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On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:On June 15 2011 02:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:
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Lol idunno about 'most stacked'. I'd say GSL code S tourney is a bit 'more stacked' without a doubt. Bummer about Nada & co... Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack. Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ
So before making statements, have you actually experienced the latency from KR to NA, EU? If not, your opinion does not matter.
Sad to see NaDa missing out, but I guess education > everything.
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On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:On June 15 2011 02:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 15 2011 02:10 SmoKim wrote:oh man that's a bummer  , but it won't change the fact that Dreamhack has the most stacked line-up so far for any tournament Lol idunno about 'most stacked'. I'd say GSL code S tourney is a bit 'more stacked' without a doubt. Bummer about Nada & co... Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack. Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit.
Most people who werent wishful thinkers thought mma/losira would dominate mlg. What ended up happening? Same thing will happen at dreamhack. People can keep wishing for koreans to lose in a meaningful tourney but until it actually happens i go off facts not delusions.
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On June 15 2011 04:02 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:58 xza wrote:On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:
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Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ yes it does, get out troll. 350 ping vs 30 ping. try it. ps: TSL3: everyone: LOLOLOL 'white dudes own korea' Korea: but it was lag everyone: BUT YOU LOST! LOLOLOLOL. MLG Columbus everyone: wow.... we are way behind the koreans... 1st/2nd/3rd all koreans. koreans only lost to koreans in columbus... wow. Korea: told you it was lag. everyone: *starts thread about people getting owned at homesoil* Ah, I forgot how every time a Korean loses it is because jetlag/lag/ they didnt care. My bad
Looool yeah was it MC who said that(he didn't care) during GSL World Team Championship.
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On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:On June 15 2011 02:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 15 2011 02:10 SmoKim wrote:oh man that's a bummer , but it won't change the fact that Dreamhack has the most stacked line-up so far for any tournament Lol idunno about 'most stacked'. I'd say GSL code S tourney is a bit 'more stacked' without a doubt. Bummer about Nada & co... Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack. Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3.
Yea take 1 tournament. Look at the rest.
You are in denial if you don't think the Koreans are just better. There is a margin and it's large enough. You're gonna hate sc2 aren't you? Because, this game is still young, when the Koreans fully migrate from bw to sc2, it's over.
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On June 15 2011 03:58 xza wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:
[quote]Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack.
Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ yes it does, get out troll. 350 ping vs 30 ping. try it. ps: TSL3: everyone: LOLOLOL 'white dudes own korea' Korea: but it was lag everyone: BUT YOU LOST! LOLOLOLOL. MLG Columbus everyone: wow.... we are way behind the koreans... 1st/2nd/3rd all koreans. koreans only lost to koreans in columbus... wow. Korea: told you it was lag. everyone: *starts thread about people getting owned at homesoil*
This post is hilarious and it's troll bait about as clear as they come.
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On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:On June 15 2011 02:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:
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Lol idunno about 'most stacked'. I'd say GSL code S tourney is a bit 'more stacked' without a doubt. Bummer about Nada & co... Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack. Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ
Yes it does, Koreans win every offline tourney they compete in verse foreigners.
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On June 15 2011 04:03 MrSpider wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 04:02 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:58 xza wrote:On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:
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If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ yes it does, get out troll. 350 ping vs 30 ping. try it. ps: TSL3: everyone: LOLOLOL 'white dudes own korea' Korea: but it was lag everyone: BUT YOU LOST! LOLOLOLOL. MLG Columbus everyone: wow.... we are way behind the koreans... 1st/2nd/3rd all koreans. koreans only lost to koreans in columbus... wow. Korea: told you it was lag. everyone: *starts thread about people getting owned at homesoil* Ah, I forgot how every time a Korean loses it is because jetlag/lag/ they didnt care. My bad Looool yeah was it MC who said that(he didn't care) during GSL World Team Championship.
Thats what they all said wasn't it xD?
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People are actually stupid enough to use TSL3 as a marker for korea vs world? The tourny was online, lag filled, etc. Koreans have absolutely destroyed everybody in lan settings. If you still think foreigners are as good because they "stomped" them in TSL3, you may want to see a doctor.
Idk why people can't accept it. If you want the foreigners to get better, accept that they suck and need to work harder and train more efficiently to improve. Keeping the foreigners in denial by giving them a false illusion that they're just as good will provoke them to continue training the way they do now, in which case they'll eventually get blown out of the water like in sc1.
Continue inviting the koreans to the lans and have them stomping the foreigners until they wake up and realize they have to improve to keep up. Saying "nah you're just as good as the koreans just keep on playing 2 hours a day and working 2 other jobs no prob" is only going to make them suck more and more.
edit: oh and about the TSL. Nestea stated in multiple interviews that he no longer wishes to participate in online tournaments because he gets very upset playing in a lag filled environment and losing to players he shouldn't be losing to. You can either be naive and call nestea a liar, or you can accept the fact that TSL was laggy.
