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Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
July 10 2011 21:10 GMT
#741
I really love it seing incontrol reading this during the event taking the feedback and staying real calm when his person is being critisized, big props to you incontrol and besides the flaws that obviously occured, there is no way denieng that, it is a huge and great event.
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 10 2011 21:11 GMT
#742
On July 11 2011 06:04 absalom86 wrote:
I would vastly prefer day9 / Tastosis casting the finals personally, but maybe that's just me. No point flying people half across the world to an event if you aren't going to get all the bang for your buck. Maybe NASL should do what MLG did and have multiple teams cast the finals so people could pick their preference ?

This. It feels like a bait and switch. "Lets fly 3 of the best casters in the world out to cast a few games each but we're gonna keep our amateur casters in for the big matchups!" wat?
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
July 10 2011 21:11 GMT
#743
I enjoy Incontrol and day9 just as much as day 9 and gretorp, just as much as tastetosis, and Incontrol and Gretorp are just as good as well in my eyes.

Besides, the casters do not influnce the fact that we get to watch PuMa the monster from the SC1 practice houses go up against the best BossToss in the business.

Sit down, Shut the fuck up, and enjoy the epic as shit games that are about to be played.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Railin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada96 Posts
July 10 2011 21:12 GMT
#744
Im really impressed by Linsey Sporrer and how well she did the improv interviews. Also, always dressed very appropriately.

Really huge props for being able to get the shy nerds to open up and start talking so freely on camera! That's a feat in itself. And to anyone bashing on her for not knowing much about SC2 - well, she's learning ... and it's not easy at all to do improv interviews and keep it easy and flowing on live TV!

Most people make things like that feel too stiff or awkward. I would LOVE to see her doing the main stage interviews next time too - I know NASL is all about "this person deserves it", but giving the BETTER person the job leads to BETTER production, over pleasing someone important's girlfriend.

Same about letting the better and more popular casters cast the finals ... :/

The main problem of NASL right now is how CHEAP the event looks. With such a huge prize pool, one rightfully expects a much, much higher production level. No matter how epic Tastosis/Day9 are, the stage/booth setup is horrendous, and the sound quality still has issues even on the 3rd day.

I understand there might have been financial issues, but how expensive could it have been to get someone to paint a beautiful SC2 themed background for the stage, and put lights in the player booths, as well as some appropriate spot lights for the stage?!

Regarding games, my zerg heart is still heartbroken over Sen losing to MC in such a dramatic way </3 Really epic matches so far though.
~~femFxRailin~~ "Sc2 strategies have an interesting history of being developed in Europe, perfected in Korea, and used on unsuspecting Americans" [Tree.Hugger]
Iluen
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 21:13:34
July 10 2011 21:13 GMT
#745
editing coming
Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
July 10 2011 21:14 GMT
#746
On July 11 2011 06:03 Adsee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 05:46 Fubi wrote:
On July 11 2011 05:42 Armaz wrote:
You guys can't be serious, Gretorp and Incontrol have put in so much work and cast the entire season for months, it's only fitting that they do the final.

It doesn't matter how much some people "think" they deserve to cast. Fact of the matter is, is that Tastosis is better, and they are there, and it's the final game. So if they were thinking about the best experience for the audience (instead of their own ego), it is only fitting for Tastosis to cast the grand finals.


So it doesn't make sense that NASL should close out their own event with their own casters? I love Tastosis, and do agree they are better then Gretorp/Incontrol, but they really shouldn't cast the finals. Gretorp and Incontrol have put so much work into this tournament and into their casting for the entire league.

Tastosis and Day9 cast like every tournament, let Gretorp and Incontrol finish casting the league they've been working on for the past three months.

Yes, it doesn't make sense that NASL is closing out their own event with potentially less quality than they could of offered. Any good company would always put customers first. At the very least, provide dual stream with dual casting like Dreamhack did so the viewers can pick themselves.

I've literally seen Tastosis cast one match this whole weekend myself (admittedly I haven't seen all the matches yet due to long delays). It's such a waste of talents imo.
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
July 10 2011 21:15 GMT
#747
On July 11 2011 06:10 oursblanc wrote:
They should really, 100%, without question, put a time up on the stream of when the finals match is going to start.

Because the schedule on their website is several hours off. Who knows how many viewers they are losing.


Theyre losing me. I made plans to go watch the finals at the Toronto meetup after work tonight. I've been looking forward to it all through this shitty week. Now I get to miss them cause NASL decides to move them up 90 mins with no advance notice. Thanks for fucking ruining my week.
sgt_cr
Profile Joined November 2007
Costa Rica95 Posts
July 10 2011 21:15 GMT
#748
Sound checks before going live should fix the audio problems, also testing the mic before going live can also do the trick.

if you are going to have a 16players playing just a single elimination plz dont make 1h breaks after one match, its unreal for ppl viewers to get 3 days of their lives (we do have jobs and social activities) its so frustrading to just take 3 days of my weekend to watch just 16matches in total.

Change the final event format, making them come so far for just one bo3 can be pointless specially if the cash pool is so big, having them play quicker and less breaks can help, can you imagine they are wainting for 8hs to play their last game (MC vs Boxer) after 10hs of waiting

Basically get better production team someone with experience it looks like NASL was run by a lot of university students and things were fixed on the run, not profesional at all and you cant ask ppl to pay 25 dollars for that

Its cool to have day9, tasteless and artosis, we reconize the amount of effor from incontrol and gretorp but i mean come on this is not the school were you do things for effort, you give a product we and we pay, you should give us the BEST casters available, i dont hate incontrol nor gretorp but not having the best duo casting doing the finals is a shame.

