On July 16 2011 05:43 Naniwa wrote:
effort doesnt equal results nor being good.
effort doesnt equal results nor being good.
must explain why you're an ass with mediocre results t.t
social incapabilities HWAIGHTINGG
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Cite
Australia251 Posts
On July 16 2011 05:43 Naniwa wrote: effort doesnt equal results nor being good. must explain why you're an ass with mediocre results t.t social incapabilities HWAIGHTINGG User was warned for this post | ||
hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
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justdweezil
United States186 Posts
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
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AnalThermometer
Vatican City State334 Posts
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Stark1
Canada120 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:02 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2011 06:46 Stark1 wrote: Saw him play recently in the Korean weekly tourney, and he was utter garbage. There's a good reason no one has mentioned him in the what, 9 months he's been there? Any reasonable person would have packed up and gone home to play in Euro tourneys long ago. He has played Tassadar and Puzzle in those tournaments, two of the hottest Protoss' in Korea, and both current Code A finalists. Judging him off those games is far from fair. I wasn't judging him based on his opponents; he was just plain bad, especially for someone who's been in Korea since GSL1. | ||
SnowFantasy
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untilMay
Korea (South)190 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:46 Stark1 wrote: Saw him play recently in the Korean weekly tourney, and he was utter garbage. There's a good reason no one has mentioned him in the what, 9 months he's been there? Any reasonable person would have packed up and gone home to play in Euro tourneys long ago. He's played a lot of top Code A players during those qualifiers, I'd say he's anything but garbage. Also I think it's people with the same attitude as you that crush other peoples dreams. Where is it your place to tell someone who and what they are. cArn is a good terran player trying to make it in korea and you're telling him to quit. How would you feel if you had a dream to make it in some foreign country with everything against you and then they said "Oh ur balls quit now and go to EU and win" | ||
Frequencyy
United States344 Posts
On July 16 2011 05:44 kcaz wrote: Thats a really good idea /sarcasm. Not to be mean, but I'd rather GOM give the spot to someone deserving rather than someone out of pity. I'd much much much rather see DRG in Code A (A ZERG that is one of the best players in the world) than Carn (A TERRAN). Just because he's a foreigner, doesn't mean he should get a spot in Code A. You're being an asshole right now, this guy entered Korea and has been trying to get through the extremely rigorous Code A tournament and obviously he is Code A material if he recently missed just 1 game from being in Code A. The OP isn't even saying to just give cArn the spot, he's saying to consider it. DRG is doing fine on his own and cArn after all the months upon months he has been in Korea isn't even allowed back into the GOM house. | ||
hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
However, neither are and should ever be criteria for giving someone a spot. cArn has yet to prove himself. Just because he spent a great deal of time in Korea doesn't mean he's anywhere near the level at which he could be competitive in Code A. And honestly, if we're playing the game of fairness, there should be no gifted spots. Everyone should have to earn them just like Koreans do. | ||
hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:18 Frequencyy wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2011 05:44 kcaz wrote: Thats a really good idea /sarcasm. Not to be mean, but I'd rather GOM give the spot to someone deserving rather than someone out of pity. I'd much much much rather see DRG in Code A (A ZERG that is one of the best players in the world) than Carn (A TERRAN). Just because he's a foreigner, doesn't mean he should get a spot in Code A. You're being an asshole right now, this guy entered Korea and has been trying to get through the extremely rigorous Code A tournament and obviously he is Code A material if he recently missed just 1 game from being in Code A. The OP isn't even saying to just give cArn the spot, he's saying to consider it. DRG is doing fine on his own and cArn after all the months upon months he has been in Korea isn't even allowed back into the GOM house. But he hasn't really shown anything for all his time in Korea and GOM was essentially footing his housing expenses for nothing in return. Until he can show himself to be a competitive enough player, there is no reason anyone would have the slightest expectation for GOM to give him any more free stuff. It's great that he spent so much time in Korea, but that alone is completely meaningless. | ||
goswser
United States3546 Posts
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UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
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nxiety
United States36 Posts
I know cArn was pursuing his dream, but maybe it's time he went home. In all honesty, it was quite foolish to just show up in South Korea with no real plans and no idea where he would stay or how he would get by day to day. Using what he's learned in Korea I'm sure he could have at least moderate success in the foreigner scene. It's amazing in and of itself that GOM gave him a place to live while they did. Regardless, whatever happens in the end, I hope it works out for him. | ||
ruxin
United States183 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
If he's really skilled enough to almost make code A, he'd easily be able to hold his own in any foreign tournament. | ||
PiLoKo
Mexico144 Posts
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oBlade
United States5589 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:10 Otolia wrote: It's funny how people trust the korean way. What will you do when he will come back in EU and get crushed ? On a side note : Stop praising him, stupidity (yes it's stupid and selfish to leave your friends and your family behind to pursue your dream) should not be encourage. We don't need martyr, we need models. Being reckless and failing or being reckless and being offered a Coda A spot isn't what the scene needs. It needs more partnership, more joint trainings and more regional qualifiers. I'm sure his private life is fine, it'd be more selfish if his friends and family tried to give him a cold shoulder for doing what he wanted. And if he's as dedicated or disciplined as this thread makes him out to be, he already is a model. Circle jerking with your team and getting lucky in a few tournaments isn't admirable. But you can have a future if you're really dedicated and really love what you're doing. If YellOw has taught us anything it's that not making it a few times isn't grounds for giving up, but rather you should stick with it and let it become a part of you. | ||
namste
Finland2292 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:11 Cite wrote: must explain why you're an ass with mediocre results t.t social incapabilities HWAIGHTINGG YEAAH Exactly Naniwa, go win a major event without dropping a single game before coming here to say shit like that!!! Oh wait.. :D On the topic, there has been a lot of charity cases for GSL Code A spots in the past; ie. Haypro and Moonglade. Completely undeserved spots but yet they were given a chance. But that was a long time ago, now the code A competition is really fierce, it takes a lot of skill and luck to even get into Code A. Sick players like TheStc, DongRaeGu, Yonghwa, Seed etc. have failed to qualify. So those spots shouldn't be handed to anyone out of charity. They should be earned via getting through the qualifiers. | ||
aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:11 Cite wrote: must explain why you're an ass with mediocre results t.t social incapabilities HWAIGHTINGG What? mediocre results? 1: MLG 2: TSL 2: Homestory 2: Road to korea etc .... | ||
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