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RAGE e-Sports is back with a new line-up starting this June, with it's new players very motivated to prove their worth on the Starcraft II tournament scene. Returning after a 2 month hiatus due to the departures of Kalin " Kalin" Romanov and Vesa " Welmu" Hovinen RAGE e-Sports has been short two players. During the past few months we've been intensely looking for players who could fill the shoes of the departed players and in the end two very valuable players were signed.
Marc-Olivier " desRow" Proulx has been a competitive RTS player for 7 years now. He started in Starcraft: Brood War doing Big Game Hunters and moved on to Warcraft III when he was old enough to grasp the game and be good at it. He went semi-pro in Warcaft III but got bored of it due to the luck factor. He hopped on to DotA after Warcraft 3 and played for successful teams such as eMg and finished 2nd in a ESL Master cup series. He's been playing full time for the past 6 months and also been coaching part time for about a month now. desRow is rated top100 on US ladder and plans to attend as many LAN events as possible.
Thomas " CupCake" Glinski, formerly knows as ThomasG has been in Warcraft III's elite until he decided to switch over to Starcraft II last year. He's participated in numerous tournaments like Stars War Shanghai, WCG Los Angeles and ESWC Paris 2010 and he's looking to do the same in Starcraft II. He's rated top 50 on EU ladder.
We were carefully picking candidates for new RAGE.eSports SC2 roster during last two months to ensure that the team will be capable to achive good results at the highest level and bring us back to the positions we had in 2010. And today we're ready to announce line-up consisiting of four players who already proved themselves as real professionals ready to face the challenge. RAGE e-Sports Co-Owner "Dmitriy Astremskiy"
Today is a great day for me. I've been looking for a solid and professional team for a while now and I'm extremely excited to be joining RAGE-esports. When I was looking for a team, the biggest factor for me was getting accomodations to be able to attend an MLG event. During the negotiations between me and RAGE-esports, it was made clear to me by the organisation that not only would I be sent to MLG Anaheim, but they also promised they'd assist in me attending all future MLG iterations, provided my results in the first one are sufficient. I want to thanks my fans for their undying support and I hope to show good game. RAGE e-Sports player "Marc-Olivier Proulx"
Hi everyone! Today is the start of a new era for me as I join RAGE e-Sports. They seem like a very serious team where I can develop as a player and prove myself at LAN events, the first being Dreamhack Summer ! The other players in the team seem great so I will have the best possible chance to get better and hopefully reach the heights of my Warcraft III career. Cheer for us! RAGE e-Sports player "Thomas Glinski"
RAGE e-Sports SCII roster:
Marc-Olivier " desRow" Proulx Thomas " CupCake Glinski Vasile " Cyclone" Ciurla Tuna " Memphis" Ilgaz
Links:
http://www.facebook.com/rageesports http://www.twitter.com/rageesports http://www.facebook.com/desRowfighting http://www.facebook.com/followCupCake
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Congratulations
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good pickups ! gogo CupCake
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Congrats to both players. Looking forward to seeing Desrow play in MLG. Nice pick ups RAGE
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Congrats to everyone. Thanks RAGE and can't wait to see desRow in MLG!! gogo des
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Zere, the site will be going offline tomorrow to be moved to another server and it's to be taken off beta too. i`ll just remove the website link for now. thanks
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Isn't this the same team that signed BigT?
Edit: Congrats DesRow!
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Congratulations CupCake and DesRow, best of luck
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Congrats both of you :D Love you Desrow, Peace! :D
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On May 30 2011 05:37 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Isn't this the same team that signed BigT?
It was a long time ago with different management
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On May 30 2011 05:38 Broesly wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 05:37 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Isn't this the same team that signed BigT? It was a long time ago with different management 
Ah good to hear, my faith has been restored! Should be good for DesRow then! DesRow fighting!
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Very happy for desrow, and i will most likely be keeping an eye on RAGE now that he's playing for them. Gogo desrow.
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Been a fan of desRow's stream for a couple of weeks, glad to see him doing well.
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CupCake is a beast! Nice pickup by RAGE imo
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Yeah Desrow!! He wont let this team down at all!!
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desrow is the shit, good pick
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Desrow is the man. My favourite stream to watch. I love the coaching being streamed. good luck with everything Rage + Desrow
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I allways watch desrow when he is streaming! Good pick!
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I think this should be a beneficial relationship to both the team and the new members  desRow's stream has been entertaining in the last months, I hope he can put some results at MLG Anaheim.
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On May 30 2011 05:35 zere wrote:According to your website, there are still Welmu, Seala, Daut and Actionjesuz (praise the Lord!), are they still in? Welmu is in eXelon Gaming. I don't know about the others.
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first thought it was Rage gaming with cytoplasm and fury, too many rages!
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grumpy guy banned me in chat when I pointed out what his strategy was bad.
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Desrow left vVv already? Classy...
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Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month.
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Its going to be great seeing desrow possibly get a chance to compete in some of the larger tournaments in the future. Hadn't really heard much about team Rage until desrow announced it was the new team he would be playing for. Will definitely be following the team closer now.
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On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true?
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I like Desrow's stream, funny guy GL HF
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Nice silver comment im Master bro. do a good build.
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too bad Rage isnt as big as FXO cause if that was the case this topic would end up in community news...
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On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month.
He whats to go to big tournaments and by doing that he has to pick the teams that will take him there.
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On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true?
he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE.
so I don't give this very long at all.
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On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all.
Yes.
It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams.
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What exactly was the "luck" factor in WC3?? lol If Rage doesn't work out for him, maybe sixjax can pick him up so he and GosiTerran/Kitty/Princess/Britney/Major/LadyGaga can rack up frequent flyer miles together.
Best of luck to Rage- gotta love any team that picks up ActionJesuz..
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Isnt Desrow the guy who beat Incontrol in a replay and has a personally sponsored stream by Thermaltake?
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On May 30 2011 06:30 AimForTheBushes wrote: What exactly was the "luck" factor in WC3?? lol If Rage doesn't work out for him, maybe sixjax can pick him up so he and GosiTerran/Kitty/Princess/Britney/Major/LadyGaga can rack up frequent flyer miles together.
Best of luck to Rage- gotta love any team that picks up ActionJesuz..
Yo man don't flame Gositerran. He may be a clan hopper but hes ultra skilled. Expect big things from him.
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On May 30 2011 06:31 Senx wrote: Isnt Desrow the guy who beat Incontrol in a replay and has a personally sponsored stream by Thermaltake? How do you beat someone in a replay?
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On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams.
Desrow left VT. It wasnt his skill level he was a very strong player. It was VT was attacking him. So dont talk about stuff that you dont know. Thanks.
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On May 30 2011 06:31 nathangonmad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:30 AimForTheBushes wrote: What exactly was the "luck" factor in WC3?? lol If Rage doesn't work out for him, maybe sixjax can pick him up so he and GosiTerran/Kitty/Princess/Britney/Major/LadyGaga can rack up frequent flyer miles together.
Best of luck to Rage- gotta love any team that picks up ActionJesuz.. Yo man don't flame Gositerran. He may be a clan hopper but hes ultra skilled. Expect big things from him.
Wait, what? At what point did I flame or even reference his skill level? Of course he's a very good player..though I might argue if we'll see "big things" from him..but that discussion is neither here nor there.. -_-
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On May 30 2011 06:32 blackone wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:31 Senx wrote: Isnt Desrow the guy who beat Incontrol in a replay and has a personally sponsored stream by Thermaltake? How do you beat someone in a replay?
He went to x8 faster than incontrol and beat him to the end of the replay, therefore winning. What are you a noob at competitive replay watching?
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On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams.
Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash.
though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either.
if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity
On May 30 2011 06:34 KingP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Desrow left VT. It wasnt his skill level he was a very strong player. It was VT was attacking him. So dont talk about stuff that you dont know. Thanks.
he was kicked for being a backstabber. he would trash his teammates on stream and would cause a ton of drama in the team. He was kicked because he was rude and cocky.
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rage esports? is that the same as RAGE gaming?
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So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy.
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On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity
Can you not talk about things that you dont know.. So get a life and stop trolling on a strong player. that you'll never be. Thanks
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On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy.
he knows my real name too. if he ever once metions me in a post. I will take action and will report his stream content toward me to justin.tv and tt esports
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On May 30 2011 06:39 KingP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity Can you not talk about things that you dont know.. So get a life and stop trolling on a strong player. that you'll never be. Thanks You have 6 posts and all of them are talking up Desrow. Forum smurf account? :p
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On May 30 2011 06:36 Influ wrote: rage esports? is that the same as RAGE gaming?
Nope.
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he was kicked for being a backstabber. masterbreti if ur not on either of these teams how do u know that he got kicked 4 being a backstabber i would like 2 see ur source of info
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On May 30 2011 06:39 KingP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity Can you not talk about things that you dont know.. So get a life and stop trolling on a strong player. that you'll never be. Thanks
Maybe you should enlighten us then instead of flaming that guy. Apparentely Desrow just did some shit on his stream, only reinforcing that guys point
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On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:34 KingP wrote:On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Desrow left VT. It wasnt his skill level he was a very strong player. It was VT was attacking him. So dont talk about stuff that you dont know. Thanks. he was kicked for being a backstabber. he would trash his teammates on stream and would cause a ton of drama in the team. He was kicked because he was rude and cocky.
Desrow hopes a girl breaks your heart, cause dying in a pit was a little too harsh.
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that not only would I sent to MLG Anaheim, but they also promised they'd assist in me attending all future MLG iterations, provided my results in the first one are sufficient.
Typo in bold: missing "be"
Congrats and let's hope you do well at MLG.
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On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy.
So, going by Idra precedent, shouldn't Desrow face the banhammer for encouraging spamming the forums????
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On May 30 2011 06:41 Eoghalrawrzz wrote:masterbreti if ur not on either of these teams how do u know that he got kicked 4 being a backstabber i would like 2 see ur source of info
Whiplash metioned it a few times on his stream.
Aslo desrow left suddenly from VT. most of their players who have left would have gotten a goodbye news post of something. he was not given that, he simply disappeared from VT. So take that as you may but that alone shows that feelings there was not on good terms.
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hopefully bidoux isn't part of RAGE anymore!
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Who are these sub 20 post count accounts? Are they Desrow smurfs or something?
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On May 30 2011 06:43 AimForTheBushes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy. So, going by Idra precedent, shouldn't Desrow face the banhammer for encouraging spamming the forums???? 
They're almost similar, I don't see why not, though there is little proof unless someone recorded it. That and no one has done it~
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On May 30 2011 06:42 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +that not only would I sent to MLG Anaheim, but they also promised they'd assist in me attending all future MLG iterations, provided my results in the first one are sufficient. Typo in bold: missing "be" Congrats and let's hope you do well at MLG.
thanks. fixed.
Guys, please, keep it civil.
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This isn't the Rage gaming which has FuRy and Cytoplasm but a different multigaming organization altogether.
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Whiplash metioned it a few times on his stream.
soo cuz 1 person i have never heard of said it means its true well following that logic u r gay (that means u obviously love penis)
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 30 2011 06:40 Mairu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:39 KingP wrote:On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity Can you not talk about things that you dont know.. So get a life and stop trolling on a strong player. that you'll never be. Thanks You have 6 posts and all of them are talking up Desrow. Forum smurf account? :p
I had this for a little i never used it and now its seemed it would be a good time to.
