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MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
July 10 2011 21:31 GMT
#761
good crowd in NASL like MLG or dreamhack ?
kaisuki
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia68 Posts
July 10 2011 21:34 GMT
#762
I get the feeling that people won't be satisfied with any event unless they get the following:

Casters: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
MC: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Interviewers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Event Organizers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Ticket Vendors: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Bo7 in Round of 16, Bo13 in Round of 8, Bo19 in Round of 4, and Bo33 in Finals, with Double Eliminations.
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 10 2011 21:37 GMT
#763
On July 11 2011 06:34 kaisuki wrote:
I get the feeling that people won't be satisfied with any event unless they get the following:

Casters: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
MC: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Interviewers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Event Organizers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Ticket Vendors: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Bo7 in Round of 16, Bo13 in Round of 8, Bo19 in Round of 4, and Bo33 in Finals, with Double Eliminations.

Or you know, it could just be on the same level as mlg columbus or IEM or the last two dreamhacks, or homestory cup or the gsl or IPL or TLopens ffs
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
July 10 2011 21:38 GMT
#764
As a general thing, it seems like despite all the preparation for this event, they were still winging it.

The importance of a 'dress rehearsal' of sorts can not be understated. Get the lights on, cameras rolling. Stream it to a private channel and have a practice match between 2 anybodies and see how it all looks. Dry runs will help work out the kinks for when the real show starts, and I get the impression that this wasn't really done. (You can sort of tell by the first day volume differences between casters, shaky improv camera angles, etc).

I was extremely disappointed with the glaring lights throughout the event, it had a real feel of someones camcorder in the back of the room which was unfortunate.

When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
FawxzTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden178 Posts
July 10 2011 21:42 GMT
#765
Time to crank up the music and mute the stream:D Epic games ensue!
kaisuki
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia68 Posts
July 10 2011 21:42 GMT
#766
On July 11 2011 06:37 425kid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 06:34 kaisuki wrote:
I get the feeling that people won't be satisfied with any event unless they get the following:

Casters: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
MC: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Interviewers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Event Organizers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Ticket Vendors: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Bo7 in Round of 16, Bo13 in Round of 8, Bo19 in Round of 4, and Bo33 in Finals, with Double Eliminations.

Or you know, it could just be on the same level as mlg columbus or IEM or the last two dreamhacks, or homestory cup or the gsl or IPL or TLopens ffs


You know, it could be the first time that they're running this event, while the others have been going on for awhile and still have their issues, or they didn't have to deal with the offline part of the event at all?
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 10 2011 21:47 GMT
#767
On July 11 2011 06:42 kaisuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 06:37 425kid wrote:
On July 11 2011 06:34 kaisuki wrote:
I get the feeling that people won't be satisfied with any event unless they get the following:

Casters: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
MC: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Interviewers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Event Organizers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Ticket Vendors: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Bo7 in Round of 16, Bo13 in Round of 8, Bo19 in Round of 4, and Bo33 in Finals, with Double Eliminations.

Or you know, it could just be on the same level as mlg columbus or IEM or the last two dreamhacks, or homestory cup or the gsl or IPL or TLopens ffs


You know, it could be the first time that they're running this event, while the others have been going on for awhile and still have their issues, or they didn't have to deal with the offline part of the event at all?

They could have hired people who had done it before though. It being the first time is only an excuse if they hadnt seen how much other people had struggled with it. Dress rehearsals, hiring experience, etc. would have helped but werent done. The audio and set are middle school level. It doesnt take genius to set up a good schedule.

Point is, you're going to be compared to your competition, and NASL failed miserably compared to every other major event in the last few months.
Stevesy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada4 Posts
July 10 2011 21:55 GMT
#768
On July 11 2011 05:53 iNcontroL wrote:
Sorry I'm not as good of a caster as tastosis. Gretorp and I are finishing things out because we are the nasl casters. Hating on me, gretorp or the nasl for it won't change things. Please dig deep and try to enjoy the games regardless.


Don't worry, I'll enjoy them listening to music while the stream is muted. Good games are good games. Shit casting can be ignored.

User was temp banned for this post.
getter1
Profile Joined April 2011
27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 22:09:06
July 10 2011 22:07 GMT
#769
On July 11 2011 05:53 iNcontroL wrote:
Sorry I'm not as good of a caster as tastosis. Gretorp and I are finishing things out because we are the nasl casters. Hating on me, gretorp or the nasl for it won't change things. Please dig deep and try to enjoy the games regardless.


Who are you putting this show on for?

Yourself or the viewers?

Ask yourself that one.

