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Nivity
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:37:16
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1161
This is sad.
I really feel for TSL to be honest.

What happend to contracts? ;O
Players swapping teams everyday it seems.

Fun for puma I guess even if he joined a way worse team, guess he gets to go to foreign tournaments more.


Edit: Korean teams will soon stop sending players to foreign tournaments, sc2 goes divided like sc1.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:35:30
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1162
The coach must feel betrayed hardcore, puma just lost my respect if the coach tells the truth.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1163
Just realized, the EG team house (which isn't a rumor, btw, it's very confirmed) is going for the "full Korean experience", right down to importing Koreans.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1164
On July 21 2011 16:34 Midgetman101 wrote:
Clide tweeted about this

All he tweeted was "..." lol
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:35:45
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1165
Quite a bummer for TSL considering they have lost quite a few players recently. This acquisition is a great bolster for the EG roster.

I am curious to know where Puma will train though. Does this mean that he will be coming over to train at the EG house or will he remain in Korea? If he is staying in Korea I think that's a little unfortunate considering he will no longer have a "team" house to practice at.
Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1166
Really curious why everyone is ditching TSL. I can imagine the TSL managers/coaches are unhappy with EG bypassing them and going straight to the players but there's got to be a pretty good reason behind everyone jumping ship.
Hopefully EG will fit Puma's needs.
R.I.P. Nujabes ♫
sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1167
Lol foreign team leagues are going to look so funny if they adopt winner's league format. Matches will pretty much be decided by token korean vs token korean. Guess EG will be on top for a while.
I could spend a while with that smile
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1168
On July 21 2011 16:35 Averious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:30 IceSlipper wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:28 Mycl wrote:
From SirScoots via twitter

"I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls eyes"

Such a stupid response from scoots.. Really? We are only going off what we have, what more facts can we check?


I wasn't aware you were a journalist. What publication do you represent?


What publication was he angry over?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Fianchetto
Profile Joined September 2010
United States157 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1169
On July 21 2011 16:33 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:32 namste wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:25 trikshun wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:22 Ajnin wrote:
Team is doing poorly?
Bribe NASL winner korean terran with paycheck.
Hope to win.


+ Show Spoiler +
EG

idrA player placing 4th behind 3 Koreans. Representing North America at Gamescon. Yeah EG is doing bad


Yeah EG is doing bad, idra isn't. One player doesn't make a team!


Funny you say that on this site.....

What teams are doing "good" then?

mouz and dignitas both have amazing lineups
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1170
On July 21 2011 16:33 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:32 namste wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:25 trikshun wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:22 Ajnin wrote:
Team is doing poorly?
Bribe NASL winner korean terran with paycheck.
Hope to win.


+ Show Spoiler +
EG

idrA player placing 4th behind 3 Koreans. Representing North America at Gamescon. Yeah EG is doing bad


Yeah EG is doing bad, idra isn't. One player doesn't make a team!


Funny you say that on this site.....

What teams are doing "good" then?


From what I've gathered from a few posts in this thread a team can only be classed as going well if they're consistently winning the biggest tournaments and have several players at their peak. So to answer your question, every team is garbage.
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1171
On July 21 2011 16:34 IceSlipper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:32 taLbuk wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:30 IceSlipper wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:28 Mycl wrote:
From SirScoots via twitter

"I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls eyes"

Such a stupid response from scoots.. Really? We are only going off what we have, what more facts can we check? lmfao.. how about you give us some instead of sitting on your high-horse and thinking of anyway you can justify this horrible display of ethics and lack of respect..

No response at all would be much more professional than this trash..


you can wait to make an irrational emotion fueled post until we have more facts.

or you can spew your nonsense like you just did.

How long are we suppose to wait? We have plenty of facts right here (Puma on TSL -> Puma NASL -> Puma released -> Puma EG), and you want us to just sit here while scoots/EG make up a nice little fairytale? He just took a jab at the whole community, without clarifying anything at all..


God forbid we wait more than an hour and a half (with the story breaking at 11:00PM PDT) for the other half of the story, WE HAVE FACTS!!!!
sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
July 21 2011 07:35 GMT
#1172
On July 21 2011 16:01 zere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:54 emythrel wrote:
In football they do it thru agents and the teams often are the last people to know that a player has been approached.


On the contrary; teams must give their ok for an approaching team to be allowed to even talk to the player, before -anything- else.

There are so many wrong comparisons to other sports in this thread, it's unbelivable. Stop it.

Related to the topic: Well, we all know that EG is the BM team #1 in SC2, but I am really, really disappointed in Puma. Hope he meets DRG in the next Code A qualifier.