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On May 30 2011 06:45 Eoghalrawrzz wrote:soo cuz 1 person i have never heard of said it means its true well following that logic u r gay (that means u obviously love penis)
This some sort of desrow smurf accounts to help defend him?
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On May 30 2011 06:34 KingP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Desrow left VT. It wasnt his skill level he was a very strong player. It was VT was attacking him. So dont talk about stuff that you dont know. Thanks. Don't talk about stuff that you don't know.
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I've actually haven't heard of Cupcake much to be honest, is he going to any notable LAN events soon?
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This some sort of desrow smurf accounts to help defend him?
nope not desrow just dont read forums alot mainly just watch streams and do my liquibets or w/e the hell they r called u can check my posts i have stuff posted from weeks ago
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On May 30 2011 06:40 Mairu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:39 KingP wrote:On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity Can you not talk about things that you dont know.. So get a life and stop trolling on a strong player. that you'll never be. Thanks You have 6 posts and all of them are talking up Desrow. Forum smurf account? :p
I would say that his students and the hundreds of people watching him daily that learn a lot from his stream love him and understand why he "yells at his students" (who usually buy more follow up sessions), but sure you watched 5 minutes and decided he's bad mannered. And he explained countless times on his stream why it didn't work out with the previous teams, but why would you stop to listen?
Please get his number of loyal fans before saying that he will "fade into obscurity". People like you are the reason that I don't see the point in posting on TL...
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Why is it that every rage team I see; ALWAYS capitalizes "RAGE"? Anyway, great pickups and best of luck boys!
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On May 30 2011 06:53 KeyHunt wrote:Why is it that every rage team I see; ALWAYS capitalizes "RAGE"? Anyway, great pickups and best of luck boys!
RG-Esports
I think it's just an acronym.
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didnt follow desrow too much but thomasg was indeed a very strong wc3 player and is also quite a good sc2 player. i'd like to see more of him
and where is the talent squad? do teams not realize there are hundrets of players who would kill for a chance to shine without asking for money?
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On May 30 2011 06:43 AimForTheBushes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy. So, going by Idra precedent, shouldn't Desrow face the banhammer for encouraging spamming the forums???? 
The main difference between these situations is that idra was inciting his fans to attack a moderator whereas this was an comment made mostly in jest about a guy who was spreading false information. It was a glib comment that he probably shouldn't have said, but he just does get annoyed with haters a bit, but imo he's a brilliant coach and actually a really nice guy.
EDIT: oh and also that was all off topic so anyway good luck to both of the new players and i hope they both have lots of success
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On May 30 2011 06:50 sims89 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:40 Mairu wrote:On May 30 2011 06:39 KingP wrote:On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity Can you not talk about things that you dont know.. So get a life and stop trolling on a strong player. that you'll never be. Thanks You have 6 posts and all of them are talking up Desrow. Forum smurf account? :p I would say that his students and the hundreds of people watching him daily that learn a lot from his stream love him and understand why he "yells at his students" (who usually buy more follow up sessions), but sure you watched 5 minutes and decided he's bad mannered. And he explained countless times on his stream why it didn't work out with the previous teams, but why would you stop to listen? Please get his number of loyal fans before saying that he will "fade into obscurity". People like you are the reason that I don't see the point in posting on TL...
Thanks Sims89. You know what im trying to say!
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On May 30 2011 06:45 Eoghalrawrzz wrote:soo cuz 1 person i have never heard of said it means its true well following that logic u r gay (that means u obviously love penis) User was temp banned for this post.
He's part of VT Gaming O_O
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Good to hear Desrow! Congrats
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Best of luck, Desrow. Don't listen to haters. You may have your flaws, but who the hell doesn't? Thumbs up, gogo, sire.
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Grats on the new team! Keep up the great commentary on your stream. A lot better than music, and provides good insights (even when they don't work out). Currently my second favorite stream after Kelz!
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people are really putting out some RAGE, in the rage e-sports here. Why can't people be civil in these matters. Well never mind, this is the internet.
Lets just say congratulations to CupCake and Desrow and RAGE e-sports
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Good choice for Rage, Desrow is such a baller. <3
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On May 30 2011 06:45 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:43 AimForTheBushes wrote:On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy. So, going by Idra precedent, shouldn't Desrow face the banhammer for encouraging spamming the forums????  They're almost similar, I don't see why not, though there is little proof unless someone recorded it. That and no one has done it~ I've been streaming since this post went live, unless I have a laptop and 20 neighbours without a pw on their wireless, it's not me. sorry to let you down :D
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On May 30 2011 07:10 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:45 Torte de Lini wrote:On May 30 2011 06:43 AimForTheBushes wrote:On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy. So, going by Idra precedent, shouldn't Desrow face the banhammer for encouraging spamming the forums????  They're almost similar, I don't see why not, though there is little proof unless someone recorded it. That and no one has done it~ I've been streaming since this post went live, unless I have a laptop and 20 neighbours without a pw on their wireless, it's not me. sorry to let you down :D
I think you're quoting the wrong post champ. No one in this segment of posts is talking about possible dupe accounts.
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gl desrow, hope u doing well there also gl at dreamhack !
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On May 30 2011 07:11 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:10 desrow wrote:On May 30 2011 06:45 Torte de Lini wrote:On May 30 2011 06:43 AimForTheBushes wrote:On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy. So, going by Idra precedent, shouldn't Desrow face the banhammer for encouraging spamming the forums????  They're almost similar, I don't see why not, though there is little proof unless someone recorded it. That and no one has done it~ I've been streaming since this post went live, unless I have a laptop and 20 neighbours without a pw on their wireless, it's not me. sorry to let you down :D I think you're quoting the wrong post champ. No one in this segment of posts is talking about possible dupe accounts.
fail quote indeed :D
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Haters gonna hate.
Good luck in your new team desrow and hope we see more of you in upcoming tournaments !
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Gratz dude
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Congrats Desrow! Love you and your stream! tihi <3
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On May 30 2011 07:12 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:11 Torte de Lini wrote:On May 30 2011 07:10 desrow wrote:On May 30 2011 06:45 Torte de Lini wrote:On May 30 2011 06:43 AimForTheBushes wrote:On May 30 2011 06:39 Beefwipe wrote: So on desrow's stream now;
"guys can you go quote this masterbreti guy and tell him to die in a pit"
Desrow is a really nice guy. So, going by Idra precedent, shouldn't Desrow face the banhammer for encouraging spamming the forums????  They're almost similar, I don't see why not, though there is little proof unless someone recorded it. That and no one has done it~ I've been streaming since this post went live, unless I have a laptop and 20 neighbours without a pw on their wireless, it's not me. sorry to let you down :D I think you're quoting the wrong post champ. No one in this segment of posts is talking about possible dupe accounts. fail quote indeed :D
Here you go: On May 30 2011 06:40 Mairu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:39 KingP wrote:On May 30 2011 06:36 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:29 Beefwipe wrote:On May 30 2011 06:24 masterbreti wrote:On May 30 2011 06:21 CoffeeToss wrote:On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. wow... is that true? he was kicked out of VT. About two weeks later he joined vVv and left in just over a week, I assume he was kicked due to differences with management though. now two weeks later he is in RAGE. so I don't give this very long at all. Yes. It's probably more his awful personality rather than his low skill level. Although it's likely a combination of both as to why he gets kicked out of so many teams. Yes. he yells at his students who pay for his coaching and has been called out by many players about his manners including former members of his team, notably whiplash. though he has been known for this throuhout his dota career as well. He wasn't very popular there either. if he doesn't clean up his act soon. he will have nowhere to go and will fade into obscurity Can you not talk about things that you dont know.. So get a life and stop trolling on a strong player. that you'll never be. Thanks You have 6 posts and all of them are talking up Desrow. Forum smurf account? :p
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Gratz on getting in RAGE team Desrow, you deserve a it.
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This sudden random influx of sub 10 post posters is mind-boggling
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Gratz Desrow good luck with the team and thanks RAGE-gaming for supporting desrow!
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On May 30 2011 06:34 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:32 blackone wrote:On May 30 2011 06:31 Senx wrote: Isnt Desrow the guy who beat Incontrol in a replay and has a personally sponsored stream by Thermaltake? How do you beat someone in a replay? He went to x8 faster than incontrol and beat him to the end of the replay, therefore winning. What are you a noob at competitive replay watching?
There should be a guide written on competitive replay watching. Gotta hate these noobs asking questions
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Congrats MARC-OLIVIER. Hope you do well!
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Rage and Desrow, something about that, makes me think they're going to be good together.
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Desrows stream is awesome! give him some respect people he streams alot and he helps his veiwers, answer questions, plays at the top level, coaches almost for free(considring how good his at it) Just a really nice guy in general: )
Nice signing rage! with RAGEDesRows(?) dediction he will probably do really good in a few weeks!
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Crongrats RAGEdesRow :D:D Good luck to you! See you on your stream!
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Good team picking up extremely bad players (minus ThomasG). Hope they change up their roster and perform well as they have in other games. Their CEO is a great guy and really knows what he is doing.
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On May 30 2011 07:14 1Eris1 wrote: This sudden random influx of sub 10 post posters is mind-boggling
and they are all hating on me. I feel so special :D
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On May 30 2011 07:14 1Eris1 wrote: This sudden random influx of sub 10 post posters is mind-boggling
Just proves the fact that desRow has a lot of loyal stream viewers that wish him the best of luck. And as I like to include myself in the aforementioned group:
Congratulations on your new team desRow! I am very happy to hear that you will get financial support enabling you to attend more respectable LANs. Obviously we all would like to see you do well in those . Keep up the good work bro!
Gratz to CupCake aswell, good luck in your further carreer. I hope you do well !
Much love to Rage.esports for these pick-ups and their support to the community. Giving a chance to the lesser-gods to get out there and perform. Very cool people indeed.
P.S. I find it pretty sad that the people who have personal grudges with desRow are so immature they feel the need to bad-mouth them on every topic that dares say anything positive about him. But as mentioned before by someone else: "haters gonna hate", I guess.
EDIT: retarded typo >.<
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I don't wanna be a bad guy, but ... this all whats RAGE will gonna do ? Replace the players every 2-3 months ? Or if they are leaving, what is the reason ?
Even if i played for RAGE and i was one of their 1st players back in the beta and after release, i think they need an full functionally website and not the promises that "we'll do it" and "soon will be ready". There is more than an year and the website is not ready yet. No offence, but if darky wanna make that team known he must work not only on recruiting 2-3 players every 3 months or so.
In rest ... GL boys and do u`r best ! Peace !
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On May 30 2011 07:21 [FSM]Doji wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:14 1Eris1 wrote: This sudden random influx of sub 10 post posters is mind-boggling Just proves the fact that desRow has a lot of loyal stream viewers that wish him the best of luck. And as I like to include myself in the aforementioned group: Congratulations on your new team desRow! I am very happy to hear that you will get financial support enabling you to attend more respectable LANs. Obviously we all would like to see you do well in those  . Keep up the good work bro! Gratz to CupCake aswell, good luck in your further carreer. I hope you do well ! Much love to Rage.esports for these pick-ups and their support to the community. Giving a chance to the lesser-gods to get out their and perform. Very cool people indeed. P.S. I find it pretty sad that the people who have personal grudges with desRow are so immature they feel the need to bad-mouth them on every topic that dares say anything positive about him. But as mentioned before by someone else: "haters gonna hate", I guess. Really have to agree with this being said. But as they say, you can't satisfy everyone, you can't always love everyone. So there will be always someone who's gonna hate. Just wish we'd not have to read all these spiteful comments each time a topic about specific person emerges. Because really, it's not only Desrow's case. It happends quite often, seeing haters going and badmouthing the person mentioned in the OP.
