by new fans and sponors.

I kinda suspected the korean scene wasn't going as well as it was hoped and you can tell how much the international fanbase matters more to GOM now with their partnership with MLG and hosting the October Code S Finals at Blizzcon. I guess they need to compensate for the continued lukewarm reception in korea. Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad they're expanding their horizons but now I'm fairly sure it's more out of necessity than anything else.

Anyways, best of luck to TSL and their players.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
July 22 2011 05:34 GMT
#195
On July 22 2011 14:27 acrequiem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 14:17 Mazeltov wrote:
So hard to decide which team I dislike more EG or FXO. All the blatant player poaching and lackluster results is making it hard to pick a most hated.

ALso Rysecake is right the reason the Koreans are jumping ship is because the money is in the foreign tournaments that they KNOW they can dominate. No foreigners (aside from the ones that practice in Korea) will stand a chance against the Koreans that are going to be taking over the foreign tournaments.


Choya (coach/manager of fou) came to FXOboss and proposed the deal to merge the team. FXO didn't steal people. I think if FXO wanted to steal people they would have just chosen all the top players from every team instead of just merging with the entire team... just for your information


His er, dislike of FXO stems from the "lackluster results". Not the merging of FXO and Fou.
Yargh
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 05:35:34
July 22 2011 05:34 GMT
#196
there was a reason fruitdealer and tester left. why is everyone blaming eg on this one? maybe puma didnt want to be part of the team anymore ethier and eg saw an opportunity and ask him to join.

no contract seriously? thats probably the dumbest thing i heard from a professional team.
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
July 22 2011 05:37 GMT
#197
poor coach lee
IslandLife
Profile Joined March 2011
21 Posts
July 22 2011 05:38 GMT
#198
Asian and Asian-American culture is very different than Western culture about 'honor and respect' in things like this.


I can give you plenty of real-life examples of Koreans renegging on contracts, going back on their word, siphoning money out of workers' pensions, tax evasion, etc. Comments like the above are ignorant. Public disgrace is taken rather seriously, but that doesn't matter if you don't get caught.

Puma had no contract so he was free to make his own decision. Did they even think to offer him one the minute he got off a plane after winning NASL??
Yah mon!
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 22 2011 05:38 GMT
#199
Clide and SangHo are true gentlemen. Wish I could say the same about Puma but going to EG was his choice I suppose.
lalala
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 22 2011 05:40 GMT
#200
On July 22 2011 14:38 IslandLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
Asian and Asian-American culture is very different than Western culture about 'honor and respect' in things like this.


I can give you plenty of real-life examples of Koreans renegging on contracts, going back on their word, siphoning money out of workers' pensions, tax evasion, etc. Comments like the above are ignorant. Public disgrace is taken rather seriously, but that doesn't matter if you don't get caught.

Puma had no contract so he was free to make his own decision. Did they even think to offer him one the minute he got off a plane after winning NASL??


E-Sports Business in korea is *quite* different from Actual business in Korea. ESports is branded in Korea as the passion and innocence of youth.

Real businesses in Korea work differently.
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