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On July 21 2011 15:44 Shewklad wrote: Ahh... Good old United States of America. It's all about the $$$ - Too bad you're soon out of $.
Low blow. Just for that, we wont be buying any more swedish fish OR meatballs. How do you like them apples?
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Dislike - Bypassing the coach is something really bad. Like for professional sports players, I think that this is unacceptable. There should be some kind of rule, that this should be forbidden. I mean if the player wants to leave, its OK, but first and most importantly it should be contacting the current team coach/manager and discussing it with them. EG just lost my respect for that team, sorry
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this is beautiful, foreigner scene taking over. Better die fast BW or all the talent will go west.
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wow wtf...
great pick up EG but wth TSL
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On July 21 2011 15:36 last light wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:35 JoeAWESOME wrote: I'm calling it now!
SixjaxCLIDE!
What I'm most concerned about is the relasionship between Korea and "the foreigners".... Why do people randomly take players and stick team tags infront of them? Like some dude said "LiquidDRG" a few pages ago. Is this supposed to be clever or something? Get real. The joke is that Artosis is the manager of Sixjax, and, you know...Clide.
Artosis. Clide.
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On July 21 2011 15:46 Shewklad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:43 Serpico wrote:On July 21 2011 15:41 Shewklad wrote:On July 21 2011 15:35 babylon wrote: What the fuck is going on?
Fucking hell. Firstly, this is horrible press for foreign teams. Absolutely shitty. Secondly, going behind management? Dodgy at best. Thirdly, Puma, I know money is great, but you just got 50k USD, and at the very least you could, y'know, wait until your contract expired?
Goddammit, what the hell is wrong with having a little professionalism in SC2? Everything this man just wrote. EG must be one of the most unprofessional teams there is. And I'm pretty sure that Puma will get bored when Incontrol, Idra and machine are "hitting the gym" - While Puma acctualy wants to improve in sc2. Yes, because SC 2 players literally practice so much they can't do anything ever not involved with SC 2. If you used your brain you would understand that what I ment is that Puma is used to practice SO much more then the rest of those guys, and I don't think it will be fitting at all for Puma. Unless Puma played broodwar (I've no idea) as a pro in Korea I'd assume he's never practiced as much as Idra consistently in the same atmosphere. No need to use insults so aggressively kiddo.
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On July 21 2011 15:24 Horse...falcon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:21 UniversalMind wrote: To bad SC2 dont have drafts and trades and stuff like basketball and football
its kinda lame to give birth to a player and watch him get stolen but meh w/e Imagine this as the Lebron James to Miami deal or Carlos Boozer to Utah or Pau Gasol to LA
Too bad that is way off.. Puma was not a 'Free Agent', and Lebron James was a sign n trade.. Cleveland still got something (obviously not enough) for him, rather than TSL just getting a slap in the face..
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On July 21 2011 15:44 Shewklad wrote: Ahh... Good old United States of America. It's all about the $$$ - Too bad you're soon out of $.
Is that a play on words because of the financial crisis or just saying Puma will win most NA tourny's? Sounds like an odd statement either way since nobody knows if he's going to even move into the EG house or anything like that and in any case Koreans are all playing foreign tournaments regardless so even on that front you make no sense lol. On topic though interesting stuff going on, who knows if it was just about money or because the guy wants to travel the globe a bit more than he thought TSL would help him. Sounds like a good thing for everyone but the TSL guys imo, more drama for us around here though which I can't say I totally like lol. GL to the guy though, he's a great player.
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On July 21 2011 15:45 Alexian wrote: Why does everyone keep saying his skills will deteriorate? TSL is one of the worst teams right now (Except for Sang ho). Demuslim and IdrA are at least as good as TSL members. If he can get that good on a team like that, he probably will be fine on any team.
What? TSL is 2-0 in the GSTL. Alive has vastly improved, Clide continues to be solid, Killer is always good, and they have some good people coming up the ranks. They're a better team than EG, and I know that's my opinion and all, but I feel solidly that TSL is a much better team all-around than EG. Especially with Idra regressing since he left Korea.
Also you can't forget that TSL has one of the best coaches out of any team in the world. Lee has been a great coach at MBC and TSL.
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On July 21 2011 15:45 wats0n wrote: Why weren't Korean netizens outraged when Startale picked up Trickster? Gimme a break.
how do you see this same as startale picking up trickster are you trolling or something?
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well im guessing there was no formal contract in place between puma and his team. if not why would TSL just be so willing to let go one of their star players. If there was a proper contract then Puma wouldn't have been able to do this in the first place
in any case i highly doubt EG is to blame for this..
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On July 21 2011 15:22 yepenaxa wrote: that's American business culture vs Asian sensibilities for you. It's a bloody competition competition. EG did what would benefit them. TSL was caught off guard. It's a sharks' world. Yep, couldnt agree more. I really could care less about "unethical" player appropriations. Its just the nature of the business, hopefully Puma will benefit from this. Thats all that really matters IMO.On July 21 2011 15:47 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:46 Shewklad wrote:On July 21 2011 15:43 Serpico wrote:On July 21 2011 15:41 Shewklad wrote:On July 21 2011 15:35 babylon wrote: What the fuck is going on?