I think there is something to be said about the casters/production team if they are asking their viewers, who paid to watch this, to 'dig deep' to the finish.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 22:12:40
July 10 2011 22:08 GMT
#770
On July 11 2011 06:47 425kid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 06:42 kaisuki wrote:
On July 11 2011 06:37 425kid wrote:
On July 11 2011 06:34 kaisuki wrote:
I get the feeling that people won't be satisfied with any event unless they get the following:

Casters: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
MC: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Interviewers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Event Organizers: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Ticket Vendors: Tasteless, Artosis and Day9
Bo7 in Round of 16, Bo13 in Round of 8, Bo19 in Round of 4, and Bo33 in Finals, with Double Eliminations.

Or you know, it could just be on the same level as mlg columbus or IEM or the last two dreamhacks, or homestory cup or the gsl or IPL or TLopens ffs


You know, it could be the first time that they're running this event, while the others have been going on for awhile and still have their issues, or they didn't have to deal with the offline part of the event at all?

They could have hired people who had done it before though. It being the first time is only an excuse if they hadnt seen how much other people had struggled with it. Dress rehearsals, hiring experience, etc. would have helped but werent done. The audio and set are middle school level. It doesnt take genius to set up a good schedule.

Point is, you're going to be compared to your competition, and NASL failed miserably compared to every other major event in the last few months.


Honestly having to watch the NASL finals on mute is pretty bad when they have 3 of the best english commentators that they flew in for this event. It just shows that they are in no way committed to running good events and just want to watch friends ruin and fail at putting on an event.

It's been about 80% downtime, MLG had less downtime with massive internet failures. They also seem completely inept at sound, stage, and basically every aspect possible.

Even the caster area is terrible, with an obviously tacked on 30 dollar banner. They didn't even bother tacking it on besides at the corners so the top part droops down a bit. It's absolutely terrible and to "forgive" them is silly. It's bad, supporting bad things just leads to more bad. It's been months and months since NASL started and I still dont care to watch it, yet I'll stay up super late on occasion to catch a good night of GSL matches.

It's hard to give any suggestions, because unlike MLG, NASL doesn't seem to actually be taking any of the issues seriously. The casters/crew/organizers seem to be taking the stance "it's good enough stop whining"

I wouldnt call objectively looking at a bad event and saying it is bad as whining.
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Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 22:17:33
July 10 2011 22:08 GMT
#771
Please back the stage away from the crowd... being able to hear precisely what it shouted seems rather unprofessional and is asking for trouble. It's nice that there's a crowd, but just the applause and cheers is sufficient.

Edit: Really incontrol, a President Bush jab? Tastless and Artosis are at this event, the undisputed best casters, they casted the semis, but for the grand finals they aren't casting?
OPKutty
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada45 Posts
July 10 2011 22:13 GMT
#772
Epic finals so far!!
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Puma sniping charge seconds before finishing winning him game 2 XD
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 22:15:29
July 10 2011 22:13 GMT
#773
No game sound in the finals.

Edit: Fixed it for game 3. So pro!
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Siphyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
July 10 2011 22:15 GMT
#774
All I want casters that don't use the words meticulous and high yield. Is that too much to ask?
HSY - KMK - Hyomin - Yoona - Sojin | NesTea - DRG - Puzzle - Bomber - NANIWA
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
July 10 2011 22:16 GMT
#775
On July 11 2011 07:15 Siphyo wrote:
All I want casters that don't use the words meticulous and high yield. Is that too much to ask?

How the hell do you go through a SC2 macro game without the phrase "high yield" - sure you can say "gold minerals" but really now?

These finals are insane! PuMa is making this an incredible series to watch - he is making MC look like a bronze leaguer. My only suggestion would be to make the game sounds a little higher but it doesn't bother me to much because of my love for Gretorp and iNc
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
ICA
Profile Joined January 2011
498 Posts
July 10 2011 22:17 GMT
#776
I really thought that this would be a nice tournament but the format totally destroyed it for me. Why should there be someone going through an open tournament after group phases (who is likely to be insanely good since a lot of extremely good players did not "qualify" for the league), go on to play the number one spot and is then likely to win it all? Does not seem fair to me. Also this visa thing with some players (Nightend and Tarson if I remember correctly!?). Casting was okay, not the best but could have been worse, I just do not understand why if (arguably) the best casting combo (Tasteless and Artosis) is at the event casting the games it is not going to cast the finals. Pretty much a "waste" to me.
If the NASL fixes this stuff and maybe also shortens the duration of the entire league a bit it should be fine.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 10 2011 22:26 GMT
#777
These games are SOOOOOOO good!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 10 2011 22:27 GMT
#778
I really don't agree with letting Incontrol and Gretorp cast the finals.

Some say they deserve it more, but NASL doesn't need to be fair, what they should strive to do is to bring the best product possible. This is not it, anyone can tell you as much.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
July 10 2011 22:28 GMT
#779
There are 70thousand people watching the NASL, but only about 15k active on TL =(
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 10 2011 22:30 GMT
#780
health bars are good
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