EL OH EL "we all know that EG is the BM team #1 in SC2" hahahaha, won't agree or disagree with you as it seems to be a solid argument all of us should just accept, but I'm pretty sure at least Sirscoots would have a word or two about that lol


Well, I'm getting tired of watching lots of kids just hate or even dare to give any judgement without even waiting for EG's official statement about this. And also I'm getting kinda sick about the Chelsea or Yankees shit, cut it off guys and grow tf up! ProGamers can't just make a living of good wishes and love!


Related to the topic: Hope Puma meets DRG and beats him, or even better (cuz I love ESports) would like to have Both of them hwaiting in Code S !!
"only the need for meaning changes how you feel about what you see" "he who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" "being a Rebel is as stupid as to be completely Obedient"
Shooks
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia256 Posts
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1173
Lost all respect for EG, so disrespectful to just steal TSL's best player like that.
UnceL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland73 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:42:21
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1174
On July 21 2011 16:27 jellyjello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:18 freeloader625 wrote:
On July 21 2011 15:00 Milkis wrote:
"There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this"

Puma had left the TSL house as of the 20th.


What? Are you serious? Does no one see this but me?

There has always been "a system to stop foreign teams from stealing players," its called "paying them." Puma wouldn't have made such a drastic change for nickles and dimes, EG obviously offered a substantial amount over whatever TSL gave him, if anything. I hope this opens up Korean teams eyes and force them to treat their players better.



LOL how naive. This is a matter of ethics. You guys talk about how this is business works, but let me tell you; business without proper ethics doesn't survive long (proof is out there). Business is all about building good relationships with potential partners / customers. And that's why you have to have good ethical understanding in order to grow your business. One of the top agenda for almost all good businesses is providing continous training in ethics to all of their employees, period. It's THAT important.

EG's move could have been very legal, but it was totally wrong in ethical standpoint. That's why many on here are pissed.


Well said. Very true! However, because the sc2 scene is relatively new, lots of work needs to be done before we reach a place where rules and ethics are firmly established.
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1175
On July 21 2011 16:34 IceSlipper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:32 taLbuk wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:30 IceSlipper wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:28 Mycl wrote:
From SirScoots via twitter

"I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls eyes"

Such a stupid response from scoots.. Really? We are only going off what we have, what more facts can we check? lmfao.. how about you give us some instead of sitting on your high-horse and thinking of anyway you can justify this horrible display of ethics and lack of respect..

No response at all would be much more professional than this trash..


you can wait to make an irrational emotion fueled post until we have more facts.

or you can spew your nonsense like you just did.

How long are we suppose to wait? We have plenty of facts right here (Puma on TSL -> Puma NASL -> Puma EG -> Puma released from TSL ), and you want us to just sit here while scoots/EG make up a nice little fairytale? He just took a jab at the whole community, without clarifying anything at all..


fix'd it for u
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15531 Posts
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1176
On July 21 2011 16:35 Majynx wrote:
Quite a bummer for TSL considering they have lost quite a few players recently. This acquisition is a great bolster for the EG roster.

I am curious to know where Puma will train though. Does this mean that he will be coming over to train at the EG house or will he remain in Korea? If he is staying in Korea I think that's a little unfortunate considering he will no longer have a "team" house to practice at.


He's better off living alone in Korea than using the EG team house. A few dudes who don't take the game nearly as seriously as him, who are worse than who he'd face on ladder...Not a good deal for him.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1177
On July 21 2011 16:35 Majynx wrote:
Quite a bummer for TSL considering they have lost quite a few players recently. This acquisition is a great bolster for the EG roster.

I am curious to know where Puma will train though. Does this mean that he will be coming over to train at the EG house or will he remain in Korea? If he is staying in Korea I think that's a little unfortunate considering he will no longer have a "team" house to practice at.


Korean ladder is probably better than the bums staying at the EG house lol
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1178
Puma + Idra on same team :OOOOOOO

Sad to see TSL fall apart like this
"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1179
Holy shit, nearly 60 pages of posts in just over an hour and a half. (Contrast this with the thread for STX putting up their entire team for trading getting less than 30 pages over more than a day.)
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
July 21 2011 07:36 GMT
#1180
On July 21 2011 16:35 Fianchetto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:33 TheButtonmen wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:32 namste wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:25 trikshun wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:22 Ajnin wrote:
Team is doing poorly?
Bribe NASL winner korean terran with paycheck.
Hope to win.


+ Show Spoiler +
EG

idrA player placing 4th behind 3 Koreans. Representing North America at Gamescon. Yeah EG is doing bad


Yeah EG is doing bad, idra isn't. One player doesn't make a team!


Funny you say that on this site.....

What teams are doing "good" then?

mouz and dignitas both have amazing lineups


Millenium has quite the lineup too
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
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