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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#41
This match is pointless IMO for idra

The only way he makes top 2 is if Sen loses to Socke (not likely) or PainUser beats Zenio (EXTREMELY unlikely).
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TI83
Profile Joined June 2011
78 Posts
June 12 2011 17:39 GMT
#42
I'll be very hard for boxer to win with all the lag : /
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
June 12 2011 17:55 GMT
#43
On June 13 2011 02:05 SuperStyle wrote:
Well first map is heavily favored towards the zerg while 2nd is a little, 3rd however is terran favored.
Not that that means much but i expect Idra to 2-0 Boxer. In worst case scenario Boxer wins 2-1, no way he can 2-0 and no way Idra wins 2-1.


I doubt BoxeR will win 2-0, but IdrA could easily win 2-1. Both of the first two maps are definitely possible for IdrA to win, but in no way is Xel'Naga somehow un-winnable for a Z in TvZ. Xel'Naga is a pretty balanced map, but a lot of the games on the map are really old, like GSL Open Season old (aka nobody understood the game that well and every Terran all-ined, and on a 2 player map all-ins are very effective). If you look at more recent games the statistics become more and more even. Actually, since May 1st, Xel'Naga TvZ has been slightly in favor of Zergs.

(Z)IdrA 2-1 is actually my prediction, and I hope that the game goes to Xel'Naga as some of the best games I've ever seen have happened there (I don't know who remembers TLO vs Hyperdub way back in the GSL Opens, but that was a crazy long game with one of the greatest comebacks I've ever witnessed).
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
June 12 2011 18:02 GMT
#44
2-1 Idra.
Idra will win games 1 and 3. His most comfortable matchup is ZvT.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
June 12 2011 18:03 GMT
#45
i'm sure MMA informed BoxeR after he got back to the SlayerS house from MLG that all you need to do to beat idra is kill your own CC.

so with that knowledge, i don't see how BoxeR can lose
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1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
June 12 2011 18:04 GMT
#46
2-0 for Boxer
At the top of the game, we play by diferent rules.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
June 12 2011 18:05 GMT
#47
I can guarantee you BoxeR is gonna be training like mad for this match. IdrA better not take this lightly.
/commercial
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
June 12 2011 18:07 GMT
#48
2-0 to boxer
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 18:08:51
June 12 2011 18:08 GMT
#49
I haven't seen a whole lot of Boxer's play in sc2, but I'm rooting for him! From what I have seen though, he isn't as good as he was in Brood War. If I had to guess, I'd say 2-1 IdrA wins.

On June 13 2011 03:03 iyoume wrote:
i'm sure MMA informed BoxeR after he got back to the SlayerS house from MLG that all you need to do to beat idra is kill your own CC.

so with that knowledge, i don't see how BoxeR can lose


Rofl! Yes, as soon as Boxer kills his own CC, you can expect Idra to GG.
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Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
June 12 2011 18:09 GMT
#50
My brain says Idra, of course my heart says BoxeR :D.
I post only when my brain works.
Selkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States530 Posts
June 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#51
BOXERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I've been pumped for this ever since I saw the NASL rankings. I went, hmmm, who do I want to see...

The first match.

TLO V Artosis

The last match


Hyped up for this.

Being a boxer fan, gonna say 2-1 for Boxer, and possibly some remarks from him at the start =)
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
June 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#52
hmm when is this live actually?
Fleebenworth
Profile Joined April 2011
463 Posts
June 12 2011 18:11 GMT
#53
Wouldn't Boxer by in contention for overall #1 seed if he beats Idra? That alone is reason enough not to try. Thanks to the silliness that is the NASL bracketing system, no one in their right mind wants the #1 seed.
lee365
Profile Joined December 2010
United States448 Posts
June 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#54
Cella said Boxer's been practicing 14 hours a day. Boxer 2-1
Terran Fighting! NoSoupfOu.517
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
June 12 2011 18:13 GMT
#55
On June 13 2011 00:27 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 23:31 Arisen wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:23 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On June 12 2011 23:20 Arisen wrote:
BoxeR doesn't stand a chance if the games go past the 10 minute mark...his best chance is to do a FE into some sort of all in, because if he tries to play a macro game with the best ZvT outside of Korea, he's going to be a sad, sad, Panda

You underestimate BoxeR. Nobody gave him a chance against Sen in TSL, but he beat Sen, and he did it again here in NASL. So he beat someone who gives IdrA serious competition for the title of best non-Korean Zerg, and he did it twice. With lag.


No, I don't underestimate boxer. Watch the games versus Zenio, then imagine that, but with better control/decision making from the zerg...that's what the matches are going to be if they don't end early. BoxeR's great, but he just doesn't have the mechanics to stand up to IdrA in a long game. Sure, he beat sEN, but sEN's forte lies in a totally different area then IdrA's (attack sense, unit control, he's also very aggressive, compared to IdrA's much more passive style with impeccable macro/decision making).


Zenio is better than IdrA


Zenio's ZvZ is better than IdrA's. Zenio's ZvT and ZvP are not nearly at the level that IdrA is at. IdrA's TvZ is one of the best in the world and BoxeR will have a very hard time dealing with it. However, while IdrA's standard play is really good, you never know exactly what BoxeR will do. Hopefully these games will be better than Zenio vs BoxeR, and frankly I hope that BoxeR wins ^^
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
June 12 2011 18:17 GMT
#56
On June 13 2011 03:13 lee365 wrote:
Cella said Boxer's been practicing 14 hours a day. Boxer 2-1


That's almost as many hours as I watch starcraft LOL.

GO BOXER GO!!!.. If he's been training that much, it probably means he's really focused on expanding his empire by conquering NA.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
June 12 2011 18:21 GMT
#57
Boxer 2-1~! FIGHTINGGGG
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
629 Posts
June 12 2011 18:25 GMT
#58
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Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
June 12 2011 18:25 GMT
#59
Boxer will shock everyone by playing the match as protoss, will hallucinate a bunch of void rays and then proceed to destroy his own nexus, forcing the inevitable gg from Idra.

But on a serious note, I think Boxer 2-1.
They're fools. You should eat them.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
June 12 2011 18:31 GMT
#60
when's this game? Sorry for asking
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
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