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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:41 Jiddra wrote: Sounds like he isn't happy with the way GOM runs the GSL or how the SC2 license is used in Korea. Exclusive rights for SC2 in Korea for GOM certainly isn't helping scene. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:16 AlBundy wrote: So this is all because the Korean sc2 scene is not well established enough. Man, if sc2's popularity doesn't take off in Korea, I dont know what'll happen... If sc2 doesn't survive in korea then I fear for its international future. Al you know how this thing works in these here parts, when the new game comes out everyone flocks to it. Nature of the beast sadly. On July 22 2011 13:44 Kipsate wrote: Exclusive rights for SC2 in Korea for GOM certainly isn't helping scene. At least not there. It certainly is HELPING here lmao. | ||
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Ziggitz
United States340 Posts
On July 22 2011 12:44 Fionn wrote: People complained about the KESPA-way of doing things with iron clad contracts. They tried to be more relaxed/trusting in SC2, but it didn't work out and things are going to turn more into a KESPA situation in the future. Especially with teams like EG trying to poach top Korean players. Yeah a player wanted to switch teams and was uncomfortable about it and so was slow to talk to his coach about the fact that he was leaving his uncontracted position on the team. Tempers flared a little and TLers brewed up an entirely unnecessary shit storm for no fucking reason in minutes as usual. Let's fuck over all the players now, certainly it's the right course of action, no? | ||
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acidbean
Germany287 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:26 Duravi wrote: The only way to let EG know we don't like them is to take it out on their product: their players. It's not like they do anything big as a team effort The players are the most important part of the organization, you can't really support EG's players but not support EG. They don't care if you don't support the management as long as you support their players. True words. My point was that booing at MLG isn't the right way. I don't like it in the football stadium too. I'm sure, its a personal point of view, but I dont call that good sportsmanship. | ||
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
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EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
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felizuno
United States164 Posts
Mr. Lee = out, like in the Kenny Powers sense | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:30 TheButtonmen wrote: You're A) wrong and B) an ass. If you dislike how EG has handled this then A) contact their management, B) Vote with your feet (Don't watch events they run, don't watch their streams) and C) support the sponsors of the team(s) you do like rather then EG's when making purchases. Going to MLG and booing players is completely pointless, spiteful and incredibly rude. You can call them what you want, but showing displeasure with management by booing the team because they make bad decisions and show poor performance is actually very common in every sport. I'm a huge fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs and when I go to the games I'm used to watching my team get hounded. It doesn't matter who you are. The fan boys and bandwagoners are absolutely shameless. | ||
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Rococo
United States331 Posts
Very few professional Korean SC2 players currently “enjoy” playing Starcraft 2 due to the small fan base. This needs to be solved in order for Starcraft 2 to flourish as an e-sport. I feel like much of this burden is on Blizzard to make great expansions. Watching the OSL from time to time, I'm reminded why Korean audiences are content with the older game. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:44 Kipsate wrote: Exclusive rights for SC2 in Korea for GOM certainly isn't helping scene. TBH I don't see that as an excuse given they can just sublicense it from GOM like OGN has for WCG. I think it looms more on the fact that KeSPA vs Blizzard really kept fans away for far too long and it hasn't gotten good publicity/exposure. Hopefully that changes and fans tune into WCG giving OGN incentive to buy another license and try their hand. | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:49 felizuno wrote: Mr. Lee is obviously mismanaging his business and the exodus of players is proof. Really don't care what he says, if he had kept his mouth shut a few more days (at least waited until Puma SIGNED the EG contract) everything would have been fine AND EG.Alex would have had a chance to talk to him. Mr. Lee = out, like in the Kenny Powers sense The EG guys had 10 days to contact him, they chose not to. Maybe he should keep his mouth shut until EG steals another one of his players next time. God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this.... | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:51 StarStruck wrote: You can call them what you want, but showing displeasure with management by booing the team because they make bad decisions and show poor performance is actually very common in every sport. I'm a huge fan of the Toronto Maple Leafs and when I go to the games I'm used to watching my team get hounded. It doesn't matter who you are. The fan boys and bandwagoners are absolutely shameless. But what the hell did the players do? Kind weak logic. They are just playing, criticize and e-mail the management if your are so deeply affected, but the players don't deserve this childish crap. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:54 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: But what the hell did the players do? Kind weak logic. They are just playing, criticize and e-mail the management if your are so deeply affected, but the players don't deserve this childish crap. Sending emails to the management is completely worthless. If you want to go the email route you would be better off emailing the sponsors. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:35 lyAsakura wrote: Is that the same coach as the one in MBC? Huh. Yes. Same coach Lee. From "Hyung Joon becomes a progamer" (that's where I know him from). Overall: Emergency meeting from all SC2 Assosciation teams. Have every player sign a contract immeditately "If you dont sign you can find your own EG now!". Similiar to KPOP idols contracts who are bound for YEARS after a debut to the company. Or just ask Kespa for help  Korean teams saved. If that doesnt happen: Korean players take the top positions (and top salaries) in a team. Who do you think is getting payed more on EG? Puma or Machine/Incontrol & co? Foreign teams benefit greatly from acquiring those Koreans. The Korean players benefit (if they find a good practice environment). We fans benefit from it (since we can see more Koreans at international events) though some people like to have local champions / players. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
sigh, I don´t know why we got all the drama from this. To me it seemed like he was just venting on how crappy to him it was that EG approaches Puma knowing he was on a Team. Thanks for posting this. Edit: I also found it funny that foreign teams approached CLIIIIIIIIIDE. Oh Artosis | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:56 Duravi wrote: Sending emails to the management is completely worthless. If you want to go the email route you would be better off emailing the sponsors. Better then taking it out of people who are completely irrelevant to an issue. | ||
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[Atomic]Peace
United States451 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:41 Yew wrote: Clide and Sangho are very manner. Whoops, meant Clide and Sangho. | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
On July 22 2011 13:53 Mioraka wrote: The EG guys had 10 days to contact him, they chose not to. Maybe he should keep his mouth shut until EG steals another one of his players next time. God why am I replying to an idiotic post like this.... Puma wasn't under contract nor was he even getting a salary if I've read things correctly. At what point is he actually "his player" and at what point is he just a dude living in his house playing video games? Sounds like he was doing a poor job securing his team financially. I mean all the people in this thread upset at Puma, were you going to send him money every month 2 years from now when his SC2 skills have slipped and he is looking for a job? How much food does loyalty buy at the local Korean markets? I love how people will sit here and criticize but you know if they were in Puma position you'd take the deal just as he did. | ||
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