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kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
June 21 2011 18:28 GMT
#521
Easily worth such a tiny amount of money for 3 months, and that's without considering that it's teamleague which has always been awsome.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
June 21 2011 18:32 GMT
#522
I just want to repost this from the sponsored thread one more time:

"GSTL used to be priced at 4.99USD (with ads) for a 4 day tournament. With our new GSTL, which will be running for almost 3 months, you’ll get 25 full playdays for only 24.99USD (with ads)."

It's just the illusion of paying more money. You technically paid 1.25 for 1 day in old GSTL, and now pay 1.00 for 1 day in GSTL (though the number of games is different so let's just say for the sake of argument...it's basically the same deal).
the farm ends here
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
June 21 2011 18:47 GMT
#523
PartyBiscuit, you're right about it being somewhat of an an illusion. However judging by the reaction, there's a need to keep the headline price low.

$10/mo seems to be a good price point for them, so maybe the option of a recurring subscription of $15 that covers both the GSL and GSTL would be a fair compromise. That's a total of $45/qtr compared to $55/qtr paying separately.

A discount of $10 represents good value to the consumer, means GOM gets a more stable subscription base and means that most importantly the headline price is still probably around about a working person's impulse purchase threshold. It's also a nice upsell - "Why buy GSL this month for $10 when for only $15 you can also have GSTL"

tldr;

Maintain existing one off payment pricing for people who wish to watch only one league

Offer a recurring subscription to all GOM leagues that is slightly less than paying separately
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
June 21 2011 19:01 GMT
#524
On June 22 2011 03:47 andytb wrote:
PartyBiscuit, you're right about it being somewhat of an an illusion. However judging by the reaction, there's a need to keep the headline price low.

$10/mo seems to be a good price point for them, so maybe the option of a recurring subscription of $15 that covers both the GSL and GSTL would be a fair compromise. That's a total of $45/qtr compared to $55/qtr paying separately.

A discount of $10 represents good value to the consumer, means GOM gets a more stable subscription base and means that most importantly the headline price is still probably around about a working person's impulse purchase threshold. It's also a nice upsell - "Why buy GSL this month for $10 when for only $15 you can also have GSTL"

tldr;

Maintain existing one off payment pricing for people who wish to watch only one league

Offer a recurring subscription to all GOM leagues that is slightly less than paying separately


agree with this, even though I'm in the position to purchase this stuff, i just threw down 60 bucks( I don't like ads, and 60 bucks isn't gonna break the bank for me), it feels very odd purchasing all this at once. And i would be extremely comfortable with a subscription service.

This comes up with some problems though

the subscriber of one month would be able to watch all the VOD's of the tourney, or whatever.

The issue is, would people taking advantage of the subscription system hurt sales in comparison to a one time buy? That is something I don't know.
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Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
June 21 2011 19:35 GMT
#525
I don't know if a "monthly" subscription would work, but maybe it make more sense to do it at logical divisions in the tournament structure. GOM definitely should add some additional pricing options since this is going to be a tournament spanning multiple months. Something like the following:

$12/$20 for the first 5 weeks of the regular season
$12/$20 for the last 5 weeks of the regular season
$8/$15 for the 3 weeks of playoffs
----
$25/$40 for the complete tournament
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 21:57:35
June 21 2011 21:56 GMT
#526
On June 18 2011 14:43 Irrelevant wrote:
Cheaper than previous seasons of GSTL and no one ever complained about that.


You mean it's cheaper per game. Still it is easier to afford $5 upfront than $25.
The spice must flow
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
June 22 2011 06:47 GMT
#527
On June 22 2011 04:01 r_con wrote:
The issue is, would people taking advantage of the subscription system hurt sales in comparison to a one time buy? That is something I don't know.


I'm afraid I don't know enough about the field to put this in to numbers, however for example porn sites and print magazines clearly see the worth of having their subscribers tied in to a regular contract.

I imagine the consumer thought process to go something along the lines of "<i>Oh well, I may as well have another month, I'm subscribed anyway</i>"
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
June 22 2011 06:54 GMT
#528
I make barely over minimum wage, but this isn't even a problem...3 months of IM and Nestea for 40? You serious? Very good deal IMO.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
June 22 2011 06:56 GMT
#529
On June 17 2011 19:56 bwally wrote:
Plus Gomtv quality is garbage.


lol if you dont pay yes. Dont poste garbage post like that.. try to think
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
June 22 2011 06:59 GMT
#530
On June 21 2011 05:18 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 05:01 ImHuko wrote:
On June 21 2011 04:58 karpo wrote:
On June 21 2011 04:46 ImHuko wrote:
Edit: Just my opinon on the whole paying for thing, you can watch most shows on TV if you miss them on Hulu for free and legally (Maybe other countries don't have the same), but to watch a game of SC2 if I miss it live, I have to pay money for... pretty stupid if you ask me. I can tell my buddy to check out the latest episode of CSI because it is sick, but if I want to tell my buddy to go watch TheBest vs MarineKing (trollol), they have to pay money. Luckily for myself I can stay up at 5AM every night and catch them live, so no money has to come out of my pocket.


TV shows have enough exposure with ads/dvd box sales that they can afford it. Well produced SC2 content does not.

Samsung, G.Skill, and Coke exist all around the world, I don't understand why we don't watch commercials instead of seeing the same GomTV intro we've seen since Avertac Intel Classic in BW. Play some damn commercials in the VODs, I don't care.

