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On July 14 2011 22:49 KentHenry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:37 Olinim wrote:On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
On a side note: I hope she pwns Idra, Destiny and any other cocky player. I ♥ Idra, even though he's cocky. ^^ ...Why so sexist? Just being honest. lol
Well you are honestly stupid I'll grant you that.
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Soo...shes gonna live and train in a team house with 10 guys? Nice 
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On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
On a side note: I hope she pwns Idra, Destiny and any other cocky player. I ♥ Idra, even though he's cocky. ^^
its a scientific fact that men tend to be more athletic than women, but this is e-sports, and from what i heard women handle multitasking much better
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On July 14 2011 22:51 vojnik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
On a side note: I hope she pwns Idra, Destiny and any other cocky player. I ♥ Idra, even though he's cocky. ^^ its a scientific fact that men tend to be more athletic than women, but this is e-sports, and from what i heard women handle multitasking much better
A Tossgirl 2.0 story incoming, as soon as (if) IdrA beats her in a foreign tournament.
"Idra - making girls cry!"
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SlayerS has another Terran player. It's a tarp o.O
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Hope she can put on a fight or it will be embarrassing for SlayerS.
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On July 14 2011 22:51 vojnik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
On a side note: I hope she pwns Idra, Destiny and any other cocky player. I ♥ Idra, even though he's cocky. ^^ its a scientific fact that men tend to be more athletic than women, but this is e-sports, and from what i heard women handle multitasking much better
Perhaps, but they aren't really known for their killer instinct either. A much more important attribute IMO.
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Well this is somewhat exciting news ! :-)
Hope that she is a serious recruit and will be fielded as a serious player. But it's SlayerS - so I recon the answers are yes and yes. Hope she represents well!
p.s. ... now thats a really cute girl! I hope this person will make e-Sports more sensible and attractive to females around the world.
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On July 14 2011 22:39 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:29 Phaded wrote:On July 14 2011 22:18 DonkeyShot wrote:On July 14 2011 22:04 Novalisk wrote:On July 14 2011 22:02 DonkeyShot wrote:On July 14 2011 21:03 CaptainTwig wrote:On July 14 2011 20:11 DonkeyShot wrote:
Really questionable decision. It's incredible that this gets so much positive feedback.
Regardless of how well she can actually play, this is clearly a publicity move. That in itself wouldn't be too bad but:
1. It appears like a demonstration of equal opportunities and emancipation while
2. subversively reinforcing chauvinistic stereotypes by associating womens success with their appeal to men.
So it's not just sexist, it even disguises itself as the opposite. It puts womens success at the mercy of their appeal towards men, which is one of the most subtle and unfair prejudices towards women. And you cannot tell me that her looks and appeal to men did not play a role in her recruitment. They could have picked thousands of other girls. And if one tries to argue that one has to pick from the thousands of girls by some aspect, then making it her looks reinforces the picture of the dominance of male interest whether you want it or not.
The people here saying that her looks are not important are making it even worse, because they are acting as if this issue did not actually exist. Even if she plays well, it still reinforces the stereotype that only women who appeal to men can be successful. And the same is true for TossGirl.
You should rethink your enthusiasm. 'sexism' I think thats taking it a bit far. claiming this is a scheme to excisise womens rights publicly, I would say is closer to sexism my friend She was picked to appeal to men? aruable She was picked for her looks? Yes she was. Jessica publicly announced it! Jessica publicly announced it. Doesn't that mean anything to you? for me personally it's just another reminder that Korea isn't England or American or Germany etc. You need to apply some culteral context to the sitaution as I said earlier Let's not forget Korea is on the other side of the planet, being attractive in Korea is a big deal, seeking beauty isn't looked at as being something shallow or insubstantial. Cultural context is important, I agree, but it is not an excuse. It's hard to argue for cultural relativism in a globalised world and the starcraft scene of wich this is a part goes far beyond Korea. In particular, this picture is not just presented to Koreans but to us as well und is thus not just a part of their culture but of ours as well. I do not see good looks as virtuous because I do not think it is a conscious decision to look good and if Koreans think otherwise (I trust you on this) then I have to disagree because I do not see how these values could exist independently of each other today. Also, I do not have a problem with "schemes" to exercise womens rights publicly. My problem is that this appears to be one while it is actually reinforcing unfair rolemodels. On July 14 2011 21:15 Novalisk wrote:
Sex appeal isn't the only appeal. If a grandmaster girl came around, men would like her even if she wasn't a looker. That's not the point. It's about putting pretty girls in positions where Grandmasters girls are supposed to be. Wait, you honestly think there are grandmaster girls that aren't getting into teams because they're not pretty enough? No, that's not what I think. If there were Grandmasters girls (i don't know if there are, it seems not) I assume they could be there. But that's entirely hypothetical. It's the fact that the only girls that are there are pretty. And that seems like a very distorted picture. according to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242083this player is a chick http://sc2ranks.com/tw/481504/luway 22 won, 5 lost, ratio of 81.48% Not much of a record. I didn't realize you could become GM with so few games.
