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st4nta
Profile Joined April 2011
United States215 Posts
June 12 2011 20:11 GMT
#621
interesting.. the two most successful ROOT players decides to leave
"OBAMA PROTOSS" "HuK is my warp prism" -MC
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 12 2011 20:12 GMT
#622
On June 13 2011 05:08 uSnAmplified wrote:

First you put mini over cruncher and now you say MLG is mediocre, if you can look at the pools from last MLG and tell me its mediocre you are trolling or biased to the point of being blind.


he means mediocre in terms of prize money. which it somewhat is considering the caliber of talent.
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
June 12 2011 20:12 GMT
#623
The sad thing is that ROOT truly was a one of a kind team.
They recruited unknown talent and built them up.
They had no major sponsors so they were like a big family.
But then they slowly fell apart, first sheth, then qxc, and now this.
I will just act like this never happened and keep rooting for the root players!
R.I.P. ROOT
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
June 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#624
lmfao at the "sold out" discussion. "Sold out" conversations always kinda make me giggle. People that have the chance to make their livelihood better by making a decision (e.g., join a major record label, join a gaming team, etc., etc., etc.) they're going to do it. Much to the chagrin of us commoners/spectators pro-gamers want to play games for a living. Obviously Complexity Gaming is helping that effort with the acquisition of ROOT.

ROOT did not "sell out"; they made a decision that they believe will advance their career. Things change. "Selling out" only means you're making progress, imo. But whatever, flame on.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#625
On June 13 2011 04:59 Kantutan wrote:
I'm guessing Kiwi is moving out of that team house then? :p


He never permanently lived there, only bootcamped for MLG Dallas. Also even if he did live there that doesn't mean he'd have to move out...Inka still lives with Machine and Idra in the EG House even after he joined LG
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st4nta
Profile Joined April 2011
United States215 Posts
June 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#626
On June 13 2011 04:59 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 04:54 EnderCraft wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:47 flamekin wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:40 tadL wrote:
so col tried to get top players of root but their two top players didnt come, bad deal for col.

you make it sound like they didn't know what they were buying, im sure they knew in advance and still aquired root

Lets look at the reality of this. CoL was a mediocre team, not only would Complexity benefit from getting heavy hitters on their team, it also benefits Root as well who has had a history of struggling financially. However, when you don't get those heavy hitters who are frankly most likely going perform better over the rest of the lot, it is an utterly bad business decision on Complexity's part when you don't get that prime aspect of the deal.

Let me tell you, Root came out on top of this deal. They will most likely be better off merging with Complexity for financial sake. However, without Kiwi or slush, Complexity is just spending a lot more money than they need to be.

stop speculating jesus you have no idea how much col is investing or really how much catz/drew/minigun/destiny/ddoro are worth


so how much are they worth? please share your thoughts with the community.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#627
On June 13 2011 05:02 SSLPrism wrote:
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On June 13 2011 04:57 jlake02 wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:33 XKiller wrote:
Man i loved ROOT and i hate complexity, man ROOT sold out.


Just curious.. why do you hate us? Do you know our history? Have we done something to wrong you? Not being a jerk, I'm just curious why you would hate us after we've been working hard to represent American gaming for 8 years.


I have to be honest, if you feel you're best representing complexity then you're just giving me the completely wrong image. Just seems to be you've been overly defensive quite aggressively and very arrogant.

But best of luck to your team and new additions.



lol what a ridiculous comment. People love to get on their pedestal on these forums.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#628
On June 13 2011 05:11 Doodsmack wrote:
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On June 13 2011 05:08 MrDudeMan wrote:
On June 13 2011 05:03 jlake02 wrote:
On June 13 2011 05:00 two.watup wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:57 jlake02 wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:33 XKiller wrote:
Man i loved ROOT and i hate complexity, man ROOT sold out.


Just curious.. why do you hate us? Do you know our history? Have we done something to wrong you? Not being a jerk, I'm just curious why you would hate us after we've been working hard to represent American gaming for 8 years.

Cruncher.


So you hate a multi-gaming organization with ~30 players at any one time because you don't like 1 guy? Doesn't seem logical but you're definitely entitled to your opinion.


