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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:03 Slakter wrote: Stuff like this actually makes me miss Kespa. Now that is something I didnt think I would say for a while. Shit, someone had to say it. | ||
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starcraft2rush
306 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:02 KeksX wrote: Against foreigners, maybe? Then suddenly koreans, IdrA not winning. A coincidence? Idra got 4th.?? everyone else got fukin slaughtered by the koreans as well. Thorzain, Select, Naniwa, all slaughtered horribly | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
I guess from Puma's perspective, in Korea he has to fight through code B/A to get to any decent money from SC2 while by joining EG he can participate in lots of foreign tournaments and have more immediate success. I was very impressed with his play at NASL considering he's relatively unknown, can't wait to see what he can achieve with EG. I wonder if he will be moving to the USA? | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:58 alexhard wrote: Actually it never happens in any other sport. Players are contracted and if other teams want them, they have to pay transfer fees. You seriously believe this? | ||
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:01 hYdrA-MeNo wrote: EG has the right to offer anyone anything and anyone has the ability to take or dismiss his offer. The people here flaming puma are not only moron but are people who dont understand the nature of competition. This is true. But I think that coach lee is upset because he wasen't talk to first and from what i've read in Korea thats how things work. So it was a sign of disrespect not to talk to him first. It's not just about EG | ||
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GoBackToGo
187 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:54 Vei wrote: I feel like the ban on the "f5" post is really unwarrented.. that was posted when this thread was posted with little more than a title and a note that an update was coming -- he was just creatively expressing what everyone was thinking.... ugh.. exactly. if those "f5" guys had posted something like "cant wait for more infos", nothing would have happened. saying "F5!!!!!" is basically the same thing. not the first time on TL that i noticed someone was very proud of his banning abilities. grow up. | ||
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PeZuY
935 Posts
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Pajegetc
United States3158 Posts
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:37 seiferoth10 wrote: Oh thank god, someone with a brain. You are a rare breed. Don't fully agree. I used to work (in Sweden) in a company that's #1 worldwide in its field (not that it matters too much but just saying it was not a 2 people thing) . At some point, one of our competitors had organisation issues while at the same time having bad financial results while we were doing good...in some attempt to fix that, they started to call "our" employees directly, offering them more money for the same job. Some people accepted, then some employees informed our management of what was happening. Management from company called management from company and that shit stopped very quickly. Business is war they say, and yes workers have freedom of movement and so on, but you gotta keep ethics in the game too otherwise it's going nowhere. If you say those things don't matter, then what good is it to have a management ? what about team spirit ? why would any team refrain from contacting any EG player directly, bypassing scoots to have them come to a new team in no time ? Imagine scoots trusts -say- that Idra would stay in EG forever and then tomorrow he learns that he moved to - team X- for a shitload of cash, it'd be normal for the team management and the other players to be disappointed, plus it probably means less sponsor money in the short term, and so on and so on. I don't wanna compare this to the situation with EG/Puma/TSL since I don't know what happened, my point is just, money/contract can't be everything, respect for your present team/players/collegas/friends and so on is important too. If the TSL manager is upset about it all (and Cliiiiiiiiiide too), it must be that someone did something wrong somewhere. Puma ? EG ? Tsl ? Everybody ? | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:03 Tachion wrote: And what infrastructure is there in the Korean scene? It's already been stated that their players weren't even under contract. Their scene right now is basically throw a bunch of guys in a house together for practice and that's that. that's my entire point, there IS no structure, and you're saying this incidence is fine because it's fine in the west, where there is ALSO no structure? your point makes no sense | ||
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Iroh
England48 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:55 zzdd wrote: Actually everyone in the entire world had a job they started out, learned from and then get promoted or get a better offer. This is no different. I work as an undertaker, my job is to provide a good service of care on funerals. I recieved training and will progress to get better and gain experience. I could get a better offer and it would be a loss for my employer but he could find someone to replace me. Someone involved in sports whole purpose is to train and get better. Which is different in the way that everyday they train whereas in a job you only do a bit to achieve your level. In most jobs there will always be someone to replace you, in a sport there will be...but they could be slower, unfit, wrong attitude and take another month or so of training to get close to being as good or maybe never live up to another players greatness. And the teams job is to win, not to provide a good service, they are paying these players to train and get better. For a team to support a player and work to get him better then have him taken without any talk between managers is terrible. Which is why in most sports there is this kind of agreement, and it is needed in esports. | ||
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:02 Beyonder wrote: I wouldnt become a professional gambler. EG has exactly one decent practice partner  You are calling DeMuslim bad? and idrA decent? He is probably one of the top 5 foreigners in SC2 | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
And I hope for the sake of both sides nothing dirty went on, ie directly offering the guy big money without informing anyone else | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:03 starcraft2rush wrote: Idra got 4th.?? everyone else got fukin slaughtered by the koreans as well. The point is that IdrA can't stand against the koreans constantly, he is not at their level. How is that going to help against koreans? Yea sure, PuMa will beat foreigners, too, but he won't be able to beat koreans constantly by just practicing with bad players. | ||
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vojnik
Macedonia923 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:01 IcedBacon wrote: Ah, complete disrespect of another culture. Sorry but not everyone is greedy like in the West. So you know how in this recession in the USA, CEOs are giving themselves and other high-ranking employees raises when there's no spare cash to be throwing around? Well there was some article about a Japanese CEO (of a huge company, FYI) who lowered his pay to either that of the average employee or even to nothing (can't remember which one it was) and had his lunch in the common cafeteria with the average employees. Something about respect and not wasting money when there's nothing to be spared. It's the same in Korea and plenty of other Asian countries. Family and respect, not individualism and capitalism. Ye and the Nike factories in Asia are a huge happy familly | ||
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hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
On July 21 2011 18:02 Namu wrote: we're comparing scenes here, obviously? I know there are no rules in place to say EG tampered, but talking in comparison, that is EXACTLY what EG did (assuming the content in OP is correct). Now assuming Puma did not have a binding contract, it's obviously legally not a problem, but morally? not so sure.. Morals??!?!?!? lol Your thinking like PUMA owes something to TSL..... He owes them nothing and EG has the right to try an make their team the best possible team they can please explain to me what they did wrong? They talked to puma when they were close? ohhhhhh noooooooo -.-..... | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 21 2011 17:53 Kairos~ wrote: I wonder who EG is going to snatch up at Anaheim. (: The terms "D" "R" and "G" come to mind. That'd be nuts, lol. | ||
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FinnGamer
Germany2426 Posts
I hope PuMa will have a good time on EG and that he joins the EG House | ||
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Skee
Canada702 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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