I doubt it's her, after all it's an account from Taiwan while she is Korean.
I can't find a probable account on the Korean ladder though, maybe http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2590796/TimeOfEVE ?
Well, who knows, maybe she doesn't even play ladder...
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On July 14 2011 22:50 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:49 KentHenry wrote:On July 14 2011 22:37 Olinim wrote:On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
On a side note: I hope she pwns Idra, Destiny and any other cocky player. I ♥ Idra, even though he's cocky. ^^ ...Why so sexist? Just being honest. lol Well you are honestly stupid I'll grant you that.
U mad??? Tossgirl didn't really do to well in Brood War, it's not common for girls to do well e sports. Also there's no need to insult me...
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That this happened after NASL,I have to attribute it to the Lindsey Sporrer Effect. She's proving once again how great she is for esports by opening doors for players like Slayers_Eve
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On July 14 2011 22:54 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:39 Zzoram wrote:On July 14 2011 22:29 Phaded wrote:On July 14 2011 22:18 DonkeyShot wrote:On July 14 2011 22:04 Novalisk wrote:On July 14 2011 22:02 DonkeyShot wrote:On July 14 2011 21:03 CaptainTwig wrote:On July 14 2011 20:11 DonkeyShot wrote:
Really questionable decision. It's incredible that this gets so much positive feedback.
Regardless of how well she can actually play, this is clearly a publicity move. That in itself wouldn't be too bad but:
1. It appears like a demonstration of equal opportunities and emancipation while
2. subversively reinforcing chauvinistic stereotypes by associating womens success with their appeal to men.
So it's not just sexist, it even disguises itself as the opposite. It puts womens success at the mercy of their appeal towards men, which is one of the most subtle and unfair prejudices towards women. And you cannot tell me that her looks and appeal to men did not play a role in her recruitment. They could have picked thousands of other girls. And if one tries to argue that one has to pick from the thousands of girls by some aspect, then making it her looks reinforces the picture of the dominance of male interest whether you want it or not.
The people here saying that her looks are not important are making it even worse, because they are acting as if this issue did not actually exist. Even if she plays well, it still reinforces the stereotype that only women who appeal to men can be successful. And the same is true for TossGirl.
You should rethink your enthusiasm. 'sexism' I think thats taking it a bit far. claiming this is a scheme to excisise womens rights publicly, I would say is closer to sexism my friend She was picked to appeal to men? aruable She was picked for her looks? Yes she was. Jessica publicly announced it! Jessica publicly announced it. Doesn't that mean anything to you? for me personally it's just another reminder that Korea isn't England or American or Germany etc. You need to apply some culteral context to the sitaution as I said earlier Let's not forget Korea is on the other side of the planet, being attractive in Korea is a big deal, seeking beauty isn't looked at as being something shallow or insubstantial. Cultural context is important, I agree, but it is not an excuse. It's hard to argue for cultural relativism in a globalised world and the starcraft scene of wich this is a part goes far beyond Korea. In particular, this picture is not just presented to Koreans but to us as well und is thus not just a part of their culture but of ours as well. I do not see good looks as virtuous because I do not think it is a conscious decision to look good and if Koreans think otherwise (I trust you on this) then I have to disagree because I do not see how these values could exist independently of each other today. Also, I do not have a problem with "schemes" to exercise womens rights publicly. My problem is that this appears to be one while it is actually reinforcing unfair rolemodels. On July 14 2011 21:15 Novalisk wrote:
Sex appeal isn't the only appeal. If a grandmaster girl came around, men would like her even if she wasn't a looker. That's not the point. It's about putting pretty girls in positions where Grandmasters girls are supposed to be. Wait, you honestly think there are grandmaster girls that aren't getting into teams because they're not pretty enough? No, that's not what I think. If there were Grandmasters girls (i don't know if there are, it seems not) I assume they could be there. But that's entirely hypothetical. It's the fact that the only girls that are there are pretty. And that seems like a very distorted picture. according to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=242083this player is a chick http://sc2ranks.com/tw/481504/luway 22 won, 5 lost, ratio of 81.48% Not much of a record. I didn't realize you could become GM with so few games. I doubt it's her, after all it's an account from Taiwan while she is Korean. I can't find a probable account on the Korean ladder though, maybe http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2590796/TimeOfEVE ? Well, who knows, maybe she doesn't even play ladder...
