EPTcArn : Road to the GSL - Page 5
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RmoteCntrld
United States596 Posts
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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Choboo
Sweden2088 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:10 jenzebubble wrote: I am failing to name, in my head, 10-12 foreigner players that could qualify for Code A at the moment. Do you mean with an extended stay and after multiple attempts? DRG is considered by many to be a very skilled player and even he has had difficulty qualifying for Code A. It's brutal, man. Naniwa, Thorzain, Huk, Nerchio, Sen, Whitera, Major, Hasuobs, Stephano and Dimaga all have a decent shot at making the qualifiers. Of course some won't if they have to face MMA/DRG but they all could do it imo | ||
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Castrophy
United States232 Posts
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:09 Djagulingu wrote: Thing is, he got further than entire FXO team, including Oz and qxc, in the last code A qualifiers. After saying this, I have to ask one thing: Would I be an ass if I ask the definition of "being good" from you? Any definition that puts tgun, slog, moonan in the category "good" would put cArn in the same category easily. It's a general statement that applies here He didn't specifically call someone out of not being good You could be the hardest working player in the world, it still doesn't mean you are the best nor deserving of anything. You can be putting more hours practicing basketball than anyone, doesn't mean you deserve a spot on an NBA team just because of that. But yeah, I'm rooting for cArn to qualify for code A one day but not by pity invites. Could be a great cinderella story (or Rudy story) if he does. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Mr Tambourine Man
Netherlands190 Posts
Does carn know you are asking this? Because if it were me I'd really not appreciate it. Imagine if you are close to reaching your dream goal. You worked hard on it for months and made sacrifices for it. You probably see people around you in the same struggle. You make it further and further and just when you think you really have a good shot at it and really believe in yourself, you get handed a free-pass just because you are a foreigner... I know I'd probably not accept that. Your his friend, do you not believe he can reach his goals? Make a fan club for him, or support him in another way, but don't try to get him some sort of shortcut. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:07 PartyBiscuit wrote: Carn really isn't that great of a player. Yes, I've been aware of him and his journey since the first video, but watching his stream quite a bit and his play, it's mostly nothing stellar. Based on his skill he would probably be a low-mid range EU Terran. I've watched a lot of streams, especially of EU Terrans, and I completely disagree. There's some game sense and build refinement issues, but his mechanics are far better than most foreigners and he's a clever player. Keep in mind he hasn't had training partners while there, which was an advantage afforded to just about every other foreigner who has tried to qualify. Even IdrA could toss around ideas with plenty of people. At the very least, I'm sure cArn can successfully execute a proxy 2 rax all-in against a 1rax expand. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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RmoteCntrld
United States596 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:07 PartyBiscuit wrote: Carn really isn't that great of a player. Yes, I've been aware of him and his journey since the first video, but watching his stream quite a bit and his play, it's mostly nothing stellar. Based on his skill he would probably be a low-mid range EU Terran. Those citing that he was 1 Bo3 away from qualifying, I'm pretty sure that was just one season and I don't think cArn has ever made the actual final round of a Qualifier (being 1 Bo3 away means 2nd last round). With that he absolutely deserves respect (since all of FXO were comparatively destroyed - HOWEVER, you should take into account that he has played there for almost 9 months, he is much more familiar to Korean play than the others who were there for a week), but I don't think he's ever done anything that even remotely indicates he has some hidden talent just getting unlucky (i.e. DRG). I applaud his dedication, I don't think there's really anybody out there he could argue he gives his best, but whether or not he deserves "a pity" Code A offer to likely get 0-2'd, I'm skeptical. All other foreigners (Glade, Ret, Huk, Haypro), with the exception for maybe Sheth were given their spot based on some merit of skill. Even then Sheth is at least a "famous" player. P.S. Yes, he's on a team now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242468 making it further and further in the code A qualifiers until last qualifications where he was 1 best of 3 away from code A Read the bold please. | ||
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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rafaliusz
Poland482 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:31 Mr Tambourine Man wrote: Hey OP Does carn know you are asking this? Because if it were me I'd really not appreciate it. Imagine if you are close to reaching your dream goal. You worked hard on it for months and made sacrifices for it. You probably see people around you in the same struggle. You make it further and further and just when you think you really have a good shot at it and really believe in yourself, you get handed a free-pass just because you are a foreigner... I know I'd probably not accept that. Your his friend, do you not believe he can reach his goals? Make a fan club for him, or support him in another way, but don't try to get him some sort of shortcut. I see nothing wrong in giving a Code A spot to a skilled foreigner considering that in every big foreign tournament shitloads of koreans get free seeds. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:31 Mr Tambourine Man wrote: Hey OP Does carn know you are asking this? Because if it were me I'd really not appreciate it. Imagine if you are close to reaching your dream goal. You worked hard on it for months and made sacrifices for it. You probably see people around you in the same struggle. You make it further and further and just when you think you really have a good shot at it and really believe in yourself, you get handed a free-pass just because you are a foreigner... I know I'd probably not accept that. Your his friend, do you not believe he can reach his goals? Make a fan club for him, or support him in another way, but don't try to get him some sort of shortcut. That's how life works, opportunities often arise when you're not looking for them. If I was cArn I would be motivated after seeing fan support such as this. | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
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Blaine
Italy188 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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Tuxedo
United States134 Posts
But don't give up man.. if you make it one day it would be fantastic grounds for a movie or documentary or something. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
Don't give up cArn. cArn fighting! | ||
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sOda~
United Kingdom441 Posts
if he was one bo3 away from code a in the last qualifier that's pretty sick right? | ||
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