I think its mostly because most people were introduced to the complexity team when the whole idra-cruncher thing occurred. And seeing how idra has a huge amount of fans (myself included), cruncher (and sadly complexity) made a bad first impression.

That being said, congratulations on picking up the root guys. Im a huge fan of all of them, and despite being a little sad that kiwi and slush aren't on there, I still wish you all the best of luck.



Sorry but Idra's opinion doesn't dictate whether a team or player made a bad impression to the community. Unless you mean that cruncher's tactics made a bad impression for both him and the team (since his tactics were the reason for Idra's frustration). Really what you're saying is that because your boy lost, complexity made a bad impression on the SC2 community. I'll let you identify the flaw(s) in that argument.



I did mean his tactics, I wasn't talking about any particular match.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
June 12 2011 20:16 GMT
#629
On June 13 2011 05:12 Strike_ wrote:
The sad thing is that ROOT truly was a one of a kind team.
They recruited unknown talent and built them up.
They had no major sponsors so they were like a big family.
But then they slowly fell apart, first sheth, then qxc, and now this.
I will just act like this never happened and keep rooting for the root players!
R.I.P. ROOT


True, ROOT were unique sad to see em joining another team...
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Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#630
TL is lacking in Protoss players afterall. I would agree that Kiwi and Slush are the best players along with Drewbie from root.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#631
On June 13 2011 05:14 st4nta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 04:59 ROOTFayth wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:54 EnderCraft wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:47 flamekin wrote:
On June 13 2011 04:40 tadL wrote:
so col tried to get top players of root but their two top players didnt come, bad deal for col.

you make it sound like they didn't know what they were buying, im sure they knew in advance and still aquired root

Lets look at the reality of this. CoL was a mediocre team, not only would Complexity benefit from getting heavy hitters on their team, it also benefits Root as well who has had a history of struggling financially. However, when you don't get those heavy hitters who are frankly most likely going perform better over the rest of the lot, it is an utterly bad business decision on Complexity's part when you don't get that prime aspect of the deal.

Let me tell you, Root came out on top of this deal. They will most likely be better off merging with Complexity for financial sake. However, without Kiwi or slush, Complexity is just spending a lot more money than they need to be.

stop speculating jesus you have no idea how much col is investing or really how much catz/drew/minigun/destiny/ddoro are worth


so how much are they worth? please share your thoughts with the community.


As much as I dislike the move, it is not in the public's position to go about asking for contract details or specifics on player value etc. That's liek asking someone how much money they make, or asking a lady what her age is. Just not appropriate.
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EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
June 12 2011 20:17 GMT
#632
On June 13 2011 05:14 DueSs wrote:
lmfao at the "sold out" discussion. "Sold out" conversations always kinda make me giggle. People that have the chance to make their livelihood better by making a decision (e.g., join a major record label, join a gaming team, etc., etc., etc.) they're going to do it. Much to the chagrin of us commoners/spectators pro-gamers want to play games for a living. Obviously Complexity Gaming is helping that effort with the acquisition of ROOT.

ROOT did not "sell out"; they made a decision that they believe will advance their career. Things change. "Selling out" only means you're making progress, imo. But whatever, flame on.

Root didn't sell out. They made a smart business decision, that's the bottom line. coL on the other hand made the worst decision by not acquiring the ace players that they were already lacking. Now all they tacked on was more dead weight honestly. Unless Catz and co. start to win anything, it is an increasingly bad decision for coL.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
June 12 2011 20:18 GMT
#633
Complexity has done all the right things in terms of manner, you guys need to get off their dick lol.

I personally am a fan of Complexity, hopefully they'll get results with the new roster.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 12 2011 20:18 GMT
#634
Great move for root, i'm really interested to see where Slush and Kiwi go. Grats to Edward and all the guys
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 20:20:22
June 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#635
On June 13 2011 05:17 EnderCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 05:14 DueSs wrote:
lmfao at the "sold out" discussion. "Sold out" conversations always kinda make me giggle. People that have the chance to make their livelihood better by making a decision (e.g., join a major record label, join a gaming team, etc., etc., etc.) they're going to do it. Much to the chagrin of us commoners/spectators pro-gamers want to play games for a living. Obviously Complexity Gaming is helping that effort with the acquisition of ROOT.

ROOT did not "sell out"; they made a decision that they believe will advance their career. Things change. "Selling out" only means you're making progress, imo. But whatever, flame on.

