EPTIssue with NASL First Seed vs Open Winner - Page 13
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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PuercoPop
Peru277 Posts
The first seasons are part of a transitory state. Remember the Top8 of the OpenTournament get into Season2 so with each iteration the better players will be in the main season and top seed will probably give an easier opponent. It is a good system for steady state. With each iteration it corrects its own flaws. I only watch the GSL but ocasionally tune to the NASL and always has some good games each day. | ||
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thepuppyassassin
900 Posts
So including the other Koreans in the top 8 of the open bracket, I'm counting about 14 Koreans who are definitely getting an invite to the next season. I'm also thinking more Koreans will get in via qualfiers. Now i'm not sure how the qualifier works.. but if we simply go by the same stats as the open bracket (lets say another 5 get in). That's 19 Koreans in the next season out of 50 players in the group stages. Correct me if I'm wrong.. but isn't this what the tournament admins NOT want? )something about it being a North American tournament and all that jazz). | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:17 thepuppyassassin wrote: Geez another Korean in the grand finals. I didn't know that GSL changed venues. So including the other Koreans in the top 8 of the open bracket, I'm counting about 14 Koreans who are definitely getting an invite to the next season. I'm also thinking more Koreans will get in via qualfiers. Now i'm not sure how the qualifier works.. but if we simply go by the same stats as the open bracket (lets say another 5 get in). That's 19 Koreans in the next season out of 50 players in the group stages. Correct me if I'm wrong.. but isn't this what the tournament admins NOT want? )something about it being a North American tournament and all that jazz). NA means the games are played on the NA servers, that's it Anyone willing to play on our servers can participate. | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:19 SafeAsCheese wrote: NA means the games are played on the NA servers, that's it Anyone willing to play on our servers can participate. The point hes trying to make is, its a north american league and eventually the league is going to be dominated by mostly koreans. It would be like the gsl being dominated by over 50% north americans, do you think thats something the gsl would want? | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:17 thepuppyassassin wrote: Geez another Korean in the grand finals. I didn't know that GSL changed venues. So including the other Koreans in the top 8 of the open bracket, I'm counting about 14 Koreans who are definitely getting an invite to the next season. I'm also thinking more Koreans will get in via qualfiers. Now i'm not sure how the qualifier works.. but if we simply go by the same stats as the open bracket (lets say another 5 get in). That's 19 Koreans in the next season out of 50 players in the group stages. Correct me if I'm wrong.. but isn't this what the tournament admins NOT want? )something about it being a North American tournament and all that jazz). Your numbers are a bit off. In the main bracket of NASL1 there are 9 koreans (1 of which is select... so 8.5 koreans? lol). In the open tournament, 5 koreans qualified for NASL2 (2 of which also got into the main bracket of NASL1). So that makes a total of 11 koreans + select. There are only 4 spots available from the NASL2 qualifier (they are only have 45 people next season I believe). The qualifier has already been played and all 4 were korean. That makes a total of 15 koreans + select. And I believe ensnare qualified for season 2 (ranked 33) but wasn't high enough to make the playoffs. So there should be a total of 16 + Select next season. About what the admins want... I think they just want the best players and to put on the best tournament. I don't think they really care if there are a ton of koreans. | ||
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Smurphy
United States374 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:26 laharl23 wrote: The point hes trying to make is, its a north american league and eventually the league is going to be dominated by mostly koreans. It would be like the gsl being dominated by over 50% north americans, do you think thats something the gsl would want? Your analogy doesn't work too well. The "NA" in NASL stands for North America. The "G" in GSL stands for "Global". Since the "G" in GSL stands for "Global" AND because America is a wealthy consumer nations that's great for advertisers and generating revenue... yes, I do think the GSL wants their league to be dominated by North Americans. | ||
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Imres
515 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
There, all problems solved. | ||
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Imres
515 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:59 Bobster wrote: The bottom 4 seeds including the Open winner should be pooled, and the first 4 seeds should be able to choose their Ro16 opponents from that pool. There, all problems solved. Yeah but according to Xeris it wasn't a problem... People proposed a good amount of viable solution, and they still fucked up. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On July 10 2011 02:06 acrimoneyius wrote: Ret gets rewarded by facing arguably the strongest player in the tournament Not as unlucky as having to face MC like boxer xD | ||
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Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:26 laharl23 wrote: The point hes trying to make is, its a north american league and eventually the league is going to be dominated by mostly koreans. It would be like the gsl being dominated by over 50% north americans, do you think thats something the gsl would want? ideally people want to watch the best players possible.. premier league, serie a and la liga isnt exactly dominated by english, italian and spanish players | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
On July 10 2011 02:08 Olinim wrote: Not as unlucky as having to face MC like boxer xD What's funny is boxer had an advantage in game 2 and botched it with his decision to attack MC's third instead of clashing armies. Boxer is pretty strong, but small things hold him back. | ||
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MaxField
United States2386 Posts
On July 10 2011 02:08 Irrelevant wrote: Why does everyone care so much about race and nationality isn't the goal of esports to watch the best of the best playing? Yes it is, but even in huge tournaments like March Madness, Top teams ranked #1 are put against the Weakest of the Top teams. That way they get rewarded for playing better than the other teams during the regular season. Sorting into the bracket makes or breaks certain teams. This is why people were upset about the way NASL did it. They believed that Ret was playing a harder opponent becuase the Open Bracket Winner was likely better than many of the other people who qualified, and I agree with this. | ||
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Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
On July 10 2011 02:13 MaxField wrote: Yes it is, but even in huge tournaments like March Madness, Top teams ranked #1 are put against the Weakest of the Top teams. That way they get rewarded for playing better than the other teams during the regular season. Sorting into the bracket makes or breaks certain teams. This is why people were upset about the way NASL did it. They believed that Ret was playing a harder opponent becuase the Open Bracket Winner was likely better than many of the other people who qualified, and I agree with this. I don't disagree with that. However half the pages in this thread are full with "koreans shouldn't be allowed in a NORTH AMERICAN league, or only a very small amount!" Yet no one says anything about Euro players... | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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FeeL_ThE_RusH
Ireland227 Posts
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