EPTBut I fail to see the point of approaching the management, when do you ever do that when your making an offer to someone working for another company?
Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 93
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
But I fail to see the point of approaching the management, when do you ever do that when your making an offer to someone working for another company? | ||
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DakkoNn
Australia11 Posts
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Jacko11
China146 Posts
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ComTrav
United States1093 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:42 Tachion wrote: as if code B was bad? Where do you think players like dongraegu are? The fact that so many great players (like DRG) are Code B sorta proves that the current system for entrance is flawed. It's SOOO HARD to get into Code A, and even in Code A you don't really get much of anything except for a shot at Code S. There's more money to be made in the foreign scene, rather from smaller tournaments or streaming or coaching or what-have-you. | ||
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DigitalisDestructi
United States488 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:40 wats0n wrote: That's speculation. Fact remains they have a contract and they can honor it. Puma didn't break the contract, TSL broke the contract because they're pissed he isn't re-signing. Sour grapes. So... his "I'm pretty sure they released him because he wanted to be released" is a speculation, but your "...that they would rather publicly embarrass him than let him play out his deal is low class..." is a fact? Not exactly a verified information, is it? | ||
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:37 seiferoth10 wrote: Oh thank god, someone with a brain. You are a rare breed. I wouldn't say that's a fair comparison. The relationship between a progamer and his coach is not the same relationship between a employee and a employer. The more fair comparison is the relationship between a celerity and his manager. And in celerity world if you take some celerity without talking to his manager, it's considered stealing, not legally, but ethically. Besides, progamer culture is different, they live in the same house as the coach, the team feeds them and takes care of them, when they go to foreign events the manager goes with them to take care of everything else other than gaming. And if some other guy approached player without contacting the coach/manager. That's pretty unethical. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:44 manicshock wrote: I swallow my own words. I thought he was going to leave it at that, and not bother finding the VOD. I was going to post it myself, but then you decided to be an asshole. User was warned for this post | ||
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Kairos~
Canada129 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:44 DakkoNn wrote: it will be hard to cheer for Puma with the EG tag infront of his name EG is my favorite foreigner team. x) I will find it pretty easy. edit: on an unrelated note.... I miss roooot ;-; | ||
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:43 Beyonder wrote: Well, most eg players arent that good :x understandable that they do this Considering DeMuslim god a wrist injury, Incontrol just quit NASL a few weeks back LZ switches to zerg and Machine really never practiced. When this EG house goes up and running EG will do work | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:45 zerglingsfolife wrote: I was going to post it myself, but then you decided to be an asshole. What I do best. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:33 Cuddle wrote: I don't understand how this is terrible by either Puma or EG. I have a job, I'm contracted and have a salary. I get job offers by other companies every now and then, I talk to them about what they offer and when I find something I prefer to my current work situation (be it better pay, better work environment or what have you) I go tell my current boss that I have gotten a better offer and I resign my position. According to basic Swedish employee law (which is in my contract) I have to stay on for 3 month after quitting (to give my employee a chance to find a replacement) BUT we can negotiate this time down to 0 days if both parts agree. It seems like this was exactly what happened in the Puma-EG case and I don't see anything wrong with it, at all. If TSL wanted to hold Puma to his contract, they could probably have and EG would have had to wait until it expired. They chose not to, in agreement with Puma. Case closed. Read this and stop bitchin y'all. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would make a big deal out of this at all. | ||
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qck
United Kingdom201 Posts
1841 replies (as I type this) to the original post. Really, TL? | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
I mean, I hate this move as much as the next person, but at least let's get something good out of it, right? =/ | ||
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Blitz Beat
United States178 Posts
Sort of makes me wish Kespa took the reigns on starcraft 2. | ||
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android_245
Australia103 Posts
This gives me the impression the salary EG is offering to Puma has a huge impact that caused him to make such a radically decision. This also gives me the impression Puma is more interested in money rather than improving (this is just my opinion). | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
People get job offers all the time without their bosses or coaches first getting to know about it. I dont understand the fuss. But unfortunately this is bad for Puma as a player. Look at his practice partners in EG compared to TSL. Besides Idra, which imo isnt at the level of many of the current GSL players, there is nobody nameworthy. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:41 brachester wrote:Coach lee respect his players wishes and let him go. Not before publicly crucifying him and making himself the victim. The only unprofessionalism that's been shown so far is that. Regardless of the details, if you respect a person, the public face of the end of your professional relationship should be amicable. | ||
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Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:44 Gamegene wrote: I doubt any team would want to keep a player who basically told them: "I'm leaving because they offered a briefcase of money. I don't respect the rest of my teammates or any of the bonds I share enough to actually tell you of their offer before I made the decision on my own." Yeah I can't believe a player of his caliber would want to travel to a place with more tournaments, more stability and more money. Hell, maybe as a child PuMa wanted to come to the United States and travel around. He just won a tournament and likes what EG has to offer, god forbid. | ||
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SourD
United States81 Posts
Playxp.com has posted article about this. altho it doesnt speak directly of this matter, they say that CURRENTLY NOBODY HAS CONTRACT BETWEEN TEAM AND PLAYERS. making a move like this possible. | ||
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DigitalisDestructi
United States488 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:39 Benjef wrote: In one sense this is hurting esports. Korean teams are going to be much more fearful of sending their aces abroad now if they're just going to get poached by foreign teams. Perhaps they will send even more Koreans abroad to take all the foreigners' money as a revenge!  | ||
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