Nobody's perfect, we all have our flaws and mistakes we do. But, is it ok to nearly crucify someone for them? o.O
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Grats Des good luck in future games!
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desrow has been kicked/left every team and I don't think any team can say they were happy recruiting him, he will probably tell his whole stream to quote me and tell me to die, thats how bad his attitude is. He said he used VT as a stepping stone to get into a better clan, hes just a terrible person.
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Congratulations to both players.
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Oh man, all this fuss about Desrow is making me wanna go watch his stream. BTW congrats man. Dont listen to haters.
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dRw's team status is gonna last about 2 days.
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never heard of RAGE... they from CS or something? They good?
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On May 30 2011 06:24 KingP wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 06:17 nathangonmad wrote: Good pick up with Cupcake. But Desrow? The guy doesn't really have any results =/ Not to mention the clan hopping. VT, vVv and now RAGE in a period of under a month. He whats to go to big tournaments and by doing that he has to pick the teams that will take him there.
IMHO, before trying to go to bigger tournaments, he should at least try to get better results. He's nowhere near the skill level of most pro players. In the OP it says he top 100 in the ladder when he's actually top 200 with 208 wins and 196 lost. This is far from good results with this win ratio, compared to other top players. And yet, I didn't saw him in major events, so I hope this will change with his new team. Wish him the best of luck for the future and don't get me wrong here, I just think he's trying to climb the steps a little bit too fast. Attend MLG is one thing, but being able to get good results out of it is another.
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Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later.
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Can't really say if this is a good pick up or not in my opinion. I have not seen enough from Desrow in the lan scene, i like his stream though.
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Desrow hwaiitiing :D <3 from sweden
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Yay congrats to Desrow, always remember we were the first to grats you so include us in a shoutout :O Or i'll be upset
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Never heard of Rage before, but congrats to the new recruits either way.
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wow another team for desrow? settle down man O_O!
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Good pickup for RAGE with desRow.
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Oh thanks! Liquipedia has a different team on there @_@
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On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later.
If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me):
He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first.
A few weeks later he announced that he was joining vVv, but this ended after a few days. From what desrow said on his stream, there was a misunderstanding between him and the managers: vVv wanted him to attend MLG Columbus to show results, and desrow thought they will pay his trip. When he found out that he was expected to go on his own money, he said he couldn't afford it and had to leave the team.
A few days ago, I witnessed a match between him and a RAGE player that told him they were recruiting. I assume he talked with the managers after the game and this was the result.
So it doesn't seem that desrow left one team for a better one and I think he is a cool guy. His only fault may be that he tilts easily when people talk crap about him in public (like his former teammates or the masterbreti guy). He wants to improve faster (without having to coach a lot for a living) and to attend LAN events that he cannot afford on his own. I don't see anything wrong in searching for a team that would support him in his goals.
RAGE seems to have serious intentions, so I wish good luck to RAGE, desrow and cupcake!
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On May 30 2011 09:47 sims89 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later. If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me): He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first. A few weeks later he announced that he was joining vVv, but this ended after a few days. From what desrow said on his stream, there was a misunderstanding between him and the managers: vVv wanted him to attend MLG Columbus to show results, and desrow thought they will pay his trip. When he found out that he was expected to go on his own money, he said he couldn't afford it and had to leave the team. A few days ago, I witnessed a match between him and a RAGE player that told him they were recruiting. I assume he talked with the managers after the game and this was the result. So it doesn't seem that desrow left one team for a better one and I think he is a cool guy. His only fault may be that he tilts easily when people talk crap about him in public (like his former teammates or the masterbreti guy). He wants to improve without having to coach a lot for a living and to attend LAN events that he cannot afford on his own. I don't see anything wrong in searching for a team that would support him in his goals. RAGE seems to have serious intentions, so I wish good luck to RAGE, desrow and cupcake!
Thank you.. and holy crap there's a lot of my life you can pick up only from my stream haha XD
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On May 30 2011 09:52 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 09:47 sims89 wrote:On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later. If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me): He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first. A few weeks later he announced that he was joining vVv, but this ended after a few days. From what desrow said on his stream, there was a misunderstanding between him and the managers: vVv wanted him to attend MLG Columbus to show results, and desrow thought they will pay his trip. When he found out that he was expected to go on his own money, he said he couldn't afford it and had to leave the team. A few days ago, I witnessed a match between him and a RAGE player that told him they were recruiting. I assume he talked with the managers after the game and this was the result. So it doesn't seem that desrow left one team for a better one and I think he is a cool guy. His only fault may be that he tilts easily when people talk crap about him in public (like his former teammates or the masterbreti guy). He wants to improve without having to coach a lot for a living and to attend LAN events that he cannot afford on his own. I don't see anything wrong in searching for a team that would support him in his goals. RAGE seems to have serious intentions, so I wish good luck to RAGE, desrow and cupcake! Thank you.. and holy crap there's a lot of my life you can pick up only from my stream haha XD
Yeah, listening to you daily can have that result =) I just hope that I didn't misunderstand something or said anything that was not supposed to be public (but since you announced these things on your stream, I thought it's ok)
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On May 30 2011 09:47 sims89 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later. + Show Spoiler +If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me):
He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first.
A few weeks later he announced that he was joining vVv, but this ended after a few days. From what desrow said on his stream, there was a misunderstanding between him and the managers: vVv wanted him to attend MLG Columbus to show results, and desrow thought they will pay his trip. When he found out that he was expected to go on his own money, he said he couldn't afford it and had to leave the team.
A few days ago, I witnessed a match between him and a RAGE player that told him they were recruiting. I assume he talked with the managers after the game and this was the result.
So it doesn't seem that desrow left one team for a better one and I think he is a cool guy. His only fault may be that he tilts easily when people talk crap about him in public (like his former teammates or the masterbreti guy). He wants to improve faster (without having to coach a lot for a living) and to attend LAN events that he cannot afford on his own. I don't see anything wrong in searching for a team that would support him in his goals.
RAGE seems to have serious intentions, so I wish good luck to RAGE, desrow and cupcake!
Okay, that changes everything then.
Gl desrow, but I really hate how they call themself RAGE with only uppercase when there already is a well known organisation with the same name and uppercases too. And they have a Starcraft 2-team with EU grandmaster players too so it's not like they doesn't have something to do with SC2.
They should really change their name or at least skip the uppercase spelling.
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Awesome news best of luck to everyone!
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Seriously, what's with all these sub 50 post count accounts coming out of the blue and praising Desrow? Kind of strange, no?
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On May 30 2011 10:19 Termit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 09:47 sims89 wrote:On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later. + Show Spoiler +If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me):
He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first.
A few weeks later he announced that he was joining vVv, but this ended after a few days. From what desrow said on his stream, there was a misunderstanding between him and the managers: vVv wanted him to attend MLG Columbus to show results, and desrow thought they will pay his trip. When he found out that he was expected to go on his own money, he said he couldn't afford it and had to leave the team.
A few days ago, I witnessed a match between him and a RAGE player that told him they were recruiting. I assume he talked with the managers after the game and this was the result.
So it doesn't seem that desrow left one team for a better one and I think he is a cool guy. His only fault may be that he tilts easily when people talk crap about him in public (like his former teammates or the masterbreti guy). He wants to improve faster (without having to coach a lot for a living) and to attend LAN events that he cannot afford on his own. I don't see anything wrong in searching for a team that would support him in his goals.
RAGE seems to have serious intentions, so I wish good luck to RAGE, desrow and cupcake! Okay, that changes everything then. Gl desrow, but I really hate how they call themself RAGE with only uppercase when there already is a well known organisation with the same name and uppercases too. And they have a Starcraft 2-team with EU grandmaster players too so it's not like they doesn't have something to do with SC2. They should really change their name or at least skip the uppercase spelling.
RAGE has been around for a while -.-
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nice marc congrats!
really pumped to see ThomasG playing... he was a beast towards the end of wc3
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On May 30 2011 09:47 sims89 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later. If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me): He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first.
Auctally its the other way around.
I was once a really active desrow stream watcher before he become big and an ass (to be blunt). I was even a mod at one point in time, still am afaik (though i would have to go to the chat to use that).
anyways desrow's place in the team was in jeporady for a while. I remember the countless times he would attack one of his teammates on stream. This didn't make him popular in the VT team as most would see. He was approached a lot of times (some even while streaming) for his character, and to stop it. for some reason he contiuned to do so and the team didn't like it.
He wanted free trip to mlg and such and wanted VT to basically pay everything for him. He wasn't (and still isn't) performing at a high level and so they did not take him, nor did they auctally have the money to take him, as VT doesn't exactly have huge pockets.
So after that desrow basically went on a giant bashing spree of other players insulting whiplash more often than anyone else. He was confronted about it and kicked.
There was no annoucment, no explaination of what happend until whipalsh was doing a Q&A with people on his stream and it was asked about 2-3 days later. He said that Desrow was kicked because he backstabbed and would bash teammates behind their backs, mirhi confronted him about it, desrow lied and was promtly kicked from the team. iirc Azz (though it might have been someone else) was auctally on the stream as well and said the same thing, even providng some examples that I cannot remember at this moment.
A few days later after he left VT, he had created a thread about something, it was his one of many that he created and was banned for even (was unbanned due to paying for another thread).
people asked why he was no longer in VT. I had simply replied that he was kicked and I wouldn't get into speicfics as to why, even though I knew at the time.
I got an angry pm from him a hour or two later demanding me to edit my post. Not being exactly manner in the process. Insulting me numerous times in the process. In his attempt to keep his bm ways out of pulbic eye so to speak.
The topic was closed by chill saying it was a shameless attempt at self promotion on desrow's part.
See I wouldn't have written all this if he hadn't been rude and he didn't insult me via pm. now telling to go die in a pit is another colorful way he approaches people.
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Why desrow is featured, has viewers, a following, or anything at all is beyond me. He's incredibly bad mannered, and doesn't even perform remotely well in anything.
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super stoked to see thomasg play sc2 (wc3 fanboy here) not so stoked to see jabba join though, i feel hes week and has a bad attitude
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On May 30 2011 07:22 Cr1stY wrote: I don't wanna be a bad guy, but ... this all whats RAGE will gonna do ? Replace the players every 2-3 months ? Or if they are leaving, what is the reason ?
Even if i played for RAGE and i was one of their 1st players back in the beta and after release, i think they need an full functionally website and not the promises that "we'll do it" and "soon will be ready". There is more than an year and the website is not ready yet. No offence, but if darky wanna make that team known he must work not only on recruiting 2-3 players every 3 months or so.
In rest ... GL boys and do u`r best ! Peace !
Hey Cristi, replacing players is normal once you get to a point where they want salaries starting from 200EU which we can't always afford or the players aren't worth being payed that much.
Also, RAGE e-Sports has been around since 28.02.2000 and is know for it's CoD teams.
