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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
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Whatever Sj.Major is still boss.
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On July 18 2011 21:45 Rayansaki wrote:
Although smurfing is usually seen as cheating, I feel like he was also cheated before he did that.
The tournament rules didn't warn it was citizens only and Major invested his money to get a SEA account to participate in it. I think this was handled terribly, they should've let him participate in this one tournament, and then in the next one just make the rules freakin clear so other people don't make the same mistake.
He didn't buy an account, even in his own post he says he didn't buy an SEA account. He "Borrowed" someone elses account to participate.
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On July 18 2011 21:16 Ipp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 21:03 joshboy42 wrote:On July 18 2011 20:52 Ipp wrote:There is fault on both sides, just because Major has a bad past he is getting the huge PR Hit. Maybe I'm wrong but here is how I understand everything went down. - The official post states "Anyone with a valid SEA battle.net account can participate."
- Major buys a SEA Account expecting to compensate himself with tournament winnings.
- Major doesn't get seeded, and asks why.
- Admin says "You are not SEA Citizen", which is in the TL Tracker but not the forum post. Expecting a person to read both the TL Tracker + Official post is a little bit much.
- Upset Major, decides to smurf even after the admin said he couldn't play as a "F U for making me spend ~$60 for nothing."
Was Major right in smurfing? No. But the mistake was on both parties in this case. In my opinion they should not of kicked him out but if he won they should have given the prize money to the account holder. It would be up to the account holder to decide if Major gets the money or not, so if it was just a random person on the internet chances are Major wouldn't get paid anyways and he cannot complain about anything. Smurfing happens. We had an oGs player smurf one of the RQTV Opens but without explicit rules, I doubt the community would react this way. The only reason this is a "big deal" is because it is infact Major. I could understand if he didn't perform well in MLG but cut the man some slack. Ok clearly you didn't take the time to actually read the post. Major was told FIVE DAYS before the event that he was not eligible. And he was then deliberately deceitful in using a diamond smurf account to anyway. And then when he was caught he lied again and called the tourney admin a fag. I'm failing to see at what point the tournament was in the wrong. And it is a big deal even if he doesn't get given the prize money, because on his way he has eliminated other legitimate contestants from having a shot at winning. The tournament has inconsistent rules, right here it states "Anyone with a valid SEA battle.net account can participate.". You can't just say it is open to everyone, and at seeding decide not to seed someone. The fact that major smurfed is wrong, I said that. But lets replace Major with a GSL Winner, would you still be upset at the player?
I'd be upset at anyone behaving like major did in this situation, I don't care who it is. The fact that it was major just means it wasn't surprising.
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On July 18 2011 21:48 Rayansaki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 21:46 hippocritical wrote:On July 18 2011 21:45 Rayansaki wrote:
Although smurfing is usually seen as cheating, I feel like he was also cheated before he did that.
The tournament rules didn't warn it was citizens only and Major invested his money to get a SEA account to participate in it. I think this was handled terribly, they should've let him participate in this one tournament, and then in the next one just make the rules freakin clear so other people don't make the same mistake.
:/ Please tell me you had the common sense to read the entire thing before posting. He didn't pay anything to get the account, someone lent it to him, and the rules were made clear by the admin saying no you can't play in this tournament as evidenced by the chatlog. I'm sorry but it would've been impossible to miss if you had actually read the thing. I did read the whole thread. He did pay for his own account to participate, and only got the smurf after he was unable to enter with his own account which he purchased. Did you read the whole thread?
On July 18 2011 21:09 sixjaxMajor wrote:
pretty much sum up everything and yes i didnt had to buy an account on the sea server
Your move?
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after reading through Majors response I lost all respect for him. He's young and has his life in front of him, idra and naniwa changed for the better maybe Major can too, but untill then yeah staying away from sc2-stuff related to him.
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I really thought Artosis would be able to whip this kid in to order but I suppose he's beyond salvation.
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I think even worse than the fact he tried to smurf into the tournament after being told he wasn't allowed, is the posts he made here + the chats with Dox and deL.. lol thats some shadyy business.
Its a shame we wont see Sixjax do anything about this
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On July 18 2011 21:43 dabom88 wrote:
We know tgun, that's been made abundantly clear. We know you played soccer with OGS or something. How did that go btw?
Posters are still using you and moonglade as an example in arguments against Dox's reasoning for making this tourney SEA-only, but that really does not have to do anything with Major's actions. So really, you only apply to those who somehow thinks this tourney being SEA-only somehow excuses Major's actions.
We didn't even get to play, it was raining really bad, so I ended up practicing all day instead. (:
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Didn't TT1 map hack in SCBW?
People can recover from anything.
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after reading op all i can say is that i really dont like people who not accept a NO 
after he would have won everyone would have seen who he is its not they not want other nations cause of rassistics but to improve sea players and so its very uncool of major/princess
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On July 18 2011 21:49 hippocritical wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 21:48 Rayansaki wrote:On July 18 2011 21:46 hippocritical wrote:On July 18 2011 21:45 Rayansaki wrote:
Although smurfing is usually seen as cheating, I feel like he was also cheated before he did that.
The tournament rules didn't warn it was citizens only and Major invested his money to get a SEA account to participate in it. I think this was handled terribly, they should've let him participate in this one tournament, and then in the next one just make the rules freakin clear so other people don't make the same mistake.
