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Cite
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 22:12:03
July 15 2011 22:11 GMT
#121
On July 16 2011 05:43 Naniwa wrote:
effort doesnt equal results nor being good.


must explain why you're an ass with mediocre results t.t

social incapabilities HWAIGHTINGG


User was warned for this post
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
July 15 2011 22:11 GMT
#122
It's not all sad. If he can compete with the Koreans he's going to tear up the foreign tournaments once he comes back.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
justdweezil
Profile Joined July 2009
United States186 Posts
July 15 2011 22:12 GMT
#123
Best of luck to cArn, and all those that aspire to GSL.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
July 15 2011 22:12 GMT
#124
carn is in a tough spot. he's playing in the hardest sc2 environment only. Why not just go to a foreign event and attempt to do well so he can get a spot in Code A without having to hope to make it through one of the hardest tournaments in sc2? Either that or just leave korea and participate elsewhere with all of the knowledge/skill gained from training in korea for so long.
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AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
July 15 2011 22:13 GMT
#125
I've always pictured cArn as the Bear Grylls of SC2. Flys out to a foreign land with just a backpack and a copy of starcraft to carve a path of his own, with no one truly sure how he's managing to survive. Possibly foraging through the leftovers of korean resturants and making a bed wherever he can on his quest to become the best there ever was. Perhaps its time for him to drink his own piss.
Stark1
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 15 2011 22:14 GMT
#126
On July 16 2011 07:02 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 06:46 Stark1 wrote:
Saw him play recently in the Korean weekly tourney, and he was utter garbage. There's a good reason no one has mentioned him in the what, 9 months he's been there? Any reasonable person would have packed up and gone home to play in Euro tourneys long ago.


He has played Tassadar and Puzzle in those tournaments, two of the hottest Protoss' in Korea, and both current Code A finalists. Judging him off those games is far from fair.


I wasn't judging him based on his opponents; he was just plain bad, especially for someone who's been in Korea since GSL1.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
July 15 2011 22:15 GMT
#127
Good players make their opponents look awful though so dunno
untilMay
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)190 Posts
July 15 2011 22:18 GMT
#128
On July 16 2011 06:46 Stark1 wrote:
Saw him play recently in the Korean weekly tourney, and he was utter garbage. There's a good reason no one has mentioned him in the what, 9 months he's been there? Any reasonable person would have packed up and gone home to play in Euro tourneys long ago.

He's played a lot of top Code A players during those qualifiers, I'd say he's anything but garbage. Also I think it's people with the same attitude as you that crush other peoples dreams. Where is it your place to tell someone who and what they are. cArn is a good terran player trying to make it in korea and you're telling him to quit. How would you feel if you had a dream to make it in some foreign country with everything against you and then they said "Oh ur balls quit now and go to EU and win"
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Frequencyy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States344 Posts
July 15 2011 22:18 GMT
#129
On July 16 2011 05:44 kcaz wrote:
Thats a really good idea /sarcasm. Not to be mean, but I'd rather GOM give the spot to someone deserving rather than someone out of pity. I'd much much much rather see DRG in Code A (A ZERG that is one of the best players in the world) than Carn (A TERRAN). Just because he's a foreigner, doesn't mean he should get a spot in Code A.

You're being an asshole right now, this guy entered Korea and has been trying to get through the extremely rigorous Code A tournament and obviously he is Code A material if he recently missed just 1 game from being in Code A. The OP isn't even saying to just give cArn the spot, he's saying to consider it. DRG is doing fine on his own and cArn after all the months upon months he has been in Korea isn't even allowed back into the GOM house.
You will not do incredible things without an incredible dream
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
July 15 2011 22:19 GMT
#130
He does not deserve a Code A spot. Dedication is great. So is sacrifice. I applaud him for both.

However, neither are and should ever be criteria for giving someone a spot. cArn has yet to prove himself. Just because he spent a great deal of time in Korea doesn't mean he's anywhere near the level at which he could be competitive in Code A.

And honestly, if we're playing the game of fairness, there should be no gifted spots. Everyone should have to earn them just like Koreans do.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
July 15 2011 22:22 GMT
#131
On July 16 2011 07:18 Frequencyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 05:44 kcaz wrote:
Thats a really good idea /sarcasm. Not to be mean, but I'd rather GOM give the spot to someone deserving rather than someone out of pity. I'd much much much rather see DRG in Code A (A ZERG that is one of the best players in the world) than Carn (A TERRAN). Just because he's a foreigner, doesn't mean he should get a spot in Code A.

