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dom_dom666
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 18:36:42
May 31 2011 18:36 GMT
#241
LOL desrow gettin sponsored. All this guy achieved in sc2 was to take 10 pounds.

User was temp banned for this post.
smacky
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States108 Posts
May 31 2011 18:45 GMT
#242
yeah no point in arguing and flaming pokebunny anymore he is an established player (lol). clearly he is jealous of desrows recent success and rather than congratulate his former teammate he chose to come to his announcement thread and call him bad and say other people deserved it more but he is established right?

so, pokebunny, go ahead and cry some more and this time we wont say a word....this wont happen when you can drive man things will be different in high school....this wont happen

grats des, well played....stupid donkeys just dont know what hit em

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Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
May 31 2011 19:15 GMT
#243
I think desrow fanboys are aiming to reach the same level as IdrA's fanboy when it comes to making a fool of themselves on the forums, lol!
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Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
May 31 2011 19:28 GMT
#244
On June 01 2011 02:14 Broesly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 00:58 rANDY wrote:
On June 01 2011 00:50 my0s wrote:
On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote:
I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.

Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon?


Interested in what all this about



Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders.

glhf, do well @ MLG


It is that they said they would give me LAN support when I played for them to insomnia40 LAN, in August 2010. I paid my own way and since then trying to get the money has been hard.

They have sent me

23 Nov 2010 - 10 euros
30 Nov 2010 - 15 euros
5 Mar 2011 - 10 euros
13 May 2011 - 10 euros

Out of the total of 90 euros they owed me, they say they will pay. I've just been watching DesRow's stream and apparently he is getting a salary aswell as LAN sponsorship, so I'm wondering what's taking RAGE so long...



Let me just make it clear, that what you're doing is very unprofessional. You say RAGE owes you money ? Take it up with me, although I haven't been part of RAGE when you were, currently I handle everything that;s related to Starcraft 2. Throwing shit at the organization in a thread will get you nowhere, and if you`d really want to get payed, i`m pretty sure IM`ing me would have gotten you more further than this. I guess attention is worth much more to you.

I`m very disapponted at how even former team members of desRow badmouth and disclose events that were clearly happening while the players were under contract with their teams. Attention is worth more to some than professionalism.


I won't call rANDY unprofessional basically me as his former manager in RAGE also contacted Dmitriy from time to time. And what he is stating is true, Dmitriy 1st promised rANDY to pay the whole amount of his balance in 2 weeks ( that was 9 months ago ). And no need to PM you since both of us have the Dmitriy's contact ( FB, Email, MSN, Skype ). If rANDY wants the attention we can do better than this I assure you.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
May 31 2011 19:33 GMT
#245
On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:
On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote:
.......

My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.

........

- Nick



Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me....

Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you.


Not like it matters I mean, in the end those sponsorships will stick around as long as they realize it is worth it. But what IS worth it in the long run is skill and showing results are tournaments, something desrow hasn't shown since February 17th 2010.
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elsemiek88
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 19:35:30
May 31 2011 19:34 GMT
#246
On June 01 2011 02:14 Broesly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 00:58 rANDY wrote:
On June 01 2011 00:50 my0s wrote:
On June 01 2011 00:32 rANDY wrote:
I am surprised you (RAGE) are signing new players and promising to send then to MLG and Dreamhack when you haven't been "able" to pay off the 90 euros (45 remaining) you owe me since August 2010 due to a shortage of funds.

Upon reading this I expect I will be paid very soon?


Interested in what all this about



Anyway, gratz desrow. Hope you do well. Really thankful for your stream, hard to find a protoss player who consistently commentates while he plays these days. Plus such a reliable schedule so I can muse over your strategy while i drink my morning coffee before I hit the ladders.

glhf, do well @ MLG


It is that they said they would give me LAN support when I played for them to insomnia40 LAN, in August 2010. I paid my own way and since then trying to get the money has been hard.

They have sent me

23 Nov 2010 - 10 euros
30 Nov 2010 - 15 euros
5 Mar 2011 - 10 euros
13 May 2011 - 10 euros

Out of the total of 90 euros they owed me, they say they will pay. I've just been watching DesRow's stream and apparently he is getting a salary aswell as LAN sponsorship, so I'm wondering what's taking RAGE so long...



Let me just make it clear, that what you're doing is very unprofessional. You say RAGE owes you money ? Take it up with me, although I haven't been part of RAGE when you were, currently I handle everything that;s related to Starcraft 2. Throwing shit at the organization in a thread will get you nowhere, and if you`d really want to get payed, i`m pretty sure IM`ing me would have gotten you more further than this. I guess attention is worth much more to you.

I`m very disapponted at how even former team members of desRow badmouth and disclose events that were clearly happening while the players were under contract with their teams. Attention is worth more to some than professionalism.



Excuse me? I think there is just one unprofessional side in this and that is RAGE, who promised everyone to pay them back but just won't, or take about a year to do so.

I was manager in RAGE at that time when three players were promised to go to DSRack (Joe, Bamboocha and FaiLo). About 2/3 weeks before the event the management said they didn't have the money and they couldn't send them. As it was promised to them upon joining I told them I would pay for it and they could return it to me later. I paid €156 to send these 3 players to DSRack and expected the money back soon after.

Luckily for me their payments on my account went a bit faster than for the other players/managers who still deserved money. But as of today I still need to get €15 of the €156 total. I know €15 isn't much and that is why I haven't been bumming his ass any more lately, but it's just not the right way of treating people who are willing to help you out.