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On May 30 2011 09:47 sims89 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later. If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me): He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first. A few weeks later he announced that he was joining vVv, but this ended after a few days. From what desrow said on his stream, there was a misunderstanding between him and the managers: vVv wanted him to attend MLG Columbus to show results, and desrow thought they will pay his trip. When he found out that he was expected to go on his own money, he said he couldn't afford it and had to leave the team. A few days ago, I witnessed a match between him and a RAGE player that told him they were recruiting. I assume he talked with the managers after the game and this was the result. So it doesn't seem that desrow left one team for a better one and I think he is a cool guy. His only fault may be that he tilts easily when people talk crap about him in public (like his former teammates or the masterbreti guy). He wants to improve faster (without having to coach a lot for a living) and to attend LAN events that he cannot afford on his own. I don't see anything wrong in searching for a team that would support him in his goals. RAGE seems to have serious intentions, so I wish good luck to RAGE, desrow and cupcake! As someone that's disliked desRow because of the swapping but didn't know the details, thank you.
This puts things into a better perspective. Good luck to both desrow and RAGE.
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GL new team
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On May 30 2011 12:28 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 09:47 sims89 wrote:On May 30 2011 07:58 Termit wrote: Didn't desrow join a team just recently before this? Are you aiming to be the Gositerran of Quebec or what? If it's true that you just used VT to get a better team and left your new team instantly for RAGE you will soon have the same crediblity as gosi and that will probably hit you in the face later. If you are really interested in desrow's side of the story (I apologize if I am wrong, please correct me): He didn't jump from one team to the other, there were periods when he didn't know what he was going to do next. I started watching desrow a couple of months ago when he was still on VT. From what I understand, they were not helping him in any way (like monthly salary or trips to LANs), he was earning his pay by streaming on the team's channel. He was not getting along with his teammates anymore (I'm don't know the details) and he announced on his stream only that he and VT parted ways, but his former teammates started badmouthing him on other streams. That probably contributed to his bad image, but from what I've seen, he tried to be cool about it at first. Auctally its the other way around. I was once a really active desrow stream watcher before he become big and an ass (to be blunt). I was even a mod at one point in time, still am afaik (though i would have to go to the chat to use that). anyways desrow's place in the team was in jeporady for a while. I remember the countless times he would attack one of his teammates on stream. This didn't make him popular in the VT team as most would see. He was approached a lot of times (some even while streaming) for his character, and to stop it. for some reason he contiuned to do so and the team didn't like it.
I didn't see desrow attacking them on stream, and I was also watching him a lot. Maybe I just missed it... Anyway, I said everything I know, so there's no point in dragging this further.
I just hope that people who don't know anything about desrow would watch his stream for a couple of hours and make their own opinion. I enjoy him talking almost all the time, explaining his builds and making jokes (I prefer this to watching more famous players that only put music). Maybe because of this I've overlooked some of his faults, but I simply can't see him as a bad person overall, whatever people say about his past.
This is desrow's chance to prove himself to everybody, one way or the other. He now has a supportive team and the possibility to attend LANs, so there cannot be any more excuses. GL desrow!
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gratts desrow keep up the streaming! =))
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I've never heard of desrow being a valuable team member from any of his past teammates. Hopefully this will change with RAGE.
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great news!
and congratz desrow, it's good to see u back on a team again
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Well done, and well deserved by everyone!
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Desrow Figthing again! Gogo man! You're awsome! Never heard of other players though, so i'm looking forward to see what they can do! =)
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GL HF in your new Team! Keep it up!
greets, CBenni
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go desrow!! best protoss<3 gl hf!!
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Nice Pick up for RAGE. Desrow will make this team BOSS!!
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Love watching the stream you done good RAGE
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Desrow FTW! I think that RAGE sports might be really surprised at just how good Desrow is going to be at MLG can't wait! Props to RAGE
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Grats desrow! and wasn't RAGE a quake 3 CTF clan too? :D
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Best of luck to the team and to DesRow who might hopefully finally be able to put up the results he seems to me to be capable of.
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Grats dRw, forget about masterbreti that kid is prolly one of VT's ass licker, their still mad that evrything happened the way it did (because when u left, half of their team talent left at the same moment) As for Desrow's future, its bright and shining, hes gonna be amongst the best real soon, and VT will only have themselfs to blame for their unprofessionalism.. oh well, i guess u cant expect much when half of the team dont have the age to buy a beer at the drugstore. U guys need to grow hair on your ballz..
GL dRw with Rage !!!!! <3
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As an avid watcher of desrows stream for a few months now, I really hope that he can find stability with this new team. Gratz.
Desrow fighting!
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Grats Des and best of luck with RAGE!
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gratz on the new team desrow. Always like to see him stream during the day
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On May 30 2011 07:29 mewby wrote: desrow has been kicked/left every team and I don't think any team can say they were happy recruiting him, he will probably tell his whole stream to quote me and tell me to die, thats how bad his attitude is. He said he used VT as a stepping stone to get into a better clan, hes just a terrible person.
I won't talk about desrow's past, but with your second point, you say that using VT as a stepping stone made him a terrible person. Then what about Nightend and Thorzain, who left praetoriani for better teams, essentially killing it? Almost all players start out in smaller clans to get their skills out there, it's a part of esports.
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congrats to both of them, wondered wht happened to ThomasG
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Congratz Desrow !!! You deserve
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yo gratz desrow!
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can't say i like desrow, but congrats the to team on making a comeback
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Gratz to the team and Desrow, but im wondering, how does a team like this make money? Their players never really win anything apart from 25$ in craftcup lite #35353
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I heard MLG Anaheim is gonna be a blast. Lookin forward to seeing desrow and his team perform live! Desrow fighting!
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ThomasG will be a big SC2 name soon. Only a matter of time.
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On May 30 2011 22:51 ampson wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 07:29 mewby wrote: desrow has been kicked/left every team and I don't think any team can say they were happy recruiting him, he will probably tell his whole stream to quote me and tell me to die, thats how bad his attitude is. He said he used VT as a stepping stone to get into a better clan, hes just a terrible person. I won't talk about desrow's past, but with your second point, you say that using VT as a stepping stone made him a terrible person. Then what about Nightend and Thorzain, who left praetoriani for better teams, essentially killing it? Almost all players start out in smaller clans to get their skills out there, it's a part of esports. No, he used VT as a steeping stone to get into a better clan(Comma) hes just a terrible person.
He listed 2-3 different reasons on why.
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Congratz to Desrow and CupCake :D hope they show us some good games!
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People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
Desrow just bad manners people and yells at viewers trying to help him out on his stream when he's clearly a poor player (given the amount of time he spends on the game).
If Desrow played any race other than protoss he wouldn't get anywhere, his builds are so sloppy and unrefined that his arrogance is unwarranted, disgusting and, frankly, embarrasing.
Any tournament level player would absolutely destroy him, because his basic game mechanics are so offbeat.
No team should want someone like that representing them, which appears to be the case, seeing as he's switching teams every other day.
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On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
Desrow just bad manners people and yells at viewers trying to help him out on his stream when he's clearly a poor player (given the amount of time he spends on the game).
If Desrow played any race other than protoss he wouldn't get anywhere, his builds are so sloppy and unrefined that his arrogance is unwarranted, disgusting and, frankly, embarrasing.
Any tournament level player would absolutely destroy him, because his basic game mechanics are so offbeat.
No team should want someone like that representing them, which appears to be the case, seeing as he's switching teams every other day.
Wow, you actually come here and writing a book about a person trying to push him down on internet, you don't even now him.
Man, get a hobby other than sitting infront of the computer hating.
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On May 30 2011 23:58 BloudMann wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
Desrow just bad manners people and yells at viewers trying to help him out on his stream when he's clearly a poor player (given the amount of time he spends on the game).
If Desrow played any race other than protoss he wouldn't get anywhere, his builds are so sloppy and unrefined that his arrogance is unwarranted, disgusting and, frankly, embarrasing.
Any tournament level player would absolutely destroy him, because his basic game mechanics are so offbeat.
No team should want someone like that representing them, which appears to be the case, seeing as he's switching teams every other day. Wow, you actually come here and writing a book about a person trying to push him down on internet, you don't even now him. Man, get a hobby other than sitting infront of the computer hating.
I'm "writing a book" because if we, as in the Starcraft community, want eSports to be big, sponsorship is one of the biggest factors in making it a success.
If we want eSports to be big, we need the people that are seen as being "top players" to be great role models, and for the most part, they are.
Current sports superstars that garner bad press are almost instantly stripped of their sponsorships, and are often suspended.
If we want eSports to be big, people like Desrow simply can't last. A foul demeanour is not something anyone wants to see.
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On May 31 2011 00:04 orn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 23:58 BloudMann wrote:On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
Desrow just bad manners people and yells at viewers trying to help him out on his stream when he's clearly a poor player (given the amount of time he spends on the game).
If Desrow played any race other than protoss he wouldn't get anywhere, his builds are so sloppy and unrefined that his arrogance is unwarranted, disgusting and, frankly, embarrasing.
Any tournament level player would absolutely destroy him, because his basic game mechanics are so offbeat.
No team should want someone like that representing them, which appears to be the case, seeing as he's switching teams every other day. Wow, you actually come here and writing a book about a person trying to push him down on internet, you don't even now him. Man, get a hobby other than sitting infront of the computer hating. I'm "writing a book" because if we, as in the Starcraft community, want eSports to be big, sponsorship is one of the biggest factors in making it a success. If we want eSports to be big, we need the people that are seen as being "top players" to be great role models, and for the most part, they are. Current sports superstars that garner bad press are almost instantly stripped of their sponsorships, and are often suspended. If we want eSports to be big, people like Desrow simply can't last. A foul demeanour is not something anyone wants to see.
And no, sports superstars can be divas and egoists and say stupid thing and still have their sponsors. Just look at fooball/soccer.
What you are doing is that you just hate desRow and you do not think about the "best" for e-sport.
And you say he's a foul demeanour. Who the hell cares? It creates tensions and makes a sport much funnier to watch.
Im not saying that you should love desRow, but don't come here try to destroy his career by saying he's not worth is and so on.
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Well deserved by desrow and RAGE...
read it like you want ...
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On May 31 2011 00:16 BloudMann wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 00:04 orn wrote:On May 30 2011 23:58 BloudMann wrote:On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
Desrow just bad manners people and yells at viewers trying to help him out on his stream when he's clearly a poor player (given the amount of time he spends on the game).
If Desrow played any race other than protoss he wouldn't get anywhere, his builds are so sloppy and unrefined that his arrogance is unwarranted, disgusting and, frankly, embarrasing.
Any tournament level player would absolutely destroy him, because his basic game mechanics are so offbeat.
No team should want someone like that representing them, which appears to be the case, seeing as he's switching teams every other day. Wow, you actually come here and writing a book about a person trying to push him down on internet, you don't even now him. Man, get a hobby other than sitting infront of the computer hating. I'm "writing a book" because if we, as in the Starcraft community, want eSports to be big, sponsorship is one of the biggest factors in making it a success. If we want eSports to be big, we need the people that are seen as being "top players" to be great role models, and for the most part, they are. Current sports superstars that garner bad press are almost instantly stripped of their sponsorships, and are often suspended. If we want eSports to be big, people like Desrow simply can't last. A foul demeanour is not something anyone wants to see. And no, sports superstars can be divas and egoists and say stupid thing and still have their sponsors. Just look at fooball/soccer. What you are doing is that you just hate desRow and you do not think about the "best" for e-sport.
