Mondragon parts with MYM - Page 8

KasdaTheEmperor

Croatia239 Posts

July 18 2011 09:16 GMT

#141

On July 18 2011 17:58 cyclone25 wrote:
Mondragon only played ~900 games this season (ladder & cgs).
He needs to practice more if he wants a good contract.

Yeah, he doesn't practice much, but when he does it, he becomes a beast

cHicKeLoR

Germany559 Posts

July 18 2011 09:24 GMT

#142

hope he finds a new good team soon! gl Mondragon!

zasghu

Sweden35 Posts

July 18 2011 09:27 GMT

#143

On July 18 2011 17:56 Jehct wrote:

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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_Road_to_Korea
Sase has been improving a lot lately. In group stages of dreamhack he went 10-1 in his group (which included Idra & Kas). Losing to Sen's beastly ZvP in the playoffs made him not stand out as much as the others, so he kinda went under the radar.

I'd definitely say he's top 3 European protoss right now, though. Socke is good but in terms of recent results he hasn't defeated any stars (though he's done really well with second at ETS). White-ra's much the same - he just hasn't been seen in many events recently.

After their return from Korea, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sase & Naniwa fighting it out for #1 in Europe regularly (overall, not just as protoss).

Sase will also be playing at Gamescon in a few weeks. Think is good time for him to shine.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

July 18 2011 09:28 GMT

#144

Ugh, became a fan of MYM and their unbeatable DotA team. They don't have the shiny names playing SCII but some solid players. Sad to see Mondragon leave but not too surprised.

gladheateher1337

164 Posts

July 18 2011 09:39 GMT

#145

On July 18 2011 17:56 Jehct wrote:

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hehe no
whire,ra,socke.naniwa,hasu and mana are better than him.if you dont believe it its ok. (hasu just won the esl tournament in spain (thorzain,socke,lucifron) and dont forget the close 1-2 against mc..TSL. etc. but of course all you guys forget everything and just the LAST thing counts and will be remembered at most.as always.thats how the brain works.
id say he comes VERY close to the top 5 but he still have to prove it.
and of course he improved a lot with even more laddergames than kas
thinking in the long run is the way to think about Top-lists.
Im too familiar with the european scene
if sase will reach a final of a bigger tournament THEN i could eventually change my opinion
"sase and DH".1 thing and voila hes in your toplist?oh dear.
as i said i will wait for IEM cologne and korea

sase in an established top 3/5list in the future? of course... why not. but we still live in the presence.
im wishing him all the best

Mr.Brightside

Australia317 Posts

July 18 2011 09:46 GMT

#146

Sase will become a monster, just you wait.

BoBjump

14 Posts

July 18 2011 10:17 GMT

#147

FnaticMondragon!! Mondragon&Sen <3! :DD

enzym

Germany1034 Posts

July 18 2011 10:51 GMT

#148

On July 18 2011 07:13 Skiba wrote:
i got the same feeling for mym that i have for sk-gaming.
both clans were very passiv during the beta/release stage of sc2 and struggling now to get top level players into their roster.

That's not true. While MYM wasn't as successful with their players as other teams, they were not inactive, not even during the beta, as SK was.

I think much of it is due to their players not being involved in winning tournaments as much, because they did what SK didn't do: picking up players who hadn't established themselves in SC2 yet (SaSe, ParanOid, XlorD, Mondragon and the two new ones I didn't even know about).
But they did have Artosis, GARIMTO and ClouD since very early on.
I think they had DeMusliM and NaNiWa too at one point, but I don't remember well at all lol.

Furthermore SaSe and XlorD are highly successful, just not in big stage tournaments, with SaSe even winning the Rakaka.se road to Korea and heading over there, and Mondragon making a good showing in the TSL despite losing to CrunCher, which wasn't a freewin for CrunCher either.

They're not up there yet and arguably could have done better, or at least have had more luck with their players. But Mondragon as well as XlorD weren't focusing on gaming in the beginning at all, for example.

On July 18 2011 07:21 Lambertus wrote:
And also Mondi stated on his Facebook, that he will pretty sure join another eSports-Team soon. Ah, but!!! As a Manager and not a player!