Fucking hell. Firstly, this is horrible press for foreign teams. Absolutely shitty. Secondly, going behind management? Dodgy at best. Thirdly, Puma, I know money is great, but you just got 50k USD, and at the very least you could, y'know, wait until your contract expired?
Goddammit, what the hell is wrong with having a little professionalism in SC2? Everything this man just wrote. EG must be one of the most unprofessional teams there is. And I'm pretty sure that Puma will get bored when Incontrol, Idra and machine are "hitting the gym" - While Puma acctualy wants to improve in sc2. Yes, because SC 2 players literally practice so much they can't do anything ever not involved with SC 2. If you used your brain you would understand that what I ment is that Puma is used to practice SO much more then the rest of those guys, and I don't think it will be fitting at all for Puma. Unless Puma played broodwar (I've no idea) as a pro in Korea I'd assume he's never practiced as much as Idra consistently in the same atmosphere. No need to use insults so aggressively kiddo. He was a Terran in Estro and then later Hite [pretty sure].
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On July 21 2011 15:46 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:46 sigoly wrote: idra demuslim puma
that looks respectable.
time to kick out the dead wood in incontrol, machine, axslav, strifcro and lz and employ more poaching shenanigans. demuslim isn't even close to those 2 lol...
His TvP and TvT are, his TvZ is abysmal atm from what I've seen but his TvP is definitely scary.
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On July 21 2011 15:45 EchoZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:43 Aranaukin wrote:On July 21 2011 15:41 EchoZ wrote:On July 21 2011 15:40 Aranaukin wrote: Why is this scummy? This happens in pro sports all the time. You never go talk to the management in pro sports you talk to the agent. I was beginning to wonder if agents would ever be involved in e-sports. You people need to stop being butt hurt over something that's not a big deal. If Puma left to join EG it's probably because they're going to accommodate him better than TSL is. Which is what he deserves for being a great player.
So now you guys don't care that it's better for the individuals training if it's worse for a team? lulz. You see, the coach IS the agent. Does a coach get money for signing the player to another team ? no. The coach is the manager, far different from an agent. One slight problem is that Sc2 leagues haven't developed to the point where their is actually a market. So you actually can't talk about agents yet, because it is simply preposterous. EDIT: Managers are the players only "formal" outside link with all the negotiations and stuff too for now in sc2. Managers are not the agents in any manner at all. The players are their own agents. Managers are simply that, managers. They run the team and try to sign players.
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On July 21 2011 15:44 taLbuk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:40 yiodee wrote: It is well known that the EG coach is a little bit of a bad person. I don't want to take the liberty of calling him an asshole in a forum.
That being said, it is absolutely awesome that a player as good as PUMA is joining a foreigner team! Not only EG will benefit from it, but it also opens doors to a more dynamic trade of players between korea and abroad the EG coach is a bad person, do you even know who the EG coach is? or are you talking about the Sirscoots or Alex Garfield? because its because of people like them that eSports is growing in legitimacy, if they are "bad people" than what does that make us people who don't do anything for esports besides watching it? ridiculous.
Holy shit dude, I understand calling "good person" vs "bad person" is really subjective, but it certainly isn't measured by how much you do for ESPORTS
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On July 21 2011 15:47 ckolev wrote:Dislike - Bypassing the coach is something really bad. Like for professional sports players, I think that this is unacceptable. There should be some kind of rule, that this should be forbidden. I mean if the player wants to leave, its OK, but first and most importantly it should be contacting the current team coach/manager and discussing it with them. EG just lost my respect for that team, sorry 
your jumping to conclusions based on one side of the story via twitter posts with high emotions, who knows how this will develop but i think its far to early to be jumping to conclusions like you are.
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On July 21 2011 15:45 wats0n wrote: Why weren't Korean netizens outraged when Startale picked up Trickster? Gimme a break. it was a complete different reasons, they didnt have the same plans for the future and tsl were going through changes etc. to topic : ye it will be hard to cheer on eg and more to cheer on puma in the future:/ Poor tsl.
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EG ... statement please ... if the case is descriped correctly by the TSL manager, then EG's actions are not so gentleman at all ... also I don't think recruiting koreans as mercenaries is the perfect idea.
I am an EG fan, but feel a lil bit dissapointed atm.
Don't become like Real Madrid in soccer for example ... a team full of mercenaries ... thats not cool and proven to be not successful. (although soccer is a team game and its different, than the individual sports)
Seems we need something like federaction/asociation, which needs to define some rules like in every sport.
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On July 21 2011 15:46 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 15:44 Shewklad wrote: Ahh... Good old United States of America. It's all about the $$$ - Too bad you're soon out of $. Low blow. Just for that, we wont be buying any more swedish fish OR meatballs. How do you like them apples?
I do like apples!
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