EPTPuma leaves TSL for EG - Page 28
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Arterial
Australia1039 Posts
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Animostas
United States568 Posts
I just find it a bit weird that these foreign teams are adopting Korean players, with the total lack of communication and all. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:41 Shewklad wrote: Everything this man just wrote. EG must be one of the most unprofessional teams there is. And I'm pretty sure that Puma will get bored when Incontrol, Idra and machine are "hitting the gym" - While Puma acctualy wants to improve in sc2. Yes, because SC 2 players literally practice so much they can't do anything ever not involved with SC 2. | ||
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Mootland
Finland63 Posts
EG has been revealed to pay Puma a certain amount of salary, and to provide Puma with money for foreign tournaments. Puma will be staying in Korea but he will be flew over around the world for international tournaments? Will Puma still be trying for GSL? So many questions left unanswered here...A little funfact: TSL was the first sc2 pro team to pay salary to their players 2nd: I think this is a bad move from PuMa's part considering his potential growth in sc2. 3rd: This will most likely affect the relations between the foreign and the korean community and pro scene and I'm quite sure this will be remembered for quite some while. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:38 Arcticc wrote: A form of this comment has been posted about 20 times now. This literally happened last week at the company i work for. A bigger company went behind my company's back and poached our employee. It's shady and it's not something a respectable company should do. It's a real snaky corporate America move. No, it's not a sneaky corporate America move! People own themselves, their employers do not own them. | ||
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:42 Namu wrote: how do you even know they dont have a binding contract? do you have any idea what you're talking about? He does not. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:43 Fionn wrote: Who says TSL was paying Puma next to nothing? Just because Artosis said some Korean players don't get paid at all, DOES NOT MEAN TSL DOESN'T PAY THEIR PLAYERS WELL. It's been known forever that TSL was the first team in Korea to give salaries to their players. This simply seems like EG has more money, gave Puma a bigger contract, Puma forced Lee's hand, and Lee terminated Puma's contract so that he could leave. If this was truly TSL "owning" a player, Lee could have just ignored Puma's wishes and kept him under his current contract. They were giving FD something like 80k, which is 4x the money the average Korean person gets. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:39 Serpico wrote: I dont understand. If this is legal under his contract (allowed to talk to other teams and discuss deals) then it's a complete failure on their part to put the proper wording in contracts to completely lock down their players. It's business and you all CONSTANTLY scream about ESPORTS getting bigger and this is apart of that. Pretty much. People can't compare this to the NFL or NBA because there is no league/association that governs teams and players. Its a complete free market with NO regulation. Nothing will change unless something like that rises. And if it does, esports has gone big time. EG did nothing wrong. TSL could have refused to release Puma. And then he would still be on TSL. But they let him leave. They didn't sign him while he was still on TSL. Haven't you ever searched for other jobs while still at your old one? Pretty much the same thing. This is the 4th player to leave TSL in a short amount of time. Something is up with them. And I think its incredibly naive to sit there and bash EG without knowing the whole story, especially with players fleeing from TSL. | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:40 yiodee wrote: It is well known that the EG coach is a little bit of a bad person. I don't want to take the liberty of calling him an asshole in a forum. That being said, it is absolutely awesome that a player as good as PUMA is joining a foreigner team! Not only EG will benefit from it, but it also opens doors to a more dynamic trade of players between korea and abroad the EG coach is a bad person, do you even know who the EG coach is? or are you talking about the Sirscoots or Alex Garfield? because its because of people like them that eSports is growing in legitimacy, if they are "bad people" than what does that make us people who don't do anything for esports besides watching it? ridiculous. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
I kid, I kid. Seriously though, I won`t lie I am a bit disappointed, I can`t find myself cheering for PuMa to be honest. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Shewklad
Sweden482 Posts
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Opera
France469 Posts
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Starfox
Austria699 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:00 Milkis wrote:Manager Lee decided to respect the player's wishes in the end. He noted that "It's really disturbing. It feels like the player I raised was just stolen away from me.", adding that "There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this" If no contract was broken by this agreement between Puma and EG that Lee guy should perhaps do something like: shut the fuck up? There is a system he 'needs', it's called: contracts | ||
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Alexian
United States46 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:44 Shewklad wrote: Ahh... Good old United States of America. It's all about the $$$ - Too bad you're soon out of $. Well since you seem to have the detailed based on your confident post, would you care to give us some insight into EG's financial situation? | ||
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Halcyondaze
United States509 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:36 OptimusYale wrote: HOLY SHIT! I have 2 feelings about this, 1 good 1 bad. Good: Amazing korean SC player joining a team that is one of the best teams out there, a great signing picking up one of the most amazing players at the moment Bad: Player sniping needs to stop/be regulated. If TSL are 'releasing' him, it means they are getting no money back from what they invested into him. When will the player sniping stop? We've had teams like FXO take players from other teams. So many teams are just taking players at any point...it just seems silly to me to not have some kind of regulation to stop/keep this happening at the same point. We need a global body to moderate actions of teams (like FIFA) and have maybe 3 windows a year where players can be transfered/ drafted kind of like SCBW. Without it teams are going to lack consistency and lose players that should not be leaving. We need something in place to stop this! WWESA? (World Wide Esports Associsation?) If Puma wants to leave then so fucking be it. The korean teams DON'T treat their players as well as the Foreign teams will. I hope this keeps happening, maybe the SC2 scene will sway out of korea a bit | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:43 Aranaukin wrote: Does a coach get money for signing the player to another team ? no. The coach is the manager, far different from an agent. One slight problem is that Sc2 leagues haven't developed to the point where their is actually a market. So you actually can't talk about agents yet, because it is simply preposterous. EDIT: Managers are the players only "formal" outside link with all the negotiations and stuff too for now in sc2. | ||
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wats0n
United States509 Posts
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