EPTAugust is going to be really interesting.
Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 35
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
August is going to be really interesting. | ||
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Irave
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j3i
United States357 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:35 Grantiere wrote: Except Puma won a championship before he left. LOL OH SNAP On topic: looks like Puma is shortsighted. Everything he gained is temporary. Puma got a better contract, but lost a team-house practice environment. If he doesn't find a quality practice environment, he won't be worth another contract. Also, he showed that he lacked loyalty which may come into play if another team considers picking him up. (I know a bunch of ppl will say loyalty doesn't mean shit but it does) | ||
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00Visor
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On July 21 2011 15:39 havox_ wrote: Still dont get the EG haters... Seriously, inalmost every sport its like this: Team talks to player -> player talks to his own team -> teams agree on transfer fee -> player changes teams - usually we just dont hear about the "team approches player" state, cuz nobody cares/its normal. You are wrong here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampering_(sport) And rules/ethics in Korea might be even different and should be respected as well. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:50 EchoZ wrote: Like I have said, the players don't have agents yet. The next closest thing to an Agent would be a Manager. No it wouldn't. Managers in sc2 work just like managers in other sports. An agent strictly works on deals for his player and talks to teams about getting his player signed and will come in and mediate between managers if a trade is on the horizon (not usually though, its more like when a team wants to trade a player or the player wants to be traded and the agent has the go ahead to look for a trade). The players in sc2 are their own agents. Managers are nothing like agents. Even in acquiring players from other teams, they are still like a sports manager making trades. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
They gonna send Alex Conroy to explain everything like always like a politician just to explain the situation. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Mayor
United States472 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:53 mango_destroyer wrote: Lol Define top rated BW player. I don`t think he was. He was credited for being a smart and wonderful player by many people, for instance Artosis and idrA, but had stage problems. | ||
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imPERSONater
United States1324 Posts
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Jayrod
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On July 21 2011 15:50 oBlade wrote: Players' rights above all. It doesn't matter whether it was a foreign team or Korean team. Puma is where he prefers to be. Being a better coach or being closer to your players and doing better to give them what they need is a good way to stop your players from getting stolen. I suggest TSL coach do that if he likes, but not try to put blame elsewhere. Your post is indicative as to why modern sports are so terrible. For the last ten years or so all you hear about is someone's contract or who has the option and then when the player doesnt get what they want they dont play... they hold out and fuck everyone else over. Its pretty sad to see the prima donna attitude show up in SC2 before it even sprouts wings. | ||
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seiferoth10
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ehalf
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SmokeyNagata
United States111 Posts
"There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this" If teams wish to keep their players, then write a contract. The player gets room, board, a modest salary possibly in exchange for 6 months to a year of loyalty. | ||
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Halcyondaze
United States509 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:51 forgottendreams wrote: Actually there are contracts in esports "moron", TSL granted puma's wish to leave. They could have kept him since he was still under contract. Not the contract that you are alluding to. The way in which you addressed this was as if it was a binding contract. The only contract they have is that they pay them, the player can do whatever he wants, leave the team whenever he wants. Its free roam | ||
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bluestuff
Canada893 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:52 Serpico wrote: Define "quite well", because I guarantee you the players will always go for more. Quite well becomes "not enough" pretty quickly when someone else with more money comes knocking. 30k for FD, 27k for Tester, and since he's better than both I'm assuming comparable money, and certainly more than EG can afford. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:52 zoLo wrote: NO. Why do people think that if you do not have a team, you will be a shitty player? He probably has a good list of people that are good. Do you guys not remember all the interviews of the Korean players who give credit to players for helping them practice? Most of the time they mention players OUTSIDE their team. Yeah, but I was thinking that based off the sort of culture you see from the SlayerSJessica thing, this could impact him socially over there. I don't know what other players think of this but at least the fans are going to give him crap. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Some people don't understand how business works or are personally against players making decisions for themselves. If PuMa was offered more money and TSL couldn't pay it, why shouldn't he be allowed to move? | ||
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Serpico
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On July 21 2011 15:54 j3i wrote: LOL OH SNAP On topic: looks like Puma is shortsighted. Everything he gained is temporary. Puma got a better contract, but lost a team-house practice environment. If he doesn't find a quality practice environment, he won't be worth another contract. Also, he showed that he lacked loyalty which may come into play if another team considers picking him up. (I know a bunch of ppl will say loyalty doesn't mean shit but it does) Not really, depends on how many teams have the resources to support a player like EG. | ||
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