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Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 25

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Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#481
oh my god. congratulations EG!!! I'm sure everyone on EG is super excited to have an additional team-mate of such high caliber to train with!!
Try hard or don't try at all.
t1mid
Profile Joined May 2010
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 06:38:36
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#482
On July 21 2011 15:34 Bosu wrote:
I don't see how it's shady at all. If I were a player I would want to make choices for myself and have teams talk to me not my managers and coaches.


I have never been on a professional team nor do I know how they are ran and what is considered to be a "dick move", but it seems very logical that if one team wants to pick up a player, they would talk to the player himself and see if he wants to join.

I don't see why in the world they would have to talk to the COACH, it is the player's decision whether or not he wants to stay on his team or go join a different one unless somehow bound by a contract.

Congrats EG on the pick up.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#483
On July 21 2011 15:36 Archerylady wrote:
I hope neither Puma nor any other EG player places in the money ever again.


Inc can just 4 gate TLO...again...and again...

Skills for kills solider.
Snitches get stiches
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#484
On July 21 2011 15:36 dubRa wrote:
holy fucking shit
"I guess I have to recruit myself some pumas" - SirScoots @ Lo3 #79
He wasn't joking.


Yeah LOL spot on
banelings
Arcticc
Profile Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#485
On July 21 2011 15:34 Bosu wrote:
I don't see how it's shady at all. If I were a player I would want to make choices for myself and have teams talk to me not my managers and coaches.


A form of this comment has been posted about 20 times now.

This literally happened last week at the company i work for. A bigger company went behind my company's back and poached our employee. It's shady and it's not something a respectable company should do. It's a real snaky corporate America move.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#486
Well, I guess I'm kinda used to this kind of negotiation(behind the back) because of how football(soccer) works here in Brazil, you all seem so pure :D. I can assure you guys one thing though, when the player wants to leave...he'll leave.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
SwordfishConspiracy
Profile Joined December 2010
United States146 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#487
Holy crap, people. Do you also get your news from the first raging troll you see on 4chan? Wait for the whole story to come out before you go crucifying EG. Just because TSL's coach is angry about it doesn't make it underhanded or sleazy. I'm sure there will be an official statement from both sides tomorrow.
SwordfishConspiracy
ulaw
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#488
I wonder where the EG press release is? This story seems to be moving with only a brief statement by only one of the parties involved.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 21 2011 06:38 GMT
#489
On July 21 2011 15:36 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
i think its more pumas fault that he accepted a offer without even talking to lee, once he was approached at NASL he should have told lee so they could all have a meeting. Seems like they approached and got a deal set without even telling Lee.

He didn't accept the deal before talking to Lee. He said he wanted to join EG and TSL allowed it.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#490
On July 21 2011 15:35 holy_war wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:35 arbitrageur wrote:
I don't understand why this is bad ethics? Why can't puma and EG come to an agreement without consultation with TSL?


Cuz he was probably under contract with TSL at that time?


EG has always followed guidelines for signing contracted players, look at Demuslim. It's pretty evident that Puma was NOT under any sort of legal contract.
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cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#491
I sure hope IdrA uses this opportunity to get the best ZvT in the world, lol.
havox_
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany442 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#492
Wow, things just get sick
Obv have to agree that it will be tough for Puma to stay in shape/get better without a Korean team house... but well, maybe Western scene will be able to show us how it works within the next months?


Still dont get the EG haters... Seriously, inalmost every sport its like this: Team talks to player -> player talks to his own team -> teams agree on transfer fee -> player changes teams - usually we just dont hear about the "team approches player" state, cuz nobody cares/its normal.

But maybe it's not like this in the American sport leagues - and maybe it's not like that in Korea, so it's knid of normal that TSL doesnt understand this + posts their thoughts. Cultural differences, its that easy.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#493
On July 21 2011 15:35 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:34 Inkcrow wrote:
Did any of you watch LiveOnThree? im not so sure Scoots would do such a dick move while believing/saying all that he did.

maybe we should wait for the EG statement before we judge and rant?

good pick up EG, move Puma to the EG house ?



Puma moves to EG house.

Idra gets a strong ZvT and puma gets a strong TvZ

No one else can help improve puma. He'd just crush everyone else.

Yeah let's watch Live on three and watch the EG representatives talk their asses off for 2 hours again without addressing any serious arguments, taking the stupidest arguments and trolls from the chat and building up straw man arguments, then standing back and letting Alex/Scoots/DJ Wheat (for some reason lol) yell into their mikes about how stupid and unreasonable we're being.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#494
It seems awfully dirty for EG to go about recruiting him like this, but it was obviously a better deal than the one he had with TSL. Best of luck to Puma, I hope this works out for him.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 06:40:10
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#495
I dont understand. If this is legal under his contract (allowed to talk to other teams and discuss deals) then it's a complete failure on their part to put the proper wording in contracts to completely lock down their players. It's business and you all CONSTANTLY scream about ESPORTS getting bigger and this is apart of that.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#496
On July 21 2011 15:22 doihy wrote:
Lost respect for puma , its one thing for lower tier players like rain or hwangsin to join foreign teams... but its totally different if a higher tier player joins foreign teams just for $$$.. Whatever happened to building teamwork.or wanting to have the highest tier of practice partners? I'll be rooting against him in every tourney he plays in..


Work 12+ hours plus per day,
Be among the best in the world at what you do,
Get paid next to nothing for it.

In what twisted reality does this make sense? I would have done exactly the same as what Puma did. I'm on the fence about whether it was a dick move from EG or not but you can't blame Puma in the slightest.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
Mr.Brightside
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia317 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#497
Move over IdrA, there's a more bad manner jerk in town and his name is... your boss? I don't like what EG did but I guess lucky them that they got Puma. I wonder if the other EG players will fall into his shadow though. This is the concern I am having with any Korean player joining a foreign team. Perhaps the foreigners can step it up again with better training partners?
"Makin' Pylons, Makin' Probes, Fightin' Round The World" - Russell Crowe
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#498
Hmm. Just another reason to hate EG. Nothing much to see here.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#499
Wait, didn't JP sort of allude to something like this on the last SOTG? When they were talking about the FXO thing, didn't he mention something about EG?
Dictator for Life of the PuMa Fanclub/ DRG, PuMA, Sage, Puzzle, MMA Fighting!
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 06:40:04
July 21 2011 06:39 GMT
#500
On July 21 2011 15:36 last light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:35 JoeAWESOME wrote:
I'm calling it now!

SixjaxCLIDE!

What I'm most concerned about is the relasionship between Korea and "the foreigners"....


Why do people randomly take players and stick team tags infront of them? Like some dude said "LiquidDRG" a few pages ago. Is this supposed to be clever or something? Get real.

You think SixjaxClide is random? lol
Do you know Artosis at all?
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