23 Nov 2010 €56,00 EUR
25 Nov 2010 €50,00 EUR
30 Nov 2010 €20,00 EUR
29 Dec 2010 €15,00 EUR

[19-1-2011 21:35:47] Dmitriy "RAGE`darky" Astremskiy: Hello Else! I will pay you the last part this week.
[19-1-2011 21:41:56] Elsemiek Jager: ok good to hear thanks
[19-1-2011 21:43:53] Dmitriy "RAGE`darky" Astremskiy: it's not so good but still it's better late than never.
[19-1-2011 21:44:04] Elsemiek Jager: hehe true

So please don't say rANDY is acting unprofessional, as this case already started in August with rANDY and they made it even worse when they owed money to me and another manager afterwards.
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mewbert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States291 Posts
May 31 2011 20:03 GMT
#247
this thread is really making rage sound like a joke, which is good because desrow doesn't deserve a real team
elitesniper420
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada135 Posts
May 31 2011 20:41 GMT
#248
What's with all the hype behind desrow? He's such a typical and uninspiring player, and his play is similar to someone who just got out of being low masters. Someone like that doesn't belong on a "professional" team.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 31 2011 21:09 GMT
#249
On June 01 2011 05:41 elitesniper420 wrote:
What's with all the hype behind desrow? He's such a typical and uninspiring player, and his play is similar to someone who just got out of being low masters. Someone like that doesn't belong on a "professional" team.

He isnt a top player, but he has a stream following. Similar to guys like destiny I would say. The difference between the two is destiny has actually had moderate sucess in tournaments, where as desrow has not. That wont stop his fans though from saying otherwise
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elitesniper420
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada135 Posts
May 31 2011 21:16 GMT
#250
On June 01 2011 06:09 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 05:41 elitesniper420 wrote:
What's with all the hype behind desrow? He's such a typical and uninspiring player, and his play is similar to someone who just got out of being low masters. Someone like that doesn't belong on a "professional" team.

He isnt a top player, but he has a stream following. Similar to guys like destiny I would say. The difference between the two is destiny has actually had moderate sucess in tournaments, where as desrow has not. That wont stop his fans though from saying otherwise

I never even thought of that because:

1) he always has less viewers
2) he does nothing special like destiny's infestor builds
3) he commentates on his play much less
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
May 31 2011 21:46 GMT
#251
i am also clueless as why Desrow is so popular. Probably because his stream is up everyday, he talks a lot, jokes a bit and has a lot of fans from the DOTA scene. Otherwise, it's surprising. I kinda understand the hate towards him but at the same time, he's an ok dude. He doesnt pretend he's that much a top player either. If he doesnt show decent results at Anaheim, i think he will have a hard time staying on the team.

Anyway, good luck desrow. Prove me wrong
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Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
May 31 2011 21:56 GMT
#252
On June 01 2011 02:52 RaKooNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:
On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:
On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote:
.......

My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.

........

- Nick



Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me....

Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you.


What the hell is your problem? I know, its your god damn immaturity, im the same age as you and i would never, ever say that i feel insulted that somebody else was getting sponsrs and expanding the esports community, you are really putting a bad name on younger players trying to get to professional level. You need to wake up and realise that, no matter how much of a dick you are, you are an example and "role model" to some younger players. Now grow some balls and stop whining.

Oh, and BTW desrow, congratulations on your new team!


Eh, fuck you. Poke has every right to be offended, he's some kid trying to make his way in sc2 who has great skills but now some other guy is getting sponsored for playing the same game at a lower level, just because he's better at "marketing".

Rage's reaction in this thread has been very disappointing too.
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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 16:25:08
May 31 2011 22:14 GMT
#253
Wow kinda shocking. Never heard of this team RAGE lol but all in all Congrats Desrow good guy overall has his rage problems but who doesnt hope the best for you there !!
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 31 2011 22:30 GMT
#254
meh, seeing desRow play against BRAT_OK in that showmatch...i'm not overly impressed by his play. bratok literally destroyed him, and being payed and on a professional team...he better be improving quickly. From what i've read in this thread, i'm not a fan of him.

Good luck with your future endeavours i guess.
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DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 23:37:46
May 31 2011 23:34 GMT
#255
On June 01 2011 05:03 mewby wrote:
this thread is really making rage sound like a joke, which is good because desrow doesn't deserve a real team


This. It seems like they told him that he's gonna be sent out to MLG Anaheim when actually he might never go since RAGE seems to have some financial troubles lol. I bet they won't actually pay like 300$ (like he's trying to raise on his stream for columbus) just to send out 1 guy to the MLG. Looking at the RAGE website atm and i don't wanna be rude, but it's far from a "professional" website this organization have. It indeed look like a joke sadly.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
June 01 2011 00:00 GMT
#256
I'm sorry, could someone fill me in about Rage? I clicked the "About" on their website, but nothing came up. Is this a team anyone should care about? Or is it just another expression of the esports bubble?
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
June 01 2011 00:29 GMT
#257
I don't know if anyone is going to write a complete history about them, but maybe this will help fill you in: http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2/team/log/4973256/

Guess we should consider ourselves lucky we didn't get a thread every time they signed somebody in the past.
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BladeofHell
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada23 Posts
June 01 2011 16:53 GMT
#258
love desrow, will be a rage fanboy just for him!!!!!! (I'm MindfulTravis mod on des' stream ^.^)
Why so serious???
Stoicus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States5 Posts
June 01 2011 19:50 GMT
#259
Desrow Fighting .. Super interested to see where desrow will take this opportunity and how he performs at mlg Columbus GO DESROW!
It always hurts at first in time you'll learn to like it.
clownzim
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil267 Posts
June 01 2011 21:09 GMT
#260
go go desrow !!! i know u can make it to top 16 at least !!!
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