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On June 02 2011 17:16 JKira wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:11 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:07 syllogism wrote:
And yes, it's completely unfair for July to have to go through open bracket after winning CSH and MC just gets gifted his seeded spot I agree it sucks for July and maybe they should have given the spot to him and had the runner up of the CotH tourny take July's spot, but to blame MC and to say its unfair for the players in group c is just silly... Unfortunately there's not much they can do. CSN decided to run a tourney to send a Korean player to MLG without any partnership with MLG. They're paying for his travel expenses (I think) and stuff, but there's little they could have done to promise a direct seed into group play. The MLG-GSL exchange program was announced much later than CSN's thing, and they are not related to each other at all. It's not like GSL was like yo MC yo are better than July so we are going to give you the better seed and July can fight his way through open bracket.
I am not arguing that MC shouldn't be there, I'm very happy that he is going, was just pointing out how silly it is to say that MC has gained an advantage over the other players in group C.
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On June 02 2011 17:01 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:01 Mitchlew wrote:On June 02 2011 17:00 syllogism wrote:
MC will be in the open bracket right? Because seeding him at this point would be unfair given the fact no one else gets seeded after the groups are locked and the players in that group have prepared for certain matchups don't think so, he will just replace ST bomber. Otherwise group numbers are uneven. They should just give everyone a walkover. A bad decision if that's what they are doing. More korean special treatment.
I don't know how to argue against this. I'd say you're the winner.
Congratulation.
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thats fantastic news, i dont know if I want MC to win the entire thing or to lose to foriegners the way hes so confident!!! lol
Im just hoping this doesnt mean a Korean 1,2 and 3 now 
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On June 02 2011 15:45 WhiteraCares wrote:They've played eachother before in the Dreamhack Stockholm Invitational. Just thought i'd point that out since alot of people seem to think it's the first time. Idra actually made MC look mortal.
I know it's happened, it's still epic for a first game.
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On June 02 2011 17:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:16 JKira wrote:On June 02 2011 17:11 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:07 syllogism wrote:
And yes, it's completely unfair for July to have to go through open bracket after winning CSH and MC just gets gifted his seeded spot I agree it sucks for July and maybe they should have given the spot to him and had the runner up of the CotH tourny take July's spot, but to blame MC and to say its unfair for the players in group c is just silly... Unfortunately there's not much they can do. CSN decided to run a tourney to send a Korean player to MLG without any partnership with MLG. They're paying for his travel expenses (I think) and stuff, but there's little they could have done to promise a direct seed into group play. The MLG-GSL exchange program was announced much later than CSN's thing, and they are not related to each other at all. It's not like GSL was like yo MC yo are better than July so we are going to give you the better seed and July can fight his way through open bracket. I am not arguing that MC shouldn't be there, I'm very happy that he is going, was just pointing out how silly it is to say that MC has gained an advantage over the other players in group C.
It's pretty silly to say that MC is at an advantage over players in his group. He isn't any more prepared to play against them than they are prepared to play against him - and will be jetlagged on top of it. If anything, group C just got ever so slightly easier (assuming MC and Bomber are of roughly equal 'general skill', anyway)
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MLG is gonna be amazing...
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On June 02 2011 17:19 TDN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:01 syllogism wrote:On June 02 2011 17:01 Mitchlew wrote:On June 02 2011 17:00 syllogism wrote:
MC will be in the open bracket right? Because seeding him at this point would be unfair given the fact no one else gets seeded after the groups are locked and the players in that group have prepared for certain matchups don't think so, he will just replace ST bomber. Otherwise group numbers are uneven. They should just give everyone a walkover. A bad decision if that's what they are doing. More korean special treatment. I don't know how to argue against this. I'd say you're the winner. Congratulation.
I sincerely hope you were being sarcastic..... If not
The way to argue against that: stop being so foreigner biased and open your eyes... MC gains no advantage over the other players in the group(The only person who has a right to complain is July who won a tourny to get his spot in open bracket.) he has just as little(if not less due to travel time) preparation time for these matches, at least the other competitors knew who they were playing in every other match except the vs bomber match and prepared for it accordingly...