Sports stars in my country get instantly fired, fined, or at least suspended if they do so much as badmouth someone at a bar. There are consequences for their actions, because they are role models.
I don't know of a single sports superstar that wasn't almost instantly shamed for bad behaviour, a prime example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Woods
He is no longer respected or seen as a role model because of his behaviour off the green.
There is a difference between bad behaviour, and a healthy ego.
Many basketball players are famous for having huge egos. Idra is another good example of this, he may be arrogant, but he has earned the right to be so. He is respected by thousands of people.
There is a difference between an ego and unwarranted arrogance/bad behaviour.
desrowfighting: u better be there
» dont dodge to fight those gooks
Need I say more?
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On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
I'm stopping right here to respond to this because the rest of your post is probably as retarded as this statement.
Desrow is no where on the level of douchebaggery and bad attitude as idrA. idrA calls every player trash that he loses to whines about imbalance and personally attacks well know players for no reason other then because he lost. If your going to make as such as a retarded claim as this then idrA shouldn't get sponsorship then.
I welcome the legion of butthurt idrA fans that are going to go off on me know.
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There's no such thing as bad publicity, thanks for the hype
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On May 31 2011 00:44 nGBeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
I'm stopping right here to respond to this because the rest of your post is probably as retarded as this statement. Desrow is no where on the level of douchebaggery and bad attitude as idrA. idrA calls every player trash that he loses to whines about imbalance and personally attacks well know players for no reason other then because he lost. If your going to make as such as a retarded claim as this then idrA shouldn't get sponsorship then. I welcome the legion of butthurt idrA fans that are going to go off on me know.
I'm not going to lie and say I don't like IdrA, I do.
His attitude does need work, however, and many people have been telling him that (iNcontroL pretty much every single time on SOTG, etc), and he HAS been punished for doing so. I would also bet that words have been exchanged between him and EG about his behaviour.
BUT, his community contributions have been outstanding, he's brought media attention to eSports and Starcraft, whilst hosting and contributing to tournaments, community discussions, and so on.
The two aren't comparable, again:
desrowfighting: u better be there
» dont dodge to fight those gooks
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On May 31 2011 00:50 Broesly wrote:There's no such thing as bad publicity, thanks for the hype 
Yes, there actually is. When I see someone like Desrow representing your sponsors, I will go out of my way to ignore them, and make sure I never use or buy any of their products.
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On May 31 2011 00:26 orn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 00:16 BloudMann wrote:On May 31 2011 00:04 orn wrote:On May 30 2011 23:58 BloudMann wrote:On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
Desrow just bad manners people and yells at viewers trying to help him out on his stream when he's clearly a poor player (given the amount of time he spends on the game).
If Desrow played any race other than protoss he wouldn't get anywhere, his builds are so sloppy and unrefined that his arrogance is unwarranted, disgusting and, frankly, embarrasing.
Any tournament level player would absolutely destroy him, because his basic game mechanics are so offbeat.
No team should want someone like that representing them, which appears to be the case, seeing as he's switching teams every other day. Wow, you actually come here and writing a book about a person trying to push him down on internet, you don't even now him. Man, get a hobby other than sitting infront of the computer hating. I'm "writing a book" because if we, as in the Starcraft community, want eSports to be big, sponsorship is one of the biggest factors in making it a success. If we want eSports to be big, we need the people that are seen as being "top players" to be great role models, and for the most part, they are. Current sports superstars that garner bad press are almost instantly stripped of their sponsorships, and are often suspended. If we want eSports to be big, people like Desrow simply can't last. A foul demeanour is not something anyone wants to see. And no, sports superstars can be divas and egoists and say stupid thing and still have their sponsors. Just look at fooball/soccer. What you are doing is that you just hate desRow and you do not think about the "best" for e-sport. Sports stars in my country get instantly fired, fined, or at least suspended if they do so much as badmouth someone at a bar. There are consequences for their actions, because they are role models. I don't know of a single sports superstar that wasn't almost instantly shamed for bad behaviour, a prime example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_WoodsHe is no longer respected or seen as a role model because of his behaviour off the green. There is a difference between bad behaviour, and a healthy ego. Many basketball players are famous for having huge egos. Idra is another good example of this, he may be arrogant, but he has earned the right to be so. He is respected by thousands of people. There is a difference between an ego and unwarranted arrogance/bad behaviour. Need I say more?
Thank you for comparing me to tiger woods, god I wish I had a wife ! Have a nice day !
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I'm not a fan of him either. He has times where he is a complete A hole, but he has others where he is fairly nice. Especially with his students. He freaks out. I mean, come on - these students aren't looking to get serious, so take it easy on them..
But other then that, no problem.
Congratz!
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orn is completely right in all his posts, expressed my exact feelings in words that are perfect.
Desrow is greedy as hell, he left vVv because he expected them to pay for his entire MLG experience when he'll just get knocked out in the first round. Now he's found a team who are in need of publicity and for some unknown reason have agreed to add desrow to their roster (and pay him, WTF?).
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Congrats to RAGE and desrow. The people talking shit need to relax, everybody just tries to make mountains out of molehills. You aren't protecting the integrity or saving eSports by trashing a random pro player for using an insensitive term in a harmless context, chill the fuck out.
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[B]On May 31 2011 01:42 fadestep wrote: The people talking shit ...by trashing a random pro player... chill the fuck out.
chill dude...^^
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On May 31 2011 01:42 Beefwipe wrote: orn is completely right in all his posts, expressed my exact feelings in words that are perfect.
Desrow is greedy as hell, he left vVv because he expected them to pay for his entire MLG experience when he'll just get knocked out in the first round. Now he's found a team who are in need of publicity and for some unknown reason have agreed to add desrow to their roster (and pay him, WTF?).
Agreed.
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On May 31 2011 01:42 Beefwipe wrote: orn is completely right in all his posts, expressed my exact feelings in words that are perfect.
Desrow is greedy as hell, he left vVv because he expected them to pay for his entire MLG experience when he'll just get knocked out in the first round. Now he's found a team who are in need of publicity and for some unknown reason have agreed to add desrow to their roster (and pay him, WTF?).
I asked to be removed from vvv because they wanted to see results of me at MLG columbus there was a misunderstanding from both parties on whether or not my hotel would be covered, it wasnt. I didn't feel like paying around 800$ (500 with hotel paid by vVv) and also not having to hang with a team at MLG. I'm not a greedy person but I'm also not rich, 800$ to attend an event is quite a lot of money for me.
PS: It sucked to have to leave vVv, all their players were awesome and fun to hang out with, misunderstandings happen and it is what it is. just trying to clear the air with all those haters trying to trash my name and saying what happened between me and organisations when they're not even involve with those organisations.
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This shit is obviously misunderstood and made bigger than it really is. - That most people tend to think that Desrow is a prick and so on? Oh come on man, seriously? - I've seen his stream for quite a while now, and a couple of students. It is rarely him yelling, and the best way to learn is by getting it drilled into your bloody brain so hard, that you'll never forget it - true story.
And by the way - what the fuck does Tiger Woods have to do with Desrow anyway? - "A day of travelling will bring a basketful of learning". And who the fuck says you have to be in the same community the rest of your gaming career? Now chill the fuck out trolls and give the man a break.
Either way Congrats Desrow!
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Sure Desrow can say some bm stuff at times. But I feel most of it is said in jest and not to be taken seriously. And it's not like he's a spokesperson for the free world anyway so who cares.
Anyway. Grats Desrow, hope you enjoy your new team!
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Really, there is too much drama in this thread. It amazes me how much some people here care about person they claim they don't like. Don't judge others so harshly. Nobody's perfect. Live and let live, you know. If you would actually watch Desrow's stream you would know how nice guy he is. I watch him almost everyday I have learned a lot from him, and I don't recall that he hardcore BM someone, also he never said bad word about hist past teams VT or VVV.
I wish good luck to Desrow, Cupcake and Rage team. Time for serious training came for you, do your best. Desrow FIGHTING! 
edited: sure, sure, I am poster for hire, I can write good things about you too only 5$ / post. All races except terran are accepted. LOL, some people.
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this guys name is Tuna ? no joke ?
Anyway awesome pick up Cyclone is actually my favourtie zerg player =D
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The only ones that can judge the leaves and joins in a team, organization, or whatsoever, are those who took part in it. people on forums thrashing ppl they dont know about for leaving teams they've never been in just doesnt make sense.
btw, congratz desrow and RAGE, i'm used to watching his stream, which i find to be one of the best SC2 Protoss streams, keep the good work! :D
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I have no problem with Desrow as he seems like a good guy and wish him the best!
It is true though that whenever there is a thread about him, a lot of people with 1-15 posts seem to write in them nice stuff about him. It's just kinda weird( I noticed weeks ago) but could just be his stream students I guess.
GL rage!
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meh the guys just kind of an ass to a lot of people (including myself) and thats why the people in the thread have negative things to say about him.
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Gratz on the new team desrow! Good luck at MLG Anaheim, love watching your stream.
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ThomasG, nice one. Was the best European WC3 player till SC2 came out.
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grats desrow, nice stream
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good to see desrow get a new team after hearing VT kids rip him off 24/7 on their streams...
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It makes me laugh so hard when sooo much people are judging him in a good way just because they watch his stream... I mean comon guys how can you judge someone by listening to his stream? It's pretty obvious he won't be BM because all he want is the money out of it. Get more viewers, new students to get more money. It's pretty irrelevant to judge someone by his stream. Some people might find it awesome that he's giving out tips while playing and streaming his coaching sessions but i mean, why would you want to learn from someone who, IMO, is not playing like a pro gamer? And some even pay for it! Compared to most pro gamers, he is really a bad player. Whoever says he's playing like a pro gamer will be surprised if he actually go to MLG and get knock out in the 1st round by some real pro gamer. He's just asking too much compared to his real value. And IMO, any team that will sponsor him might regret to waste money on him after seeing his bad results, if he actually get paid or being sent to big events like MLG. Anyway only time will tell.
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To all supporters, haters, and everything in between of desRow,
I come here to kind of clear the air about all the drama surrounding him as I've kind of been in a neutral position throughout my entire relationship with him. When he was on VT I defended him as much as was reasonable and have continued to support him and wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors. I'm just trying to provide a relatively unbiased story from a semi-insider.
desRow joined VT before I joined (which was at the end of November 2010). I don't know how long he'd been there, but it wasn't more than a month or two. He was never one of the better players on VT, but he was certainly good enough to practice with. At first he was more... humble and less outgoing, so he was not quite as irritating as he grew to be. However, over time, he just grew to be more and more annoying by arguing with everyone and pissing people off (most notably Arlock and Whiplash). Whiplash and desRow muted eachother on ventrilo more times than I care to count. Throughout this time I defended desRow - I believed him to have good intentions and I sincerely believed he was just trying to stand up for himself. Fast forward to around jan-feb 2011. desRow begins streaming a lot on the VTGaming channel with promise of revenue earned from it. (He was paid 100$ after he was kicked from the team when we finally got the money from justin.tv). He began to get a bit of a following, but he was still a bit below par skill-wise for a VT member - my sc2gears has me as a 37-5 record vs desRow since November. The problem was that he began to get a bit of an ego, often overhyping his successes and failing to realize that many of us had equal or greater achievements. Oftentimes desRow and Whiplash would publicly insult each other while streaming. This worsened as he began streaming on his own channel more and promoting his "brand". At some point along here he served a one week suspension from Ventrilo and VT Gaming related activities. Around MLG Dallas, Grant, the VP of VTG, offered desRow a bus ticket to Columbus as a reward for his streaming activity. He was a bit unaware of desRow's attitude issues, and the president of VT (Frank/Mirhi) was a bit unhappy with this. Over the course of the next two or three weeks, desRow quickly spiraled downwards in our minds, often insulting teammates and neglecting to practice with us until we had no choice but to kick him. I supported him up til around the time of the bus ticket incident.
