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Sukari
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia183 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#801
Sneaky.. I feel a little sad inside.

I'll feel even sadder if his career goes downhill now.
ezpzlmnsqzy | SlayerS hwaiting~!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#802
On July 21 2011 16:03 forgottendreams wrote:
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On July 21 2011 15:59 Talin wrote:
Meh.

If it was any other team, I might have been shocked. Typical EG though.


I guess you haven't heard of SK, fnatic and mYm....

Acting like this is a new thing in esports is just naive.

He didn't say that this was new, and just because this has happened in the past doesn't make it ok now.
SwirlQ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States148 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#803
EG = zero respect ( atleast talk to TSL before u player snipe... )
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#804
On July 21 2011 16:04 oBlade wrote:
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On July 21 2011 15:56 bounca wrote:
--waits for tyler to make a comment--

What's the significance of this? What am I missing with respect to Tyler - how does he fit into this?


tyler usually makes level headed posts that offer some insight. but i doubt he will form a post without more informantion, there simply is only one side of the story at the moment.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#805
On July 21 2011 16:01 zere wrote:
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On July 21 2011 15:54 emythrel wrote:
In football they do it thru agents and the teams often are the last people to know that a player has been approached.


On the contrary; teams must give their ok for an approaching team to be allowed to even talk to the player, before -anything- else.

There are so many wrong comparisons to other sports in this thread, it's unbelivable. Stop it.

Related to the topic: Well, we all know that EG is the BM team #1 in SC2, but I am really, really disappointed in Puma. Hope he meets DRG in the next Code A qualifier.

Yes, please stop comparing it to sports. There is no governing body of sc2 like there is in sports so you can't compare the two.
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A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#806
On July 21 2011 16:04 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:56 bounca wrote:
--waits for tyler to make a comment--

What's the significance of this? What am I missing with respect to Tyler - how does he fit into this?

him and EG have been know to disagree in the past.
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#807
On July 21 2011 16:03 SourD wrote:
been lurking at playxp.com for koreans reaction to this (im korean born and raised)

people are saying Puma just let the coach know that he is leaving for EG and just packed his things and left on the 20th without any discussion of this matter.

also, it seems like there was no written contract signed with TSL.

with that, of course the coach had no choice but to announce his release.

this was from just a forum so take it for what it is.



Well there you go. If that's true than TSL made it easy for him to leave whenever he chose.
There's no S in KT. :P
Fianchetto
Profile Joined September 2010
United States157 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#808
On July 21 2011 16:00 Dingobloo wrote:
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On July 21 2011 15:54 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 21 2011 15:51 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Well EG is rumored to be building a team house so if they get their stuff together and start really pushing it, they could be quite formidable. Also, If puma stays in Korea, I think playing alone would be pretty bad for his skills, I would think he would have to travel to EG's house. no? If thats the case, who will translate? or can he speak english? Idra The Translator? For a Terran?


I didnt even think of that.

Can anyone on EG speak korean? Maybe idra a little?

At least FXO had guys that spoke korean BEFORE getting koreans (oz)


... So who did they have that spoke korean before Oz?

Moonan does, and either slog/optik (or maybe both?) also do
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#809
On July 21 2011 16:04 Corrosive wrote:
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On July 21 2011 16:03 SourD wrote:
been lurking at playxp.com for koreans reaction to this (im korean born and raised)

people are saying Puma just let the coach know that he is leaving for EG and just packed his things and left on the 20th without any discussion of this matter.

also, it seems like there was no written contract signed with TSL.

with that, of course the coach had no choice but to announce his release.

this was from just a forum so take it for what it is.




if this is true then there is nothing wrong with anything that has happened.


Koreans are very pick about respect though. (First hand experience).

Still, what's done is done.
Dear Sixsmith...
Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland312 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#810
To quote MC: "Fucking BM in Korea." lol
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
July 21 2011 07:05 GMT
#811
On July 21 2011 16:03 SourD wrote:
been lurking at playxp.com for koreans reaction to this (im korean born and raised)

people are saying Puma just let the coach know that he is leaving for EG and just packed his things and left on the 20th without any discussion of this matter.

also, it seems like there was no written contract signed with TSL.

with that, of course the coach had no choice but to announce his release.

this was from just a forum so take it for what it is.