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On June 02 2011 17:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:14 sc14s wrote:On June 02 2011 17:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:11 sc14s wrote:On June 02 2011 17:09 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:06 sc14s wrote:On June 02 2011 17:04 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:01 syllogism wrote:On June 02 2011 17:01 Mitchlew wrote:On June 02 2011 17:00 syllogism wrote:
MC will be in the open bracket right? Because seeding him at this point would be unfair given the fact no one else gets seeded after the groups are locked and the players in that group have prepared for certain matchups don't think so, he will just replace ST bomber. Otherwise group numbers are uneven. They should just give everyone a walkover. A bad decision if that's what they are doing. More korean special treatment. Korean special treatment??? your fucking joking right? seriously look at the situation here, no one really gains an advantage out of this... Fuck, this isn't even the LR thread yet and bias.whine posts are already popping up... going to be fun when Idra loses... /sarcasm chillax broski, dont need to give yourself a heart attack over silly text =S P.S your bias is showing  If by bias you mean my hate for Idra, it was never hidden I don't like cry babies and espcially cry babies who have fans that ruin entire LR threads. I do apologize if I come across as upset, I am just tired of threads being ruined with useless QQ is all  I actually dont dislike idra, hes an avg raging nerd who happens to be not so average at the game... cant really hate on him without being a hypocrite, now blind fanboys, they do get annoying i wont lie. Really though those arent exclusive to idra... Yes, raging fanboys aren't exclusive to Idra, obviously. But it seems that More so then not it is Idra fan boys who whine and QQ for 20+ pages in LR threads whenever a zerg(not even Idra) loses, merely because Idra complains about the matchup.... Well dont hate on Idra just for the fact that other people are bitching in a LR thread  I don't 'hate' Idra just because of his fans... I hate Idra because I find him to be an insufferable cry baby, I will admit he is a great player but I despise his attitude(which unfortunately rubs off on his fans...) Though I did gain respect for him on the SotG the other night when he stated he won't wont change his attitude just because people don't like it, but even with that I despise his out look on the games and how he reacts to losing.
well you do realize a very large portion of the population rages in video games, yes me too , esp when it feels like you shouldnt have lost, which to most people is usually never. Sure idra rages but so does alot of other people. The other thing i see people critique him about, which i find a little silly, is when he doesnt gg, It really is a difference of opinions here, personally i feel if it wasnt a GG i wont gg, he does the same thing, its not like you HAVE to say gg at the end of the game, I really feel people have to get away from this crap about having huge biases towards players. IRL most people arent so bad if you get to know them.. especially if they have the same passion for similar interests
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Hoping for a ThorZaiN vs MC Rematch!
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On June 02 2011 17:23 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:18 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:16 JKira wrote:On June 02 2011 17:11 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:07 syllogism wrote:
And yes, it's completely unfair for July to have to go through open bracket after winning CSH and MC just gets gifted his seeded spot I agree it sucks for July and maybe they should have given the spot to him and had the runner up of the CotH tourny take July's spot, but to blame MC and to say its unfair for the players in group c is just silly... Unfortunately there's not much they can do. CSN decided to run a tourney to send a Korean player to MLG without any partnership with MLG. They're paying for his travel expenses (I think) and stuff, but there's little they could have done to promise a direct seed into group play. The MLG-GSL exchange program was announced much later than CSN's thing, and they are not related to each other at all. It's not like GSL was like yo MC yo are better than July so we are going to give you the better seed and July can fight his way through open bracket. I am not arguing that MC shouldn't be there, I'm very happy that he is going, was just pointing out how silly it is to say that MC has gained an advantage over the other players in group C. It's pretty silly to say that MC is at an advantage over players in his group. He isn't any more prepared to play against them than they are prepared to play against him - and will be jetlagged on top of it. If anything, group C just got ever so slightly easier (assuming MC and Bomber are of roughly equal 'general skill', anyway) You would thin its silly to say that... yet i've spent my last 3-4 posts explaining to people how insane it is to say the other players in group c are at a huge dis advantage....