:/ Please tell me you had the common sense to read the entire thing before posting. He didn't pay anything to get the account, someone lent it to him, and the rules were made clear by the admin saying no you can't play in this tournament as evidenced by the chatlog. I'm sorry but it would've been impossible to miss if you had actually read the thing. I did read the whole thread. He did pay for his own account to participate, and only got the smurf after he was unable to enter with his own account which he purchased. Did you read the whole thread? On July 18 2011 21:09 sixjaxMajor wrote: pretty much sum up everything and yes i didnt had to buy an account on the sea serverYour move?
On July 18 2011 21:11 sixjaxMajor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 21:09 Bobble wrote:On July 18 2011 21:06 Ipp wrote:On July 18 2011 20:56 Zaros wrote:On July 18 2011 20:52 Ipp wrote:There is fault on both sides, just because Major has a bad past he is getting the huge PR Hit. Maybe I'm wrong but here is how I understand everything went down. - The official post states "Anyone with a valid SEA battle.net account can participate."
- Major buys a SEA Account expecting to compensate himself with tournament winnings.
- Major doesn't get seeded, and asks why.
- Admin says "You are not SEA Citizen", which is in the TL Tracker but not the forum post. Expecting a person to read both the TL Tracker + Official post is a little bit much.
- Upset Major, decides to smurf even after the admin said he couldn't play as a "F U for making me spend ~$60 for nothing."
Was Major right in smurfing? No. But the mistake was on both parties in this case. In my opinion they should not of kicked him out but if he won they should have given the prize money to the account holder. It would be up to the account holder to decide if Major gets the money or not, so if it was just a random person on the internet chances are Major wouldn't get paid anyways and he cannot complain about anything. Smurfing happens. We had an oGs player smurf one of the RQTV Opens but without explicit rules, I doubt the community would react this way. The only reason this is a "big deal" is because it is infact Major. I could understand if he didn't perform well in MLG but cut the man some slack. He then proceded to insult the admin after cheating so I think the backlash is well deserved. The tournament admins disrespected him by not seeding him. They state you only need an account to play, so he gets an account then does not get seeded. I agree that Major didn't handle this properly but he was provoked. I am assuming that chat that was screen shot was on stream, which is another disrespect from the admins; conversations should not be shown on stream, so this stuff does not happen. While he is being kind, all of his words are insulting. It is like me asking you do you know how to spell check? Do you know what that little red line under "proceded" means? Let me help you. Did I insult you directly? No, but the fact that I am asking you such a basic thing probably gets under your skin which could of been the straw that broke the camels back since the tournament already indirectly stole $60. That isn't disrespect, he just wasn't allowed in the tournament. and besides, I doubt he even had to buy an account anyway. yes i had to cause missleading thread. i dont go checking tl trackers i go to the main thread read rules etc it said nothing on the whole thread about only sea citzens allowed to play
I don't actually think he bought an acc because of his other post, but you can't really blame someone for not understanding exactly what Major is saying, both quotes basically say opposite things.
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its funny how major keeps trying to cover the whole thing up and distort the truth.
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Great player, bad attitude
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Please don't tell me people are trying to defend Major. Please please... oh my fucking god people are defending him....
Next thing you know you'll have conspiracy theorists coming and riling us up even more.
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On July 18 2011 21:50 Longshank wrote:
I really thought Artosis would be able to whip this kid in to order but I suppose he's beyond salvation.
I really don't see why people are trying to bring in other members of SixJax into this. It's not their responsibility over how he acts, though the SixJax organization itself can tell him to stop acting the way he does or they'll stop sponsoring him or something.
On July 18 2011 21:52 tgun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 21:43 dabom88 wrote:
We know tgun, that's been made abundantly clear. We know you played soccer with OGS or something. How did that go btw?
Posters are still using you and moonglade as an example in arguments against Dox's reasoning for making this tourney SEA-only, but that really does not have to do anything with Major's actions. So really, you only apply to those who somehow thinks this tourney being SEA-only somehow excuses Major's actions. We didn't even get to play, it was raining really bad, so I ended up practicing all day instead. (:
I'm sure OGS got off easy because I'm sure you guys would have kicked their ass.
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The way he tries to slither his way out of this... Not exactly looking good.
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On July 18 2011 22:01 Snuggles wrote:
Please don't tell me people are trying to defend Major. Please please... oh my fucking god people are defending him....
Next thing you know you'll have conspiracy theorists coming and riling us up even more.
djWHEAT made him do it. He is trying to kill esports. lol
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If you were told that you weren't able to play in the tourny you should respect that. What if instead it was restricted to only girls would you still smurf just to play in the tourny? Would you still do it? Being told NO is something that happens in the real world. Grow up and get used to it. Getting pissed and doing whatever it takes to get what you want is immature.
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On July 18 2011 22:03 HitMonkie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 22:01 Snuggles wrote:
Please don't tell me people are trying to defend Major. Please please... oh my fucking god people are defending him....
Next thing you know you'll have conspiracy theorists coming and riling us up even more. djWHEAT made him do it. He is trying to kill esports. lol
DAYJ is trying to take over the world!
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Why does this have so many comments? :o
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