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On June 15 2011 04:06 Oreo7 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:
[quote]Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack.
Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ Yes it does, Koreans win every offline tourney they compete in verse foreigners.
The Koreans can win most major tournaments and say not win one and it'll be the gospel for these korean haters.
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On June 15 2011 04:09 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 04:06 Oreo7 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:
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Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ Yes it does, Koreans win every offline tourney they compete in verse foreigners. The Koreans can win most major tournaments and say not win one and it'll be the gospel for these korean haters.
We are not korean haters. All we saying is there is a big differene between Dreamhack and MLG. Trust me you guys is in for a suprice when you see the top of the EU killing nerds left and right
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I dont undestand how they can admit the attending cancel a few days before
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On June 15 2011 04:13 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 04:09 jj33 wrote:On June 15 2011 04:06 Oreo7 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:
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If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ Yes it does, Koreans win every offline tourney they compete in verse foreigners. The Koreans can win most major tournaments and say not win one and it'll be the gospel for these korean haters. We are not korean haters. All we saying is there is a big differene between Dreamhack and MLG. Trust me you guys is in for a suprice when you see the top of the EU killing nerds left and right
Please enlighten us as to what euro player participating in this tourney is better than idra/naniwa/thorzain
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On June 15 2011 04:06 Oreo7 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:
[quote]Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack.
Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ Yes it does, Koreans win every offline tourney they compete in verse foreigners.
They didn't win the tournament at the last Dreamhack lan. In fact they didn't even manage to reach the finals. Idra, Naniwa and Thorzain among others have already shown that they can beat Code-S Koreans when playing on the same server from the same country and/or at a live event. The best Koreans might be favored against the best foreigners but a foreigner can still win if he has a good day.
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On June 15 2011 04:03 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:On June 15 2011 02:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 15 2011 02:10 SmoKim wrote:oh man that's a bummer , but it won't change the fact that Dreamhack has the most stacked line-up so far for any tournament Lol idunno about 'most stacked'. I'd say GSL code S tourney is a bit 'more stacked' without a doubt. Bummer about Nada & co... Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack. Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. Yea take 1 tournament. Look at the rest. You are in denial if you don't think the Koreans are just better. There is a margin and it's large enough. You're gonna hate sc2 aren't you? Because, this game is still young, when the Koreans fully migrate from bw to sc2, it's over.
But they won't migrate. What MIGHT happen is that the talent will go to SC2, but that will take years and years before it can truly be seen. And top foreigners CAN take games off even the best koreans. It's not like the bw scene, where foreigners would play their hearts out, move to Korea, practice for months and then MAYBE be able to go deep in the B-team tournaments.
Look at Sjow. Do you consider Sjow good? I would think so yes. Do you consider him one of the absolute top foreigners, up there with Idra? No, shouldn't think that. Yet he took a game off July and a game off MMA. That would be unheard of in BW, basically like Jesus coming back to earth to play Starcraft.
I would say that Bomber will most likely make it to the finals and win it. MC is also probably gonna make finals. But remember, if Idra doesn't tilt himself this time around, he looks so unbeatable it's not even funny. BRAT_OK is going too, I don't know if you remember the BW TSL? He came from out of nowhere and took third place. The man is a monster. Maybe Koreans are susceptible to special tactics? The Beast from the East is going too. TT1, HuK, Ret, Jinro, DIMAGA, Naama, all going. I'm prepared to believe we are going to see some close competition this summer.
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The Koreans probably wanted to go but maybe their sponsors didn't want to pay for so many of them to go.
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On June 15 2011 04:13 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 04:09 jj33 wrote:On June 15 2011 04:06 Oreo7 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:
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If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ Yes it does, Koreans win every offline tourney they compete in verse foreigners. The Koreans can win most major tournaments and say not win one and it'll be the gospel for these korean haters. We are not korean haters. All we saying is there is a big differene between Dreamhack and MLG. Trust me you guys is in for a suprice when you see the top of the EU killing nerds left and right
I didn't say euros can't win. There are many talented player from europe, but you make it sound like the Koreans can't compete vs them or win hahahah
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On June 15 2011 03:58 xza wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:
[quote]Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack.
Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ yes it does, get out troll. 350 ping vs 30 ping. try it. ps: TSL3: everyone: LOLOLOL 'white dudes own korea' Korea: but it was lag everyone: BUT YOU LOST! LOLOLOLOL. MLG Columbus everyone: wow.... we are way behind the koreans... 1st/2nd/3rd all koreans. koreans only lost to koreans in columbus... wow. Korea: told you it was lag. everyone: *starts thread about people getting owned at homesoil*
MC played against Thorzain on Europe in TSL3. Also it is not true that Koreans lost only to Koreans in MLG.