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Idra gonna be so mad ^^ He's always complaining about korean protoss. Will be interesting to watch however since he was actually quite close to cracking MC at dreamhack, and since then zerg have really been clawing their way back into the running in that matchup.
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Lol July, in the Open bracket ... oh dear lordy!
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On June 02 2011 17:28 kuroshiro wrote:
Idra gonna be so mad ^^ He's always complaining about korean protoss. Will be interesting to watch however since he was actually quite close to cracking MC at dreamhack, and since then zerg have really been clawing their way back into the running in that matchup.
Ya it will definitely be an interesting match up, and zergs have been doing well since. Really there was only a brief moment of MC winning the GSL and Cruncher beating IdrA that made everyone overreact, but now it is clear that zergs are doing fine so hopefully he will be in a better mindset to beat MC.
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On June 02 2011 17:25 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 17:16 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:14 sc14s wrote:On June 02 2011 17:13 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:11 sc14s wrote:On June 02 2011 17:09 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:06 sc14s wrote:On June 02 2011 17:04 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 02 2011 17:01 syllogism wrote:On June 02 2011 17:01 Mitchlew wrote:
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don't think so, he will just replace ST bomber. Otherwise group numbers are uneven. They should just give everyone a walkover. A bad decision if that's what they are doing. More korean special treatment. Korean special treatment??? your fucking joking right? seriously look at the situation here, no one really gains an advantage out of this... Fuck, this isn't even the LR thread yet and bias.whine posts are already popping up... going to be fun when Idra loses... /sarcasm chillax broski, dont need to give yourself a heart attack over silly text =S P.S your bias is showing If by bias you mean my hate for Idra, it was never hidden I don't like cry babies and espcially cry babies who have fans that ruin entire LR threads. I do apologize if I come across as upset, I am just tired of threads being ruined with useless QQ is all I actually dont dislike idra, hes an avg raging nerd who happens to be not so average at the game... cant really hate on him without being a hypocrite, now blind fanboys, they do get annoying i wont lie. Really though those arent exclusive to idra... Yes, raging fanboys aren't exclusive to Idra, obviously. But it seems that More so then not it is Idra fan boys who whine and QQ for 20+ pages in LR threads whenever a zerg(not even Idra) loses, merely because Idra complains about the matchup.... Well dont hate on Idra just for the fact that other people are bitching in a LR thread I don't 'hate' Idra just because of his fans... I hate Idra because I find him to be an insufferable cry baby, I will admit he is a great player but I despise his attitude(which unfortunately rubs off on his fans...) Though I did gain respect for him on the SotG the other night when he stated he won't wont change his attitude just because people don't like it, but even with that I despise his out look on the games and how he reacts to losing. well you do realize a very large portion of the population rages in video games, yes me too , esp when it feels like you shouldnt have lost, which to most people is usually never. Sure idra rages but so does alot of other people. The other thing i see people critique him about, which i find a little silly, is when he doesnt gg, It really is a difference of opinions here, personally i feel if it wasnt a GG i wont gg, he does the same thing, its not like you HAVE to say gg at the end of the game, I really feel people have to get away from this crap about having huge biases towards players. IRL most people arent so bad if you get to know them.. especially if they have the same passion for similar interests
I understand raging, I have no problem with that. Idra how ever bring it to a whole new level, every lose is either because his opponent used an "all in no skill" strat or his race is "OP" never has Idra lost because he was simply outplayed. I have 0 problem with not GG'ing, I don't gg in probably close to 50% of my lost games due to frustration, but the constant whine and BM of Idra just annoys me, some find it entertaining and if you do thats your opinion and until recently I thought it was hilarious but its grown tiresome for me he's turning into the Sydney Crosby of sc2 great skill but a constant whiner and I despise that(This coming from a Canadian, his gold medal goal glroy can only last so long...)
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Not that MC is a bad choice but I don't understand why tourneys aren't inviting Nestea. Is he just too good to invite or what. He deserves some invites to foreign tournaments
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Lads, get the body bags, we are gona have a massacre.
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Awesome! Good luck to both of them, looking forward to some exciting matches
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