After he was kicked, he eventually talked to me and explained the whole bus ticket incident (which I previously had little knowledge of). He said he knew Frank didn't like him and knew he would be kicked eventually and so he was just trying to promote himself as much as possible. I don't remember the reason he gave for not just leaving himself right away, but he did say he planned to do so soon. Pretty much the whole team hated him at this point, but I understood what happened and wished him luck in the future.
So then desRow joins vVv. From my understanding they said they would give him some sort of sponsorship benefits, but they must have been ambiguous or something - it was clear that it ended up being a misunderstanding. He said he left the team due to the fact that they would not even be willing to provide him with hotel accommodations for Columbus. I've heard rumors that vVv management had other issues with him, but it seemed he had good relationships with the players there.
Now we're at the present.
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
And so ends the saga of desRow's life in the StarCraft 2 world. I suppose both VT and desRow will not like me posting this too much. I leave myself free to be corrected by anyone who has more knowledge than me, though I will take any biased seeming opinions with a grain of salt. Fans and enemies of desRow, have a good day. Congrats if you made it through the entire post.
- Nick
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On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote:+ Show Spoiler + To all supporters, haters, and everything in between of desRow,
I come here to kind of clear the air about all the drama surrounding him as I've kind of been in a neutral position throughout my entire relationship with him. When he was on VT I defended him as much as was reasonable and have continued to support him and wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors. I'm just trying to provide a relatively unbiased story from a semi-insider.
desRow joined VT before I joined (which was at the end of November 2010). I don't know how long he'd been there, but it wasn't more than a month or two. He was never one of the better players on VT, but he was certainly good enough to practice with. At first he was more... humble and less outgoing, so he was not quite as irritating as he grew to be. However, over time, he just grew to be more and more annoying by arguing with everyone and pissing people off (most notably Arlock and Whiplash). Whiplash and desRow muted eachother on ventrilo more times than I care to count. Throughout this time I defended desRow - I believed him to have good intentions and I sincerely believed he was just trying to stand up for himself. Fast forward to around jan-feb 2011. desRow begins streaming a lot on the VTGaming channel with promise of revenue earned from it. (He was paid 100$ after he was kicked from the team when we finally got the money from justin.tv). He began to get a bit of a following, but he was still a bit below par skill-wise for a VT member - my sc2gears has me as a 37-5 record vs desRow since November. The problem was that he began to get a bit of an ego, often overhyping his successes and failing to realize that many of us had equal or greater achievements. Oftentimes desRow and Whiplash would publicly insult each other while streaming. This worsened as he began streaming on his own channel more and promoting his "brand". At some point along here he served a one week suspension from Ventrilo and VT Gaming related activities. Around MLG Dallas, Grant, the VP of VTG, offered desRow a bus ticket to Columbus as a reward for his streaming activity. He was a bit unaware of desRow's attitude issues, and the president of VT (Frank/Mirhi) was a bit unhappy with this. Over the course of the next two or three weeks, desRow quickly spiraled downwards in our minds, often insulting teammates and neglecting to practice with us until we had no choice but to kick him. I supported him up til around the time of the bus ticket incident.
After he was kicked, he eventually talked to me and explained the whole bus ticket incident (which I previously had little knowledge of). He said he knew Frank didn't like him and knew he would be kicked eventually and so he was just trying to promote himself as much as possible. I don't remember the reason he gave for not just leaving himself right away, but he did say he planned to do so soon. Pretty much the whole team hated him at this point, but I understood what happened and wished him luck in the future.
So then desRow joins vVv. From my understanding they said they would give him some sort of sponsorship benefits, but they must have been ambiguous or something - it was clear that it ended up being a misunderstanding. He said he left the team due to the fact that they would not even be willing to provide him with hotel accommodations for Columbus. I've heard rumors that vVv management had other issues with him, but it seemed he had good relationships with the players there.
Now we're at the present.
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
And so ends the saga of desRow's life in the StarCraft 2 world. I suppose both VT and desRow will not like me posting this too much. I leave myself free to be corrected by anyone who has more knowledge than me, though I will take any biased seeming opinions with a grain of salt. Fans and enemies of desRow, have a good day. Congrats if you made it through the entire post.
- Nick
thanks a bunch for this insightful post. i have a feeling a few parties might not be too happy with you posting this but it finally clears up all those recent VT/vVv/desrow obscurities. i certainly appreciate that.
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I can vouch for Pokebunny's post, although I didn't know about the ticket situation.
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On May 31 2011 10:28 Whiplash wrote: I can vouch for Pokebunny's post, although I didn't know about the ticket situation.
Just out of curiosity, If you don't mind, can you tell us what exactly was the cause of initial dispute between you and desrow?
I have admittedly never seen his stream and it's rather difficult to tell what kind of personality he has because there are two factions of people describing him almost as he's actually two different people.
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team-rage.org are currently going through a transition of renaming to RG eSports to null any confusion in the future
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On May 31 2011 01:40 desrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 00:26 orn wrote:On May 31 2011 00:16 BloudMann wrote:On May 31 2011 00:04 orn wrote:On May 30 2011 23:58 BloudMann wrote:On May 30 2011 23:50 orn wrote: People like Desrow don't deserve sponsorship. His attitude is disgusting.
Desrow just bad manners people and yells at viewers trying to help him out on his stream when he's clearly a poor player (given the amount of time he spends on the game).
If Desrow played any race other than protoss he wouldn't get anywhere, his builds are so sloppy and unrefined that his arrogance is unwarranted, disgusting and, frankly, embarrasing.
Any tournament level player would absolutely destroy him, because his basic game mechanics are so offbeat.
No team should want someone like that representing them, which appears to be the case, seeing as he's switching teams every other day. Wow, you actually come here and writing a book about a person trying to push him down on internet, you don't even now him. Man, get a hobby other than sitting infront of the computer hating. I'm "writing a book" because if we, as in the Starcraft community, want eSports to be big, sponsorship is one of the biggest factors in making it a success. If we want eSports to be big, we need the people that are seen as being "top players" to be great role models, and for the most part, they are. Current sports superstars that garner bad press are almost instantly stripped of their sponsorships, and are often suspended. If we want eSports to be big, people like Desrow simply can't last. A foul demeanour is not something anyone wants to see. And no, sports superstars can be divas and egoists and say stupid thing and still have their sponsors. Just look at fooball/soccer. What you are doing is that you just hate desRow and you do not think about the "best" for e-sport. Sports stars in my country get instantly fired, fined, or at least suspended if they do so much as badmouth someone at a bar. There are consequences for their actions, because they are role models. I don't know of a single sports superstar that wasn't almost instantly shamed for bad behaviour, a prime example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_WoodsHe is no longer respected or seen as a role model because of his behaviour off the green. There is a difference between bad behaviour, and a healthy ego. Many basketball players are famous for having huge egos. Idra is another good example of this, he may be arrogant, but he has earned the right to be so. He is respected by thousands of people. There is a difference between an ego and unwarranted arrogance/bad behaviour. desrowfighting: u better be there
» dont dodge to fight those gooks Need I say more? Thank you for comparing me to tiger woods, god I wish I had a wife ! Have a nice day !
Clearly everything I said went straight over your head. I mean, I understand that social interaction isn't your strong point, but c'mon, you can do better than that.
desrowfighting: u better be there
» dont dodge to fight those gooks
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Im wondering why desRow calls himself an "e-sports badass" can anyone clarify?
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On May 31 2011 14:22 zlid wrote: Im wondering why desRow calls himself an "e-sports badass" can anyone clarify?
it's clearly the shades
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2221.jpg)
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Pokebunny's post is pretty much spot on.
A few discrepancies, but about 95% accurate.
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Thanks Poke, I do think that all puts Des in the wrong, but not as far wrong as could be.
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the problem with "signing" desrow and sending him to a LAN is that you'll have to buy 2 seats on the plane for him 
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Calling desrow semi pro in wc3 is really saddening :/ he was no where near that level
grats tho desrow nice to see you around you seem to be doing well =) good luck at mlg if you're going!
also cool to see mirhi around in sc2, always like seeing dota players here.
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On May 31 2011 10:47 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:28 Whiplash wrote: I can vouch for Pokebunny's post, although I didn't know about the ticket situation. Just out of curiosity, If you don't mind, can you tell us what exactly was the cause of initial dispute between you and desrow? I have admittedly never seen his stream and it's rather difficult to tell what kind of personality he has because there are two factions of people describing him almost as he's actually two different people.
I've been watching his stream a bit from a neutral perspective. While I find his lack of self-conscience and unwarranted cockiness quite annoying I do find him rather entertaining in the same way I find Idra and the likes entertaining. I guess it's the feeling of not knowing what to expect that draws me in these guys' directions because many other streamers are just 'normal, polite, music-playing people' and you always know what you get if you watch their streams.
With desrow you get a little bit of column A and a little of column B. Column A is his well-mannered personality. This is when he's not getting offended in ANY way because if he is he goes into a rampage of foulmouthing. This applies in the chat channel belonging to his channel aswell and he has like a dozen of mods at all times because of his phobia against being flamed. Insinuating in some way that he lacks skill in some way will grant you a ban. But in the case he's 'unharmed' in this manner he seems like a decent, often humorous guy although he tends to flame the opponents he beats (on stream, not ingame) for no apparent reason other than I'd guess self-indulgence. I'm not sure if it's just an act in an attempt to creating his own 'image' in the SC2 community but seeing as he's into the marketing and promotion stuff it's not too far off i'd guess.
Personally I have nothing against him but he's the kind of person that is easy to both like and dislike. He makes himself a victim by being so offendable to all kinds of insults to his persona which is kind of unfortunate because this draws trolls and flamers to him like flies to a pile of manure.
With that said I hope he steps up his game from the quite standard, lackluster protoss play he has at the moment to becoming competitive.
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edit: for the lovely desrow:
dood you are awesome. pretty chilled guy. congratz for this. wish you the best. really enjoyed the starstriker matches with you and the rest of the guys :D ( not to mention any names) glgl
awwwww maaaan
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Lol,whatup with all the single digit posters praising Desrow. Fan club invasion? Anyway,gl to des,I've watched you in dota,cool guy.
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On May 31 2011 02:40 MassHysteria wrote: It is true though that whenever there is a thread about him, a lot of people with 1-15 posts seem to write in them nice stuff about him. It's just kinda weird( I noticed weeks ago) but could just be his stream students I guess.
It's because he puts links to the threads in his stream chat, and tells people to go comment. He has a lot of fans that will click the links and post.
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On May 31 2011 10:47 Sein wrote: I have admittedly never seen his stream and it's rather difficult to tell what kind of personality he has because there are two factions of people describing him almost as he's actually two different people.