Im not going to pay for the next season of NASL until i see better production value on it.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 10 2011 21:15 GMT
#749
On July 11 2011 06:10 Pred8oar wrote:
I really love it seing incontrol reading this during the event taking the feedback and staying real calm when his person is being critisized, big props to you incontrol and besides the flaws that obviously occured, there is no way denieng that, it is a huge and great event.


appreciate it man always trying to improve.
Sikly
Profile Joined June 2011
United States413 Posts
July 10 2011 21:16 GMT
#750
On July 11 2011 05:54 iNcontroL wrote:
And by "won't change things" I mean for this final. If you have constructive criticism please share that do future events can be more to your liking.


I've personally enjoyed your casting thus far, people are whiny and will complain about any little thing in life. I'm glad you are casting the final as it's your last cast as an official NASL caster!

Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 21:19:57
July 10 2011 21:18 GMT
#751
i'm surprised they didn't try doing something like rotate casters during the finals

game 1: gretorp+inc
game 2: day9+inc
game 3: day9+gretorp
game 4: tasteless+artosis

etc
or whatever rotation you prefer, the possibilities are endless
you're guaranteed 4 games, so with 5 casters they're all guaranteed to cast at least 1 game, you put tastosis on game 4 and 7 for maximum excitement if it's a 4-0 or a 4-3

there's are lots of things to complain about, but tastosis being underused isn't one of them, they've actually casted approximately 1/3 of the games in the tournament
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Nighthawks28
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 21:19:26
July 10 2011 21:18 GMT
#752
I think the scheduling hurt the event a lot. It was a terrible schedule. Look at the original day 3 finals schedule. If they stuck w/ the original schedule, there would have been massive downtime of nothing so that would be terrible. But since they changed the schedule to have matches sooner, this also screw the people that used the schedule to show up and watch the matches. I think there would have been much more viewers if the original schedule was a lot better and less downtime.
Iluen
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden7 Posts
July 10 2011 21:19 GMT
#753
I think Lindsay is awful the esport is about SC2 and it's from the community for the community.
Bringing in a outsider with 0 knowledge of to what ask is just incompetent i just shows you that you got money.
And then you are destroying more then you are creating..

"TylerWasieleski Tyler Wasieleski
Anyone who is capable of talking on camera is either going to hit on her or troll. This is futile and I love it"

I bet that you could get day9 or any of the other casters that are there to ask the question so we get some nice answers..
Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them
zasda
Profile Joined March 2011
381 Posts
July 10 2011 21:21 GMT
#754
On July 11 2011 06:10 Pred8oar wrote:
I really love it seing incontrol reading this during the event taking the feedback and staying real calm when his person is being critisized, big props to you incontrol and besides the flaws that obviously occured, there is no way denieng that, it is a huge and great event.

well make sure you don't miss the finals since u seems to be quite busy spending time between his buttocks getting ur tongue a nice tan.

User was temp banned for this post.
PhaseTwo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States118 Posts
July 10 2011 21:21 GMT
#755
gretorp and inc casting finals....... why
best dr pepper drinkin, kush smokin, gsl watchin diamond nerd baller brotoss ever
getter1
Profile Joined April 2011
27 Posts
July 10 2011 21:23 GMT
#756
On July 11 2011 05:29 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
Out of all you people whining and complaining and whatnot, I hope we can all agree that the most important part of the NASL, the games, have been pretty spectacular so far.



Yes, but there are other places which we can find spectacular games.

NASL isn't offering anything dramatically unique. Amazing games and series will happen with or without NASL, so I think its sort of a moot point to talk about the value that pro starcraft players bring in a tournament.

I mean, you could be watching the greatest Super Bowl in history but it would be unbearable for the viewers to sit through long waits, terrible commentary and half assed audio.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 10 2011 21:23 GMT
#757
On July 11 2011 06:21 zasda wrote:
well make sure you don't miss the finals since u seems to be quite busy spending time between his buttocks getting ur tongue a nice tan.


You guys are acting like spoiled children.

Please grow the fuck up.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
CaptainKirby
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark47 Posts
July 10 2011 21:24 GMT
#758
Casting wise I will say that I am a little dissapointed not to have day9 or tasty casting, but incontrol is hilarious so I can live with that...
However I would say for an event that has been planned for several months, and has had a considerable amount of money posted into it(I can only assume, considering the prizepool), i would say the productiuon value comes off(on the stream at least) as amateurish in a big way.
The stage is so bland that my eyes hurt, the introductions are the most awkward i have ever seen, and then there is sound/camera issues en masse.

It feels like a lot of people who are so and so at what they do pretend to be very good at what they do, and as a result it all falls to shambles.

And why is everyones girlfriend here doing terrible interviews? really?
Whatever! here's a to a kickass final!
opaque
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation89 Posts
July 10 2011 21:27 GMT
#759
Casting is important, but not the end all be all for an event. The games will make the finals, not the casting.

The people that are complaining about having payed for the event and getting screwed over with "lesser casters" need to realize that the ONLY thing the payed for is the higher quality for the stream and no adds. Nothing else. Stop being stupid.
What
Zeevo
Profile Joined June 2011
148 Posts
July 10 2011 21:29 GMT
#760
Great great event overall. The interviews really brought the whole thing down, But a lot can be forgiven because its the first season. Next season im sure we can see more professionals working on the audio and productions, as well as the interviews.


Really wish Tastosis casted the final match though
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