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Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 49

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Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#961
On July 21 2011 15:42 nforce wrote:
Looking forward to seeing Demuslim's TvT in 4-5 months as well as idra's ZvT. This is good news, imo. yeah, it was a bit of a dick move from EG but hey - these are things that happen in real sports as well (although no one will let you out of your contract like that). Maybe EG should have paid TSL some cash and make it an official, real transfer?
If they are willing to let him go like that, I'm sure they wouldn't have opposed a "real" player transfer like that.

LOL dont count on it. PuMas skill will turn to shit in a few months time. And overall, I can see this hurting the Korean-Foreigner relationship in the future.
~Terran For Life~
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#962
On July 21 2011 16:14 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:11 Ezze wrote:
EG will solidify its reputation as a joke team.


I wasn't aware of this reputation.

Says who?



EG only has one player that has been able to produce any sort of results whatsoever. If we start listing the best foreign teams EG comes maybe 7th or 8th. They really should get rid of the jobbers, likes of Lg and Machine who aren't able to win any tournaments at all or even reach any high placements.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#963
On July 21 2011 16:16 lunchforthesky wrote:
This is why we have KESPA. So people can't act this way.

And so progammers can get underpayed and overworked! YEA!
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#964
On July 21 2011 16:10 Slipspace wrote:
LOL..you guys getting upset over this and mad at EG are so silly. You realize this happens all the time right? Minigun, Cruncher, Grubby (during wc3), and an endless stream of other players have left their team for another in the past. What makes this case special? Because he's Korean? It's a brilliant move by EG. Puma will actually get a respectable salary now and be able to fly around the world playing video games and having a good time.

If anything, this is an indication that Starcraft 2 is going to be the biggest e-sport to date.

As far disrespecting TSL, I think it's a bit disrespectful to the other players of TSL for the managers to be so worried and angry about losing one player.


Grubby? You know Grubby (out of pure loyalty) stuck with a team who failed to give him any money whatsoever for MONTHS even though he was on a salary?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#965
On July 21 2011 16:09 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:08 yeint wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:06 DystopiaX wrote:without really asking for a contract release


How do you ask for a contract release when there is no contract? Why did you conveniently skip over that part of the PlayXP reporting?

Dude the post from TL even said it was PlayXP COMMENTING, not reporting. IE random people equivalent to you or me p[osting what they "heard".


So you saying he's under contract is somehow more believable?
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#966
Such sad news for TSL...so many of their star players have left now >_<
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#967
InControl will now spend hours across variosu shows attempting to justify this.
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
July 21 2011 07:17 GMT
#968
"not surprising since it's Idra's team"

I want to say it's BM but considering the team name 'Evil Geniuses' ... they were actually right
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#969
On July 21 2011 16:16 Shinrae wrote:
EG are the badguy team that make the American SC2 scene so good.
Just look at them in their dark shirts, their anger, hate and bm so well known.
All they need to complete this is a leaked photo of scoots in some dark robes feasting on a newborn whilst screaming for his minions to bring him the head of TLO.

Then we have TL. They're like the 'good' human guys in the story.
Much power, but under an oppressive ruler who silences anyone who dares mention the rise of the dark team. They will continue to play as normal, acting as if all is well in world of esports until it is too late.
Not until Incontrol destroys Huk on their hometurf will they realise that war is upon them.

I don't really follow the team drama's enough to work out the rest. But somehow mousesports, sixjax and all the others will have to band together, making an alliance with the Korean teams to slay EG.
All with CombatEx following behind mumbling to himself.


This post is awsome and made me laugh out loud and its pushing 3:30am here haha, thanks for some enlightenment in this heavy thread
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#970
On July 21 2011 16:15 monx wrote:
EG is ruining Esports.


Not this fucking moniker again.
The universe created an audience for itself.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#971
LOL TSL dis?

User was warned for this post
reg0ner
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#972
I feel so bad for the moderator that needs to go through all these dumb comments.

Good pick up for EG! EG FIGHTING!
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#973
Oh... My... God....

EG finally has a decent Terran player lol
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#974
On July 21 2011 16:16 Shinrae wrote:
EG are the badguy team that make the American SC2 scene so good.
Just look at them in their dark shirts, their anger, hate and bm so well known.
All they need to complete this is a leaked photo of scoots in some dark robes feasting on a newborn whilst screaming for his minions to bring him the head of TLO.

Then we have TL. They're like the 'good' human guys in the story.
Much power, but under an oppressive ruler who silences anyone who dares mention the rise of the dark team. They will continue to play as normal, acting as if all is well in world of esports until it is too late.
Not until Incontrol destroys Huk on their hometurf will they realise that war is upon them.

I don't really follow the team drama's enough to work out the rest. But somehow mousesports, sixjax and all the others will have to band together, making an alliance with the Korean teams to slay EG.
All with CombatEx following behind mumbling to himself.


don't forget r/starcraft, the villagers who can't afford tickets to the main event so they force Destiny and Day9 memes everyday.
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#975
It's okay. They recruited gsl season 1 champion fruitdealer and recent r08 trickster right?
Turn it Up
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:19:04
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#976

You seem to be the one who doesn't get the business world...Puma was under a contract, EG contacted him and asked him to break contract, he did not discuss his potential move with his management at all until he told them basically that he was leaving.

Or do you think that people are allowed to break contracts in the business world? lol


PlayXP says he wasn't under a contract
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
freeloader625
Profile Joined May 2010
United States180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:19:17
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#977
On July 21 2011 15:00 Milkis wrote:
"There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this"

Puma had left the TSL house as of the 20th.


What? Are you serious? Does no one see this but me?

There has always been "a system to stop foreign teams from stealing players," its called "paying them." Puma wouldn't have made such a drastic change for nickles and dimes, EG obviously offered a substantial amount over whatever TSL gave him, if anything. I hope this opens up Korean teams eyes and force them to treat their players better.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#978
To people defending EG/Puma here:

How exactly are you thinking Puma is going to continue to grow at a rate that can keep up with other Koreans? Not a single person on EG is capable of providing Puma the type of practice he used to get where he is, and no longer being a part of a team house is going to destroy his practice habits. EG is either going to be recruiting other Koreans to form a practice house of their own, or they have no idea how the SC2 scene works right now.
Arcticc
Profile Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#979
On July 21 2011 16:13 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:13 mdma-_- wrote:
how is this even controversial?
EG offered Puma a contract and he accepted
i dont rly see the problem :S

Some people don't understand the business world and want to pretend teams are like 3rd grade best friend circles.


Just because it's allowed in business does not make it respectable and an element that spectators want to see in e-sports.

For instance, a company doesn't have to recycle. They're saving money by not doing so, but it's respectable for them to do it.

Grabbing a player from a small business' team without any negotiation or forewarning is not something I personally see as a great thing for e-sports. E-sports is growing and it is possible for it to grow in the wrong direction with greed. It's the community's responsibility to keep "business" actions like these in check.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 21 2011 07:18 GMT
#980
On July 21 2011 16:17 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:16 lunchforthesky wrote:
This is why we have KESPA. So people can't act this way.

And so progammers can get underpayed and overworked! YEA!


Feel free to continue ignoring all the good KESPA does and just focus on the bad.
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