He kind of is. When he's calm, he's a very nice guy, but he sure has a temper. If he loses, he sometimes makes comments on the stream about the guy who beat him (nothing horrible or personal, generic raging usually). He also has no tolerance at all for anyone in chat commenting on his play or coaching methods, even when its just a polite suggestion or constructive criticism. Ego, I guess.
But, angry or not, he does have a very high quality entertaining stream. He makes sure there's almost always content on the screen, so if he's eating or taking a short break, he puts a replay on, sometimes with commentary. He also streams a lot of coaching, and whether or not you agree with his aggressive coaching style, any lower level player can learn a lot from it. Even when he's just playing, he still talks pretty often. He does question and answer sessions frequently, and he also just streams so often and for so many hours, that attracts viewers too. I think the points in this paragraph is the main reason he's as popular as he is.
Anyways, congrats on the new team Desrow, and good luck in Anaheim.
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This is great, DesRow streams more than probably any other player I've seen.
gl ^^
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Oh my god it's ThomasG. One of the punching bags of EU team at StarsWar Shanghai (the other one was ThorZain). His game vs Lyn was one of the best roflstomps ever. I want to see them duking out a TvT in Sc2.
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I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon?
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Congrats Desrow - keep up the good work!
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Congratulations! love your stream desrow, pure honesty :D
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On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon?
Interested in what all this about 
Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders.
glhf, do well @ MLG
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Desrow ur an awesome person , the past days i have seen you`r stream`s and to be honest. You`re a total baller. You`re a very honest person and never seem to be realy angry or hate somewhon. On top of that your very funny aswel.
Congratz to your new contract.
Sorry for my English if its not perfect its not my first language.
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On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon?
The plot thickens!
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On June 01 2011 00:50 my0s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon? Interested in what all this about  Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders. glhf, do well @ MLG
It is that they said they would give me LAN support when I played for them to insomnia40 LAN, in August 2010. I paid my own way and since then trying to get the money has been hard.
They have sent me
23 Nov 2010 - 10 euros 30 Nov 2010 - 15 euros 5 Mar 2011 - 10 euros 13 May 2011 - 10 euros
Out of the total of 90 euros they owed me, they say they will pay. I've just been watching DesRow's stream and apparently he is getting a salary aswell as LAN sponsorship, so I'm wondering what's taking RAGE so long...
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On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick
Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me....
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On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you.
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On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me....
Well in that case I'm super jealous for poke. Someone who is super manner, on top of being wayyyy better than desrow not getting as many benefits as desrow? stupid imo.
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gratz to both of you, really looking forward to follow desrow to the tournaments and such
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On June 01 2011 00:58 rANDY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 00:50 my0s wrote:On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon? Interested in what all this about  Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders. glhf, do well @ MLG It is that they said they would give me LAN support when I played for them to insomnia40 LAN, in August 2010. I paid my own way and since then trying to get the money has been hard. They have sent me 23 Nov 2010 - 10 euros 30 Nov 2010 - 15 euros 5 Mar 2011 - 10 euros 13 May 2011 - 10 euros Out of the total of 90 euros they owed me, they say they will pay. I've just been watching DesRow's stream and apparently he is getting a salary aswell as LAN sponsorship, so I'm wondering what's taking RAGE so long...
Let me just make it clear, that what you're doing is very unprofessional. You say RAGE owes you money ? Take it up with me, although I haven't been part of RAGE when you were, currently I handle everything that;s related to Starcraft 2. Throwing shit at the organization in a thread will get you nowhere, and if you`d really want to get payed, i`m pretty sure IM`ing me would have gotten you more further than this. I guess attention is worth much more to you.
I`m very disapponted at how even former team members of desRow badmouth and disclose events that were clearly happening while the players were under contract with their teams. Attention is worth more to some than professionalism.
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On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon?
Brilliant. There are too many financial failures in these "professional" teams.
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On May 31 2011 14:22 zlid wrote: Im wondering why desRow calls himself an "e-sports badass" can anyone clarify?
i'm also wondering why desrow refers to himself has 'esports badass'
maybe its a miss type?
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On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you.
What the hell is your problem? I know, its your god damn immaturity, im the same age as you and i would never, ever say that i feel insulted that somebody else was getting sponsrs and expanding the esports community, you are really putting a bad name on younger players trying to get to professional level. You need to wake up and realise that, no matter how much of a dick you are, you are an example and "role model" to some younger players. Now grow some balls and stop whining.
Oh, and BTW desrow, congratulations on your new team!
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go desrow most entertaining stream on this site
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On June 01 2011 02:52 RaKooNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you. What the hell is your problem? I know, its your god damn immaturity, im the same age as you and i would never, ever say that i feel insulted that somebody else was getting sponsrs and expanding the esports community, you are really putting a bad name on younger players trying to get to professional level. You need to wake up and realise that, no matter how much of a dick you are, you are an example and "role model" to some younger players. Now grow some balls and stop whining. Oh, and BTW desrow, congratulations on your new team!
11 posts and you're insulting an established member of the community? This thread is starting to get absolutely ridiculous. Either desrow needs to tell his fans to shut the fuck up or this needs to be locked
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Good for you desrow Good luck from a former student
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On June 01 2011 02:52 RaKooNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you. What the hell is your problem? I know, its your god damn immaturity, im the same age as you and i would never, ever say that i feel insulted that somebody else was getting sponsrs and expanding the esports community, you are really putting a bad name on younger players trying to get to professional level. You need to wake up and realise that, no matter how much of a dick you are, you are an example and "role model" to some younger players. Now grow some balls and stop whining. Oh, and BTW desrow, congratulations on your new team!
Really, lol.
Poke has every single right to feel pissed off about that. Desrow is not anywhere near as good as poke, yet he is only recieveing sponsors. that would piss anyone off. Hell it pisses off many players even ones better than poke here.
there are teams and player far more deserving of that sponsorship money. I see players that work their butts off and get nowhere because of players like desrow who get the money for only streaming.
Just think of the better places that money could go. thats poke's problem here. And I feel for him. He really derserves sponsorships yet gets little.
Its like giving sponsorship to a Bronze player and not a master's player. Which one had more pontential, the masters. yet the bronze one is a jerk and people only watch him to see him play poorly. doesn't make sense.
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On June 01 2011 02:52 RaKooNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you. What the hell is your problem? I know, its your god damn immaturity, im the same age as you and i would never, ever say that i feel insulted that somebody else was getting sponsrs and expanding the esports community, you are really putting a bad name on younger players trying to get to professional level. You need to wake up and realise that, no matter how much of a dick you are, you are an example and "role model" to some younger players. Now grow some balls and stop whining. Oh, and BTW desrow, congratulations on your new team!
At least Pokebunny doesn't come across as a raging moron.
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On June 01 2011 02:14 Broesly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 00:58 rANDY wrote:On June 01 2011 00:50 my0s wrote:On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon? Interested in what all this about  Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders. glhf, do well @ MLG It is that they said they would give me LAN support when I played for them to insomnia40 LAN, in August 2010. I paid my own way and since then trying to get the money has been hard. They have sent me 23 Nov 2010 - 10 euros 30 Nov 2010 - 15 euros 5 Mar 2011 - 10 euros 13 May 2011 - 10 euros Out of the total of 90 euros they owed me, they say they will pay. I've just been watching DesRow's stream and apparently he is getting a salary aswell as LAN sponsorship, so I'm wondering what's taking RAGE so long... Let me just make it clear, that what you're doing is very unprofessional. You say RAGE owes you money ? Take it up with me, although I haven't been part of RAGE when you were, currently I handle everything that;s related to Starcraft 2. Throwing shit at the organization in a thread will get you nowhere, and if you`d really want to get payed, i`m pretty sure IM`ing me would have gotten you more further than this. I guess attention is worth much more to you. I`m very disapponted at how even former team members of desRow badmouth and disclose events that were clearly happening while the players were under contract with their teams. Attention is worth more to some than professionalism.
I've been pm-ing Dmitriy for 9 months. He hasn't referred me to anyone else, only giving promises of "I'll have the money in 2 weeks, I didn't receive the money I was promised". What am I meant to do? 9 MONTHS I've sat on this egg. Should I have waited years?
If you are the person I should be talking to it is not my fault he hasn't informed me that the "person to talk to" has changed.
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LOL desrow gettin sponsored. All this guy achieved in sc2 was to take 10 pounds.
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yeah no point in arguing and flaming pokebunny anymore he is an established player (lol). clearly he is jealous of desrows recent success and rather than congratulate his former teammate he chose to come to his announcement thread and call him bad and say other people deserved it more but he is established right?
so, pokebunny, go ahead and cry some more and this time we wont say a word....this wont happen when you can drive man things will be different in high school....this wont happen
grats des, well played....stupid donkeys just dont know what hit em
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I think desrow fanboys are aiming to reach the same level as IdrA's fanboy when it comes to making a fool of themselves on the forums, lol!
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On June 01 2011 02:14 Broesly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 00:58 rANDY wrote:On June 01 2011 00:50 my0s wrote:On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon? Interested in what all this about  Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders. glhf, do well @ MLG It is that they said they would give me LAN support when I played for them to insomnia40 LAN, in August 2010. I paid my own way and since then trying to get the money has been hard. They have sent me 23 Nov 2010 - 10 euros 30 Nov 2010 - 15 euros 5 Mar 2011 - 10 euros 13 May 2011 - 10 euros Out of the total of 90 euros they owed me, they say they will pay. I've just been watching DesRow's stream and apparently he is getting a salary aswell as LAN sponsorship, so I'm wondering what's taking RAGE so long... Let me just make it clear, that what you're doing is very unprofessional. You say RAGE owes you money ? Take it up with me, although I haven't been part of RAGE when you were, currently I handle everything that;s related to Starcraft 2. Throwing shit at the organization in a thread will get you nowhere, and if you`d really want to get payed, i`m pretty sure IM`ing me would have gotten you more further than this. I guess attention is worth much more to you. I`m very disapponted at how even former team members of desRow badmouth and disclose events that were clearly happening while the players were under contract with their teams. Attention is worth more to some than professionalism.
I won't call rANDY unprofessional basically me as his former manager in RAGE also contacted Dmitriy from time to time. And what he is stating is true, Dmitriy 1st promised rANDY to pay the whole amount of his balance in 2 weeks ( that was 9 months ago ). And no need to PM you since both of us have the Dmitriy's contact ( FB, Email, MSN, Skype ). If rANDY wants the attention we can do better than this I assure you.
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On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you.
Not like it matters I mean, in the end those sponsorships will stick around as long as they realize it is worth it. But what IS worth it in the long run is skill and showing results are tournaments, something desrow hasn't shown since February 17th 2010.
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On June 01 2011 02:14 Broesly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 00:58 rANDY wrote:On June 01 2011 00:50 my0s wrote:On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote: I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.
Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon? Interested in what all this about  Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders. glhf, do well @ MLG It is that they said they would give me LAN support when I played for them to insomnia40 LAN, in August 2010. I paid my own way and since then trying to get the money has been hard. They have sent me 23 Nov 2010 - 10 euros 30 Nov 2010 - 15 euros 5 Mar 2011 - 10 euros 13 May 2011 - 10 euros Out of the total of 90 euros they owed me, they say they will pay. I've just been watching DesRow's stream and apparently he is getting a salary aswell as LAN sponsorship, so I'm wondering what's taking RAGE so long... Let me just make it clear, that what you're doing is very unprofessional. You say RAGE owes you money ? Take it up with me, although I haven't been part of RAGE when you were, currently I handle everything that;s related to Starcraft 2. Throwing shit at the organization in a thread will get you nowhere, and if you`d really want to get payed, i`m pretty sure IM`ing me would have gotten you more further than this. I guess attention is worth much more to you. I`m very disapponted at how even former team members of desRow badmouth and disclose events that were clearly happening while the players were under contract with their teams. Attention is worth more to some than professionalism.