I just don't like the fact I can't tell my buddy to go watch a SC2 match that he might actually be interested in. I got him watching some of the Avertac Intel Classic because he thought Tasteless was hilarious, I couldn't get him to do the same now a days.


Commercials would help with adding money for GOM but i'm pretty sure the amount of money Samsung and G.Skill are willing to pay for these commercials are nothing compared to overall production costs. Commercials on regular broadcast TV reach a much broader audience with everything from LCD TV's to toilet paper. SC2 fans are not the key demographic.

And don't forget dvd box sales, those probably account for a huge part of the revenue from TV-series.

It's just not feasible that your friend should just be able to watch any game from GOM for free. Even with ads it still wont cover all the costs.


They should reduce price slightly, put commercials in. Then sell a GSL 2011 DVD box, with bonus video of interviews, special matches, team house tours, CODE B footage, and maybe even a few(very few) replays of some of the best matches of each tournament if the players agreed. I'd buy that as long as it had subtitles(I assume everything would be Korean, but I guess they could have a second version if profitable)
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
June 22 2011 07:06 GMT
#531
Honestly it comes down to who the GSTL casters are. Once I figure that out, I'll make the decision.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 07:24:01
June 22 2011 07:23 GMT
#532
Voted other.

FUCK YEAH EPIC EXTENDED TEAM LEAGUE FORMAT EXACTLY LIKE WE ASKED FOR!!!!

I don't know what price you guys are arguing about. I just pressed purchase instantly. You do realize that running a team league is more costly than an individual league, right?
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 22 2011 07:25 GMT
#533
On June 22 2011 16:23 vrok wrote:
Voted other.

FUCK YEAH EPIC EXTENDED TEAM LEAGUE FORMAT EXACTLY LIKE WE ASKED FOR!!!!

I don't know what price you guys are arguing about. I just pressed purchase instantly. You do realize that running a team league is more costly than an individual league, right?

I like to be extremely discriminating when making purchases personally.
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
June 22 2011 07:36 GMT
#534
On June 17 2011 19:40 Niick wrote:
Let me get this straight guys

You will pay $5 for 4 days of play, but $25 for 25 days play is too much?

Hey would you look at that, a dollar a day. before you were paying $1.25.


Why hasn't this quote been edited or mod-edited into the original post, the original post is incredibly biased against it, and this fact is the reason I thought the pricing was quite good.
srsly
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
June 22 2011 07:39 GMT
#535
On June 22 2011 16:25 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 16:23 vrok wrote:
Voted other.

FUCK YEAH EPIC EXTENDED TEAM LEAGUE FORMAT EXACTLY LIKE WE ASKED FOR!!!!

I don't know what price you guys are arguing about. I just pressed purchase instantly. You do realize that running a team league is more costly than an individual league, right?

I like to be extremely discriminating when making purchases personally.

If you're that discriminating you will realize that it's actually more value for your money than the old GSTL format though so I fail to see your point.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
justdweezil
Profile Joined July 2009
United States186 Posts
June 22 2011 07:45 GMT
#536
I'm so crushed that so many people are so ignorant about basic math and economics. The price per game of GSTL is unchanged. This is almost as sad as that order of operations thread.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
June 22 2011 07:47 GMT
#537
On June 22 2011 16:39 vrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 16:25 Serpico wrote:
On June 22 2011 16:23 vrok wrote:
Voted other.

FUCK YEAH EPIC EXTENDED TEAM LEAGUE FORMAT EXACTLY LIKE WE ASKED FOR!!!!

I don't know what price you guys are arguing about. I just pressed purchase instantly. You do realize that running a team league is more costly than an individual league, right?

I like to be extremely discriminating when making purchases personally.

If you're that discriminating you will realize that it's actually more value for your money than the old GSTL format though so I fail to see your point.


It's the exact same value if you do it by number of matches instead of days.

I just don't think the group stage matches will be as exciting as the one week playoffs of the last seasons. I don't think any of the round of 8 matches from those were that memorable and we are going to get lots of games like those I think as the lesser teams play over and over again.
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
June 22 2011 07:48 GMT
#538
25$ seems more than reasonable.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
sinjitsu_
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia196 Posts
June 22 2011 08:04 GMT
#539
Support e-Sports, or we wont have a GSL ^_^
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
June 22 2011 08:06 GMT
#540
On June 22 2011 16:47 coolcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 16:39 vrok wrote:
On June 22 2011 16:25 Serpico wrote:
On June 22 2011 16:23 vrok wrote:
Voted other.

FUCK YEAH EPIC EXTENDED TEAM LEAGUE FORMAT EXACTLY LIKE WE ASKED FOR!!!!

I don't know what price you guys are arguing about. I just pressed purchase instantly. You do realize that running a team league is more costly than an individual league, right?

I like to be extremely discriminating when making purchases personally.

If you're that discriminating you will realize that it's actually more value for your money than the old GSTL format though so I fail to see your point.


It's the exact same value if you do it by number of matches instead of days.

I just don't think the group stage matches will be as exciting as the one week playoffs of the last seasons. I don't think any of the round of 8 matches from those were that memorable and we are going to get lots of games like those I think as the lesser teams play over and over again.

I call bullshit. SlayerS vs oGs season 2 Ro8.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
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