No written contract then all is forgiven for EG I feel. They just offered a player a real contract....kind of like Arsenal sniping Fabregas from Barcalona's youth team....

Good work EG If this of course is true :D
Grr Arr Rawr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#812
Korean players have already started to leave for foreign teams - Puma isn't the first. While it seems there is more money to be made overseas for Korean players in SC2, it's not the only incentive for them. Every Korean player I've seen interviewed after a foreign tournament has talked about how blown away they were by the fans and their support/cheers. Given those two things (more money + more fans), it's not surprising at all that many players would love the chance to compete more outside of Korea.
You can't rhyme against the dark side of the Force, why even bother? So many dudes been with your mom, who even KNOWS if I'm your father!
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#813
I've got a feeling that more than coaches and managers that are unhappy with this.

DongRaeGu will go to MLG Anaheim... My bet is that the MVP coach/manager is kind of nervous right now.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
Rebel_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada94 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#814
umm wow that is something... never seen that coming from a mile away... first FXO got fOu to join them, now Puma is going to EG... damn, what is going on in korea ? Foreigners are taking over....
“Give the guy a gun he's superman, give him two and he’s God.” - Hard Boiled
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:07:19
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#815
On July 21 2011 16:01 TBO wrote:
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On July 21 2011 15:55 SmOkeYNaGaTa wrote:
"There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this"


If teams wish to keep their players, then write a contract. The player gets room, board, a modest salary possibly in exchange for 6 months to a year of loyalty.


Problem with this is that a contract won't help if your player wants to leave. Sure you can keep him and keep paying his salary but he won't perform to his normal level. That's also probably the reason TSL straight out decided to release him from his contract.

Nonononono
Nonono
Let me fill you in on Koreans.

Koreans have a level of kinship deeper than westerners. If you get together as a team, you will become very close. The coach is a father figure and he wanted what would make Puma happy. If Puma wanted to go and join another team then the coach would let him.

This doesn't change the fact that EG is a complete joke of a team who didn't respect TSL as a team, didn't respect SC2 as a sport, didn't respect the Korean culture and they certainly don't respect Puma.

The worst part is Puma had such a bright future ahead of him too.

lol my korean genes are kicking in for the whole respect thing ==;;
lalala
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#816
i dont understand why everybody is acting as if EG did something terribly wrong...
they want a player; they ask him to join; he accepts
if puma did not have any contract with TSL there is absolutely nothing wrong with it
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#817
On July 21 2011 16:04 IceSlipper wrote:
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On July 21 2011 16:01 Corrosive wrote:
I dont understand what the big deal is since TSL LET PUMA OUT OF HIS CONTRACT

Like they had a choice? Why would they keep someone who no longer has any interest at all in staying on the team?
Have a think before you post such nonsense.. You think TSL just let puma out of his contract for no reason and EG signed him before any other team? Thats obviously not what took place.. EG clearly poached puma, then when TSL found out they had no choice but to let their player go..

And based on what PlayXP people are saying, it was more like Puma told the coaches he was leaving, packed his bags, and left, without really asking for a contract release or discussing his potential move with them at all. It's a question of professionalism and contractual obligations but it's also one of respect, and EG doing this make foreign teams look bad/shady IMO.
Creighton
Profile Joined October 2010
United States35 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#818
A nice steal by Team EG.
Show me the meaning of being lonely.
NDsOdapOp
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom60 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#819
lol people are taking this way out of proportion.... EG just did business with Puma in a normal fashion they approached him to see if he was interested, and he was, so Puma then went to talk to his coaches about it.... what difference would it have made if EG had gone to the coaches first... its Puma's decision in the end.
imba, imba world
HoodedAvatar
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada115 Posts
July 21 2011 07:06 GMT
#820
EG just lathered up their squad with some epic sauce! Go Puma!
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