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Deltablazy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada580 Posts
July 19 2011 18:12 GMT
#881
OnionTaker's tweet makes much more sense. Needs to be added to the OP, like many said, just so that people get the full story.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 19 2011 18:14 GMT
#882
On July 20 2011 02:58 catleaves wrote:
bravo to jessica for standing up. why join the bullies when you can beat them?

the term overreacting is relative. you do what you have to do to protect the people you are responsible for.

Lashing out against trolls is usually not the way to go if you want to protect someone from them.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
July 19 2011 18:15 GMT
#883
She needs to grow up.

Suing 16 year olds because they are "humiliating" Eve.

Get real.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#884
On July 20 2011 03:15 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
She needs to grow up.

Suing 16 year olds because they are "humiliating" Eve.

Get real.


Read the OP more carefully.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
July 19 2011 18:18 GMT
#885
It is hard to say whether she is over reacting or not seeing as I can't read anything she has said (or the abuse Eve has received) other then what has been translated for me.

However, I have no problem with her suing people who have been creating fake pornographic pictures of her and serious things like that. Not only is it personally humiliating, immensely... disrespectful (for lack of a better word), and borderline traumatizing for a fairly young person, but it also hurts her career as a pro gamer and is therefore jeopardizing her livelihood. In that sense, it is no different then the case with Destiny taking those kids to court for DDoS'ing him and preventing him from streaming, and consequently, from making money and supporting himself and Destiny's Child (pun intended ).

People may be saying that she is overreacting and what not, and I can sort of see that perspective, but I think it is definitely a necessary "overreaction" because without some sort of precedent of action being taken against internet harassers like this, it will never end. No matter whether it was Eve or anyone else, any girl trying to enter the pro scene would have seen this same reaction and that is completely ridiculous and there cannot be any tolerance for that. As far as I know, Eve doesn't even have any sort of history of controversy or drama or anything that people are feeding off of, they are simply harassing her because she is a female pro gamer, and that is it.

As for some of her "keyboard battles" with seemingly random people, she was probably a little out of line there and just let her emotions get the best of her. It is hard to blame her for the way she is acting though, seeing as she is also an iconic female in eSports and I'm sure it is really hard for her to see what is happening to Eve and maintain a level head about it. Hopefully she realizes this and steps away from the computer for a while and just takes care of business.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#886
On July 20 2011 03:15 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
She needs to grow up.

Suing 16 year olds because they are "humiliating" Eve.

Get real.

Should read the OP more carefully
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
poorbeggarman
Profile Joined August 2010
139 Posts
July 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#887
On July 20 2011 03:15 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
She needs to grow up.

Suing 16 year olds because they are "humiliating" Eve.

Get real.


Did you read bits and pieces of the OP and come up with your conclusion?

+ Show Spoiler +
There was an another incident. A 16 years old girl twited ‘We all know Kim Ga Yeon[SlayerS_Jessica] sucks at English.’[This sentence was written without any honorifics, making it quite rude toned]. While it is quite a rude thing to say, the nature of twiter only lets followers see the twits. However, Slayers_Jessica somehow finds this private chat amongst the 16years old girl and her followers then retweets it for everyone to see and publicly starts another fight with her.
[Edit 2: She DID NOT sue this girl. she had a public argument, detail in the spoiler]



Get real
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 19 2011 18:20 GMT
#888
On July 20 2011 03:14 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 02:58 catleaves wrote:
bravo to jessica for standing up. why join the bullies when you can beat them?

the term overreacting is relative. you do what you have to do to protect the people you are responsible for.

Lashing out against trolls is usually not the way to go if you want to protect someone from them.

Killing one to warn a thousand. Once one troll dies others will be discouraged to troll as well
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#889
A few of the posts I saw deserve it for sure, some others I'm not so sure of, but regardless it's sending a strong message that this shit won't be tolerated and I can't blame Jessica for doing it.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 19 2011 18:23 GMT
#890
Wow. The particular case of the respectful fan is very worrisome. I came in expecting to side with the manager on this issue because of the very significant flaming, but I think the manager may indeed be overreacting quite a bit :o
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
July 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#891
jessica needs to grow a pair. welcome to the internet. Do you think this is isolated to sc2? god. Get over yourself.