Root didn't sell out. They made a smart business decision, that's the bottom line. coL on the other hand made the worst decision by not acquiring the ace players that they were already lacking. Now all they tacked on was more dead weight honestly. Unless Catz and co. start to win anything, it is an increasingly bad decision for coL.


I know bringing in a bunch of new viewers/fans. horrible!

On June 13 2011 05:18 Kennigit wrote:
Great move for root, i'm really interested to see where Slush and Kiwi go. Grats to Edward and all the guys


Like you dont have insider info on that
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 20:23:19
June 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#636
On June 13 2011 05:04 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 04:51 ROOTFayth wrote:
so minigun beating kiwi in the root invitational finals a while ago and him beating idra 2-1 in the latest clan war and him qualifying for last IPL by beating hasuobs and other good players i believe doesn't count?

is MLG the only thing that people really care about?


Minigun did win 3-2 in an online tournament for a prize worth about $600, yes. He also took an online bo3 from Idra, yes. And he did indeed managed to qualify for a 32 man tournament recently.

OK?

Again, not saying he's bad - he's clearly not, he's a good pick up for Complexity - but I don't think he's proved himself on the same level as Slush and there's not even a question as to whether he's proven himself as much as Kiwi.

MLG should be cared about far more than almost every other tournament because it has a much larger prize pool than most, has most of the best players, isn't an invitational (mostly) and is actually on LAN.
Minigun is good. Quality of a player isn't always reflected in his results.
Minigun doesn't play in a lot of events and is underrated by a lot of the community because of it.


re: MLG - only the national championships offer a lot of money, not the regular seasonal events (14k is good, don't get me wrong, but not on the same level as the other big events), it has most of the best NA players with a handful of great EU and KR players tossed in, but certainly not "most of the best players", period.

Agreed on the LAN part, though. That's always a plus over online only events.
two.watup
Profile Joined March 2011
United States371 Posts
June 12 2011 20:19 GMT
#637
coL.Destiny doesn't look as cool.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#638
On June 13 2011 05:08 ROOTFayth wrote:
the players you play against are not harder because the prize pool is larger, also I doubt most people compete in MLG for the money considering how mediocre it is (until the grand finals) it's really just a small bonus


$5,000 every couple months is the top LAN tournament you're going to get in America, isn't it? The prize pool is not "mediocre" by SC2 standards. If you want to seriously say every tournament that isn't the IPL (where he's managed to lose first round and qualify for the Ro32 as of now), NASL (which he isn't in) and the GSL (which he obviously isn't competing in) has a prize pool that's nothing more than "a small bonus" then fair enough.

If you honestly don't think a bigger prize pool attracts bigger players and then makes those players take a tournament a lot more seriously, practise harder and try to sound out their opponent then I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree and be done.


Oh well. I really don't want to trash anyone. Minigun is good, as is Drewbie, and I hope Complexity do well with their acquisition. It's just I personally view Kiwi as easily the best on the old Root roster and Slush as second best. I really don't see why that's controversial.
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Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#639
On June 13 2011 05:17 EnderCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 05:14 DueSs wrote:
lmfao at the "sold out" discussion. "Sold out" conversations always kinda make me giggle. People that have the chance to make their livelihood better by making a decision (e.g., join a major record label, join a gaming team, etc., etc., etc.) they're going to do it. Much to the chagrin of us commoners/spectators pro-gamers want to play games for a living. Obviously Complexity Gaming is helping that effort with the acquisition of ROOT.

ROOT did not "sell out"; they made a decision that they believe will advance their career. Things change. "Selling out" only means you're making progress, imo. But whatever, flame on.

Root didn't sell out. They made a smart business decision, that's the bottom line. coL on the other hand made the worst decision by not acquiring the ace players that they were already lacking. Now all they tacked on was more dead weight honestly. Unless Catz and co. start to win anything, it is an increasingly bad decision for coL.


What the fuck are you talking about? They added players equivalent to or better than the best players in their current line-up, sure they didn't get Kiwikaki or Slush, but to call the new additions "Dead weight" is really crazy.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#640
wow slush and kiwi not going says a lot. those two were pretty much the best of ROOT. i wonder who will pick them up.
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