Excuse me? I think there is just one unprofessional side in this and that is RAGE, who promised everyone to pay them back but just won't, or take about a year to do so.
I was manager in RAGE at that time when three players were promised to go to DSRack (Joe, Bamboocha and FaiLo). About 2/3 weeks before the event the management said they didn't have the money and they couldn't send them. As it was promised to them upon joining I told them I would pay for it and they could return it to me later. I paid €156 to send these 3 players to DSRack and expected the money back soon after.
Luckily for me their payments on my account went a bit faster than for the other players/managers who still deserved money. But as of today I still need to get €15 of the €156 total. I know €15 isn't much and that is why I haven't been bumming his ass any more lately, but it's just not the right way of treating people who are willing to help you out.
23 Nov 2010 €56,00 EUR 25 Nov 2010 €50,00 EUR 30 Nov 2010 €20,00 EUR 29 Dec 2010 €15,00 EUR
[19-1-2011 21:35:47] Dmitriy "RAGE`darky" Astremskiy: Hello Else! I will pay you the last part this week. [19-1-2011 21:41:56] Elsemiek Jager: ok good to hear thanks [19-1-2011 21:43:53] Dmitriy "RAGE`darky" Astremskiy: it's not so good but still it's better late than never. [19-1-2011 21:44:04] Elsemiek Jager: hehe true
So please don't say rANDY is acting unprofessional, as this case already started in August with rANDY and they made it even worse when they owed money to me and another manager afterwards.
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this thread is really making rage sound like a joke, which is good because desrow doesn't deserve a real team
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What's with all the hype behind desrow? He's such a typical and uninspiring player, and his play is similar to someone who just got out of being low masters. Someone like that doesn't belong on a "professional" team.
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On June 01 2011 05:41 elitesniper420 wrote: What's with all the hype behind desrow? He's such a typical and uninspiring player, and his play is similar to someone who just got out of being low masters. Someone like that doesn't belong on a "professional" team. He isnt a top player, but he has a stream following. Similar to guys like destiny I would say. The difference between the two is destiny has actually had moderate sucess in tournaments, where as desrow has not. That wont stop his fans though from saying otherwise
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On June 01 2011 06:09 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 05:41 elitesniper420 wrote: What's with all the hype behind desrow? He's such a typical and uninspiring player, and his play is similar to someone who just got out of being low masters. Someone like that doesn't belong on a "professional" team. He isnt a top player, but he has a stream following. Similar to guys like destiny I would say. The difference between the two is destiny has actually had moderate sucess in tournaments, where as desrow has not. That wont stop his fans though from saying otherwise I never even thought of that because:
1) he always has less viewers 2) he does nothing special like destiny's infestor builds 3) he commentates on his play much less
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i am also clueless as why Desrow is so popular. Probably because his stream is up everyday, he talks a lot, jokes a bit and has a lot of fans from the DOTA scene. Otherwise, it's surprising. I kinda understand the hate towards him but at the same time, he's an ok dude. He doesnt pretend he's that much a top player either. If he doesnt show decent results at Anaheim, i think he will have a hard time staying on the team.
Anyway, good luck desrow. Prove me wrong
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On June 01 2011 02:52 RaKooNs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you. What the hell is your problem? I know, its your god damn immaturity, im the same age as you and i would never, ever say that i feel insulted that somebody else was getting sponsrs and expanding the esports community, you are really putting a bad name on younger players trying to get to professional level. You need to wake up and realise that, no matter how much of a dick you are, you are an example and "role model" to some younger players. Now grow some balls and stop whining. Oh, and BTW desrow, congratulations on your new team!
Eh, fuck you. Poke has every right to be offended, he's some kid trying to make his way in sc2 who has great skills but now some other guy is getting sponsored for playing the same game at a lower level, just because he's better at "marketing".
Rage's reaction in this thread has been very disappointing too.
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Wow kinda shocking. Never heard of this team RAGE lol but all in all Congrats Desrow good guy overall has his rage problems but who doesnt hope the best for you there !!
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meh, seeing desRow play against BRAT_OK in that showmatch...i'm not overly impressed by his play. bratok literally destroyed him, and being payed and on a professional team...he better be improving quickly. From what i've read in this thread, i'm not a fan of him.
Good luck with your future endeavours i guess.
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On June 01 2011 05:03 mewby wrote: this thread is really making rage sound like a joke, which is good because desrow doesn't deserve a real team
This. It seems like they told him that he's gonna be sent out to MLG Anaheim when actually he might never go since RAGE seems to have some financial troubles lol. I bet they won't actually pay like 300$ (like he's trying to raise on his stream for columbus) just to send out 1 guy to the MLG. Looking at the RAGE website atm and i don't wanna be rude, but it's far from a "professional" website this organization have. It indeed look like a joke sadly.
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I'm sorry, could someone fill me in about Rage? I clicked the "About" on their website, but nothing came up. Is this a team anyone should care about? Or is it just another expression of the esports bubble?
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I don't know if anyone is going to write a complete history about them, but maybe this will help fill you in: http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/team/log/4973256/
Guess we should consider ourselves lucky we didn't get a thread every time they signed somebody in the past.
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love desrow, will be a rage fanboy just for him!!!!!! (I'm MindfulTravis mod on des' stream ^.^)
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Desrow Fighting .. Super interested to see where desrow will take this opportunity and how he performs at mlg Columbus GO DESROW!
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go go desrow !!! i know u can make it to top 16 at least !!!
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On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote: .......
My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.
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- Nick Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me.... Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you.
I'm surprised, someone who is on a good team with sponsors should know that they (sponsors) like people who can promote and get an audience as well as someone who has talent. While sponsors do look for good players they also like players that have an established fan base rather than just some ladder hero people have heard of but no one really knows who they are. It can be frustrating when you think you deserve more than someone is given but bashing someone's self made success and saying that you're "insulted" because they are given more than what you think they deserve, especially when you think you deserve it more, is just plain rude and disrespectful.
Again while talent does play a huge role in getting on a team, sponsors also like the possibility of having a player that can play the game at a semi-high level AND also has a lot of followers they can advertise their product/service to. Teams and sponsors find players more valuable if they have a name for themselves and a fan base before they have a big name team promote a player themselves. It's a lot harder for players at this level to get on a team when they do not have a following/fan base so in that sense I applaud Des in getting this deal since he has worked hard and made his own success before this offer was presented to him regardless of if he hurt your feelings or not in the process. To wrap this up I'm not saying that yes he deserves it or no he doesn't because that's not the point, the point is that you should understand why players are picked for sponsorships and that it's not solely based on their level of talent.
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Rage signing Desrow and CupCake!? Recipe for disaster.
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On June 02 2011 06:54 Dave. wrote: Rage signing Desrow and CupCake!? Recipe for disaster.
Jesus christ, what a teaser. Must. Resist. Temptation.
Anyway, it's gonna be interesting to see how they perform in the upcoming tournaments.
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Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him.
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EDIT: never mind everything is already said here.
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On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch  Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him.
lol, you actually think that?
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Desrow fighting! Thanks Team RAGE for picking up our boy!
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Okay, I'll put 10 down on a showmatch between pokebunny and desrow. Cupcake is pretty good I've sparred with him on ladder. Not bad picks.
Why did Desrow leave vVv?
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Gz! Watching desrows stream alot, its very good too learn the way of the protoss!
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On June 02 2011 21:28 sereniity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch  Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him. lol, you actually think that?
Desrow is way better than Pokebunny. His micro and macro both make Pokebunny look like a plat leaguer. You can tell that Desrow is a much better person too, by the number of us posting and defending him. Desrow said on his stream that people were making stuff up about him and here we are.
Anyways I call a 3-0 for Desrow in a Bo7 showmatch, with Pokebunny not showing up for the 4th game due to shame/embarassment.
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On June 03 2011 14:25 DuckloadDimaga wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 21:28 sereniity wrote:On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch  Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him. lol, you actually think that? Desrow is way better than Pokebunny. His micro and macro both make Pokebunny look like a plat leaguer. You can tell that Desrow is a much better person too, by the number of us posting and defending him. Desrow said on his stream that people were making stuff up about him and here we are. Anyways I call a 3-0 for Desrow in a Bo7 showmatch, with Pokebunny not showing up for the 4th game due to shame/embarassment.
LOL
A bo7 between desrow and pokebunny would easily be a 4-1 or 4-0 for pokebunny...
He's miles above desrow in skill.
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On June 03 2011 14:25 DuckloadDimaga wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 21:28 sereniity wrote:On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch  Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him. lol, you actually think that? Desrow is way better than Pokebunny. His micro and macro both make Pokebunny look like a plat leaguer. You can tell that Desrow is a much better person too, by the number of us posting and defending him. Desrow said on his stream that people were making stuff up about him and here we are. Anyways I call a 3-0 for Desrow in a Bo7 showmatch, with Pokebunny not showing up for the 4th game due to shame/embarassment.
people shouldn't be allowed to pose as pro gamers like this. A lot of people would actually think this is Dimaga, lol.
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I'm willing to donate a small prize money for a showmatch between Pokebunny and Desrow just to prove that Desrow is a really bad player.
I watch his stream and I have no idea how the hell he wins games, he's so bad.
I've already done a showmatch not long ago between Sheth and Azz for a 50$ prize. I don't mind doing something like that again. If the players are interested, you are welcome to contact me.
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On June 04 2011 21:55 GreatOldOne wrote: I'm willing to donate a small prize money for a showmatch between Pokebunny and Desrow just to prove that Desrow is a really bad player.
I watch his stream and I have no idea how the hell he wins games, he's so bad.
I've already done a showmatch not long ago between Sheth and Azz for a 50$ prize. I don't mind doing something like that again. If the players are interested, you are welcome to contact me.
Just to give a little prespective. Pokebunny is in the 5th round of open bracket going undefeated so far. his only 2 hurtles are agh and the winner of julyzerg vs catz.
desrow has no such tournament showing, wether it be online or offline.
I would donate to see pokebunny crash desrow. but i'd rather just hand the money to pokebunny. it'd take less time.
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Yeah I got trolled by "dimaga" for a second. As stated I'll throw down 10 on a showmatch between them, I'm sure at least 3 other people would donate something to get a 50 dollar showmatch. PM me if interested I'll contact them myself.
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Did desrow attend MLG columbus? I heard he did not - too expensive
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How about everybody instead of stating get these players to play and see who comes out the victory im sure if we all pitch in 10 bucks we have a epic showmatch and it would show everybody who the best player of the 2 are so as the words of the great ref from boxing forgot his name lol.........LETS GET IT ON
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Every time a team signs Desrow or Deezer this kind of hate threat starts. It really shows why having a bad image can hurt your chances of joining a team and hurt the team that signs you. This same kind of stuff happened when that Brazilian team signed Deezer.
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so what happened? why did desrow leave RAGE?
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