This would seem likely. That rank is good enough to get you on a pro team, if you have other things you can bring to the table(in this case, being a female with good looks).
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Well, i'm all for it. I want to see her make IdrA cry in this go-around.
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On July 14 2011 19:51 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 19:37 spaZzNx-` wrote:On July 14 2011 19:29 diddLY wrote:On July 14 2011 19:22 ooni wrote:
Time for Lost in Translation TL Edition number CCCIIXIV
Doesn't say her looks is the reason Jessica selected her...
It is sort of like
Jessica thought highly of her skill and looks, she personally selected her. I agree with this. At the end of the day they are building a team to win games, not to make a calendar. I think people are just looking too far into it. I wouldn't mind a Team Slayers calender ^^ I'd pay the shit out of that calendar to have Boxer MMA and Ryung on my wall And Eve I guess But mostly Boxer
Boxer and Cella, that calendar would be amazing!
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On July 14 2011 22:55 KentHenry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:50 Olinim wrote:On July 14 2011 22:49 KentHenry wrote:On July 14 2011 22:37 Olinim wrote:On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
On a side note: I hope she pwns Idra, Destiny and any other cocky player. I ♥ Idra, even though he's cocky. ^^ ...Why so sexist? Just being honest. lol Well you are honestly stupid I'll grant you that. U mad??? Tossgirl didn't really do to well in Brood War, it's not common for girls to do well e sports. Also there's no need to insult me...
There's no need for you to insult an entire gender based on the performance of a small percentage who tried.
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this is healing ESPORTS, I hope she'll get a good level at the game (meaning enough to compete in Code A, she probably already own us all)
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On July 14 2011 22:55 KentHenry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 22:50 Olinim wrote:On July 14 2011 22:49 KentHenry wrote:On July 14 2011 22:37 Olinim wrote:On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
On a side note: I hope she pwns Idra, Destiny and any other cocky player. I ♥ Idra, even though he's cocky. ^^ ...Why so sexist? Just being honest. lol Well you are honestly stupid I'll grant you that. U mad??? Tossgirl didn't really do to well in Brood War, it's not common for girls to do well e sports. Also there's no need to insult me...
Your post contained overt misogynistic tones and had no place in the thread. "All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do." I do feel the need to insult you because your stupidity and misogyny is insulting to me. Yes biologically men tend to be more athletic than women but for one it's completely irrelevant in e-sports, and second that doesn't mean "men will always be superior at everything they do." Your views are absolutely deplorable.
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That's quite a pleasant surprise! Slayers securing their place as my favorite team it appears.
Can't wait to see he play and hopefully beat someone. The look on their face after being crushed by a female progamer will be priceless! lol
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That is a really great news. I love it how females get involved too in esports. It would be so baller if she wins code a/s.
Btw. Boxer is awsome. I am sure he was involved in that decision too. Thats one of the moments i am proud to be a part of esport (even though i am noob) cause there is no seperation between male and female...everyone can play. ;D
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On July 14 2011 22:36 KentHenry wrote:
All I'm going to say is that men will always be superior to women at things they do, for example sports. I'm not saying women don't contribute anything to society, it's just that men tend to be more athletic and superior at almost everything. Good luck to her though, Eve fighting!!!
Why can he post that without being banned or at least warned? Just wow...
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