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On June 15 2011 04:20 DerNebel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 04:03 jj33 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:On June 15 2011 02:15 Elem wrote:On June 15 2011 02:13 FallDownMarigold wrote:
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Lol idunno about 'most stacked'. I'd say GSL code S tourney is a bit 'more stacked' without a doubt. Bummer about Nada & co... Code S is hardly stacked. Especially not compared to Dreamhack. Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. Yea take 1 tournament. Look at the rest. You are in denial if you don't think the Koreans are just better. There is a margin and it's large enough. You're gonna hate sc2 aren't you? Because, this game is still young, when the Koreans fully migrate from bw to sc2, it's over. But they won't migrate. What MIGHT happen is that the talent will go to SC2, but that will take years and years before it can truly be seen. And top foreigners CAN take games off even the best koreans. It's not like the bw scene, where foreigners would play their hearts out, move to Korea, practice for months and then MAYBE be able to go deep in the B-team tournaments. Look at Sjow. Do you consider Sjow good? I would think so yes. Do you consider him one of the absolute top foreigners, up there with Idra? No, shouldn't think that. Yet he took a game off July and a game off MMA. That would be unheard of in BW, basically like Jesus coming back to earth to play Starcraft. I would say that Bomber will most likely make it to the finals and win it. MC is also probably gonna make finals. But remember, if Idra doesn't tilt himself this time around, he looks so unbeatable it's not even funny. BRAT_OK is going too, I don't know if you remember the BW TSL? He came from out of nowhere and took third place. The man is a monster. Maybe Koreans are susceptible to special tactics? The Beast from the East is going too. TT1, HuK, Ret, Jinro, DIMAGA, Naama, all going. I'm prepared to believe we are going to see some close competition this summer.
When starcraft 1 first came out, it took awhile for the Koreans to fully get into it. For some reasons, however once they did, it changed the game forever. The koreans will eventually fully migrate to sc2. It's all about the money, guys like flash, jaedong make too much money in bw to move to sc2.
It's not a coincidence guys like MC who are absolutely beastly in sc2, were just backups in bw. Old legends like Nada and boxer, who I might say surprised me, as they are more than competitive in sc2, were just totally phased out in bw. The best talent is still in bw was my point.
BTW, I like many non korean players. I just stick up for the koreans, because of the blatant bias hate against them.
All the non korean players you mentioned are good, but TT1? He sucks and he will be an afterthought when this game is more mature.
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Hmm signing up for a big tournament and then canceling in the last minute citing a reason they have known about for like forever is just BM...
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On June 15 2011 04:24 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 03:58 xza wrote:On June 15 2011 03:56 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:55 zeenix1 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:53 Maliris wrote:On June 15 2011 03:46 oxxo wrote:On June 15 2011 03:42 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:19 antelope591 wrote:On June 15 2011 03:12 Karakaxe wrote:On June 15 2011 03:09 rysecake wrote:
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Code S is at least 10x as stacked as Dreamhack. You have a few star koreans + some star foreigners + some no name/average foreigners. Hardly anywhere as stacked as any korean tournament. If you're going to pull numbers, be realistic. Maybe not 10x but the post he was replying to was a lot more idiotic. How many more foreign events do koreans have to sweep before people get the picture? Too bad MKP isn't attending he finally could've won an event -_-. MC/Bomber will still take 1/2 tho unless they meet earlier on. The rest is up for grabs imo What picture? It's already known (ofcourse there are exceptions) that Koreans are overall abit better than foreigners due to their way of practising (team houses) and so on... And saying MC/Bomber is auto 1 and 2 spots... They are freaking amazing players and are favourites, that's about it. I admit I would be very shocked if they didn't get 1/2 in their groups but I would not be suprised if none of them reached the finals. It's so sad to read that so many people put Koreans on a fucking pedestal, when the margin is alot closer than they want to admit. What's more truthful is that many foreigners such as yourself are in denial about how much better Koreans are than foreigners. Who cares what race they are? Just look at the skill level. Overall, Koreans are far better. nope. they got stomped in TSL3. TSL3 was online, which ends that argument. No, it does not actually. Thanks for trying champ yes it does, get out troll. 350 ping vs 30 ping. try it. ps: TSL3: everyone: LOLOLOL 'white dudes own korea' Korea: but it was lag everyone: BUT YOU LOST! LOLOLOLOL. MLG Columbus everyone: wow.... we are way behind the koreans... 1st/2nd/3rd all koreans. koreans only lost to koreans in columbus... wow. Korea: told you it was lag. everyone: *starts thread about people getting owned at homesoil* MC played against Thorzain on Europe in TSL3. Also it is not true that Koreans lost only to Koreans in MLG.
Koreans were knocked out only by other Koreans is I think what he meant.
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