Mondi to SK to repair their reputation? They have reis, but that would be the biggest derp in a while.

bITt.mAN

Switzerland3693 Posts

July 18 2011 10:55 GMT

#149

I can never get over ToT)
My old economics notes even have ToT) written instead of TOT for Terms of Trade; ya just can't change that much to be part of mYm forever.

jimmy8609585

Canada89 Posts

July 18 2011 11:08 GMT

#150

I'm guessing that so many people underestimate Sase because he did not have a good ending at Dreamhack?Where he got absolutely ripped apart by Sen.

vdale

Germany1173 Posts

July 18 2011 11:15 GMT

#151

On July 18 2011 17:56 Jehct wrote:

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Sase is probably top 3 PvP in Europe, but definitely not top 3 protoss as long as he doesn't have better results.

At Dreamhack Socke managed to place first in a much harder group (BratOK, Morrow, Ret, Dimaga, Nightend and DieStar compared to Idra, Kas, Naama, Grubby, Merz) and he lost to Huk who won the tournament. White-Ra lost to the second place finisher. HasuObs advanced in a group with JulyZerg, Thorzain, Sjow and Machine and lost to Bomber, who defeated all protoss players he faced (MC, Mana, HasuObs).

Homestory Cup:
Sase (lost to XlorD in the WB and Thorzain in the LB)
Socke (lost to Idra in the WB and White-Ra in the LB)
White-Ra (lost to Adelscott in the WB and Stephano in the LB)
HasuObs (lost to Thorzain in the group and didn't advance out of his group with 2-1)

Edit: I'm not saying that Sase can't become a top 3 protoss. He plays a lot and could improve faster than the other protoss players.

cYaN

Norway3322 Posts

July 18 2011 11:34 GMT

#152

hmmm, sounded like he's set on another team already... and he usually sticks around some other tots. So that's fnatic with Sen, EG with iNcontrol, cloud left behind in mym, and then haypro, ret in liquid.. so liquid doesn't seem so far fetched i think

Hehe

Acer.ParanOid

Poland133 Posts

July 18 2011 11:52 GMT

#153

I bet he wants ToT back, with him being exclusively manager this time

SmoKim

Denmark10305 Posts

July 18 2011 11:54 GMT

#154

On July 18 2011 20:52 ToT)ParanOid( wrote:
I bet he wants ToT back, with him being exclusively manager this time

And deal with polish noob zerg once again o.o? poor guy!!!

Acer.ParanOid

Poland133 Posts

July 18 2011 12:01 GMT

#155

On July 18 2011 20:54 SmoKim wrote:

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And deal with polish noob zerg once again o.o? poor guy!!!

He doesnt want me in his new team, the reason was stated before: Im too bad T,.T! It feels even worse, I've been in ToT for few years, and now he dumps me like that...

Santiago4ever

Sweden299 Posts

July 18 2011 12:49 GMT

#156

I bet he'd have guys flocking to his banner in seconds if he did recreate ToT, they would join the proud tradition of ToT players who doesn't practice but still tears the scene up :D

sVnteen

Germany2238 Posts

July 18 2011 12:52 GMT

#157

On July 18 2011 07:18 Plexa wrote:

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Dno what you're talking about... Xlord is one of the scariest Zergs atm and Cloud has always been close to the top (good runs in EPS etc). Plus SaSe will be playing in Code A soon.

exactly man
(and Xlord is still in school even if im not mistaken)

but on the issue of mondi not playing in tours...
i srsly dont know why
he is always like in the top 50 of GM when i look him up but you dont hear anything of him from any big tours (or even small ones)
maybe he is busy with studying though ...

purecarnagge

719 Posts

July 18 2011 13:44 GMT

#158

It takes $$$ to attend tournaments, and if the support wasn't there for it then its not mondragons fault. I also believe he was attending classes as well which made training for sc2 problematic at one point for him...not sure if that is true today or not.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

July 18 2011 13:51 GMT

#159

On July 18 2011 21:01 ToT)ParanOid( wrote:

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He doesnt want me in his new team, the reason was stated before: Im too bad T,.T! It feels even worse, I've been in ToT for few years, and now he dumps me like that...

Stop talking shit Rafa D: you know Dissy loves you, and so does everyone else :D and we all want ToT back. I hope it becomes reality.

HorstSchlemmer

Germany114 Posts

July 18 2011 13:57 GMT

#160

The old ToT Homepage seems to have changed, at least you can't see anything when you are not logged in. Some weeks ago you could still see the news...

A Return of ToT would be so awesome...

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