User was temp banned for this post.
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Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
July 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#892
How much she cares about team members is endearing IMO and no, I do not really think she is overreacting. Many of the things people have written about Eve were disgusting and hateful more than normal trolls and would easily lead to people losing jobs irl if their boss heard and things like that. Korean culture is also very different and has a history of these 'anti-fans' driving some celebrities to suicide so I am happy to see Jessica bringing some pain to them
“It's like poker. You can play your best, but you've got to know when to fold your cards and take a rest, and know when to hold your cards, hold your breath and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck."
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 18:34:38
July 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#893
On July 20 2011 03:15 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
She needs to grow up.

Suing 16 year olds because they are "humiliating" Eve.

Get real.


Do you make a habit of briefly skimming sources that have extremely little information about a topic then making a conclusion about the topic as a whole? It shows that we're only a few hundred thousand years evolved from savage primates whose major accomplishment is a sharpened rock.

Now I know why 50% of the American public disagree with 97% of publishing climatologists. It all makes sense now.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 19 2011 18:26 GMT
#894
On July 20 2011 03:24 Destro wrote:
jessica needs to grow a pair. welcome to the internet. Do you think this is isolated to sc2? god. Get over yourself.



You seems not have read the OP either, go back and read it.
I know selective reading is hard to cure but do your best.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
July 19 2011 18:26 GMT
#895
On July 20 2011 03:14 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 02:58 catleaves wrote:
bravo to jessica for standing up. why join the bullies when you can beat them?

the term overreacting is relative. you do what you have to do to protect the people you are responsible for.

Lashing out against trolls is usually not the way to go if you want to protect someone from them.


If you have a better idea I am sure Jessica and indeed many others would like to hear it...
“It's like poker. You can play your best, but you've got to know when to fold your cards and take a rest, and know when to hold your cards, hold your breath and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck."
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 18:33:36
July 19 2011 18:26 GMT
#896
On July 20 2011 03:23 Z3kk wrote:
Wow. The particular case of the respectful fan is very worrisome. I came in expecting to side with the manager on this issue because of the very significant flaming, but I think the manager may indeed be overreacting quite a bit :o


It's not evidenced that the assertions made in the OP (or at least the quotation of these assertions from the individual's twitter) w.r.t this incident are factual.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
July 19 2011 18:26 GMT
#897
the best way to silence all these "fans" is for eve to play a televised game of starcraft. she doesn't even have to be good, as long as she shows competence in the game.

i would get rather offended if someone attacked my team, or my friends like that. though she should just make a public statement, and let the team's actions speak for themselves, rather than going after each individual. really gonna lose a lot of fans by doing this.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 19 2011 18:28 GMT
#898
On July 20 2011 02:40 FuTon wrote:
This is the tweet from OnionTaker who is, I think, a translator for Jessica:
Show nested quote +
On Tuesday 19th July 2011, @oniontaker said:

I don't think people understand what's happening with @SlayerS_Jessica and the legal action. I was talking about it with her, so let me explain her position: she isn't just suing random people, whether fans or antis.

When a female player joined the ranks of SlayerS, certain people photoshopped her into indecent and pornographic images out of spite. Others also spammed sexist, derogatory posts about her Jessica. Eve feels humiliated and hurt by the abuse.

Jessica is not suing the average anti who is saying bad things about SlayerS: she is taking action against people who are immorally persecuting her and one of her team members.

Korean observers see what's happening, but there's some non-Koreans who think that she's just suing random Starcraft fans: this is not true. She's going after the people who are defaming and humiliating one of her team members.

Jessica is trying to protect SlayerS Eve, someone who has only just come into the public eye and doesn't deserve the abuse. She is doing what any person would do to protect their family and friends; if someone close to you was getting that kind of abuse for absolutely no reason, wouldn't you do everything in your power to stop it?



Amen! Please add to the OP!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Lifter
Profile Joined April 2011
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 18:31:32
July 19 2011 18:30 GMT
#899
They are saying that Eve is just a kid here, but I remember reading somewhere she is 21?
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 18:35:52
July 19 2011 18:31 GMT
#900
On July 20 2011 03:30 Lifter wrote:Anyways, definitely not worth wasting your money and time going after these dumb kids SlayerS...

Yeah, I'm sure you've thoroughly reviewed the objective function of the SlayerS team and the ways in which the team and its management thinks this addition will achieve these objectives.
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