You're being an asshole right now, this guy entered Korea and has been trying to get through the extremely rigorous Code A tournament and obviously he is Code A material if he recently missed just 1 game from being in Code A. The OP isn't even saying to just give cArn the spot, he's saying to consider it. DRG is doing fine on his own and cArn after all the months upon months he has been in Korea isn't even allowed back into the GOM house.

But he hasn't really shown anything for all his time in Korea and GOM was essentially footing his housing expenses for nothing in return. Until he can show himself to be a competitive enough player, there is no reason anyone would have the slightest expectation for GOM to give him any more free stuff.

It's great that he spent so much time in Korea, but that alone is completely meaningless.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
July 15 2011 22:22 GMT
#132
Weird that he can get that far in the qualifiers, apparently be quite good, but hasn't been picked up by any team, either foreigner or Korean.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
July 15 2011 22:22 GMT
#133
Well hopefully with Sheth being state-side again, they can at least find space for him in the GOM House soon.
nxiety
Profile Joined July 2011
United States36 Posts
July 15 2011 22:26 GMT
#134
If I'm thinking of the same person, I remember seeing cArn in some video right around the first season of GSL, seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Better players have traveled to South Korea and left within a months time because they're unable to handle a new country whose language they do not speak and the other factors that are indeed hard to overcome, such as missing family and friends.

I know cArn was pursuing his dream, but maybe it's time he went home. In all honesty, it was quite foolish to just show up in South Korea with no real plans and no idea where he would stay or how he would get by day to day. Using what he's learned in Korea I'm sure he could have at least moderate success in the foreigner scene.

It's amazing in and of itself that GOM gave him a place to live while they did. Regardless, whatever happens in the end, I hope it works out for him.
ruxin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States183 Posts
July 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#135
should set up a cArn charity fund
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#136
I think he'd almost have a better shot leaving to participate in foreign tournaments, and then getting invited. Making it into code A legit is near impossible, as DongRaeGue could attest. o.o lol

If he's really skilled enough to almost make code A, he'd easily be able to hold his own in any foreign tournament.
PiLoKo
Profile Joined January 2011
Mexico144 Posts
July 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#137
He doesn`t deserve it. Its sad but all the effort is meaningless and he should recieve absolutly nothing out of pity.
I like to troll in-game :)
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6495 Posts
July 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#138
On July 16 2011 07:10 Otolia wrote:
It's funny how people trust the korean way. What will you do when he will come back in EU and get crushed ?

On a side note : Stop praising him, stupidity (yes it's stupid and selfish to leave your friends and your family behind to pursue your dream) should not be encourage. We don't need martyr, we need models. Being reckless and failing or being reckless and being offered a Coda A spot isn't what the scene needs. It needs more partnership, more joint trainings and more regional qualifiers.

I'm sure his private life is fine, it'd be more selfish if his friends and family tried to give him a cold shoulder for doing what he wanted. And if he's as dedicated or disciplined as this thread makes him out to be, he already is a model. Circle jerking with your team and getting lucky in a few tournaments isn't admirable. But you can have a future if you're really dedicated and really love what you're doing. If YellOw has taught us anything it's that not making it a few times isn't grounds for giving up, but rather you should stick with it and let it become a part of you.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 22:34:33
July 15 2011 22:30 GMT
#139
On July 16 2011 07:11 Cite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 05:43 Naniwa wrote:
effort doesnt equal results nor being good.


must explain why you're an ass with mediocre results t.t

social incapabilities HWAIGHTINGG


YEAAH Exactly Naniwa, go win a major event without dropping a single game before coming here to say shit like that!!! Oh wait.. :D


On the topic, there has been a lot of charity cases for GSL Code A spots in the past; ie. Haypro and Moonglade. Completely undeserved spots but yet they were given a chance. But that was a long time ago, now the code A competition is really fierce, it takes a lot of skill and luck to even get into Code A. Sick players like TheStc, DongRaeGu, Yonghwa, Seed etc. have failed to qualify. So those spots shouldn't be handed to anyone out of charity. They should be earned via getting through the qualifiers.
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aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
July 15 2011 22:34 GMT
#140
On July 16 2011 07:11 Cite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 05:43 Naniwa wrote:
effort doesnt equal results nor being good.


must explain why you're an ass with mediocre results t.t

social incapabilities HWAIGHTINGG



What? mediocre results?


1: MLG
2: TSL
2: Homestory
2: Road to korea

etc


....
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
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