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Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States535 Posts
June 01 2011 21:43 GMT
#261
On June 01 2011 01:12 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 01:04 Azide wrote:
On May 31 2011 10:21 Pokebunny wrote:
.......

My biggest issue with desRow is that when promoting himself, he seems to basically not give a shit who he puts down as well as often overhyping himself to the point that he is bothering other players. I have no problems with him succeeding and I am not "jealous" of his stream popularity in any way, but it is unacceptable to step on others toes as much as he has on the route to mediocre stardom. The fact remains that he is still mediocre for a full-time professional player and I personally feel a bit insulted that he is basically now receiving more team/sponsor benefits than me. I don't mind too much, though it does drive me to improve and do what I can to make a name for myself in the eSports world.

........

- Nick



Hmmmmm..... sounds like someone is jealous to me....

Yeah, sorry, less than stellar word choice. I don't really have a problem with people getting more sponsor benefits than me, but I don't feel like it is deserved and therefore I feel insulted. You would be surprised at the number of top players (players that I'm sure even desRow would agree are above him) don't receive personal salaries from their teams. I suppose if you look at it that way I am jealous, but I guess it just goes to show how much self-promotion can do for you.


I'm surprised, someone who is on a good team with sponsors should know that they (sponsors) like people who can promote and get an audience as well as someone who has talent. While sponsors do look for good players they also like players that have an established fan base rather than just some ladder hero people have heard of but no one really knows who they are. It can be frustrating when you think you deserve more than someone is given but bashing someone's self made success and saying that you're "insulted" because they are given more than what you think they deserve, especially when you think you deserve it more, is just plain rude and disrespectful.

Again while talent does play a huge role in getting on a team, sponsors also like the possibility of having a player that can play the game at a semi-high level AND also has a lot of followers they can advertise their product/service to. Teams and sponsors find players more valuable if they have a name for themselves and a fan base before they have a big name team promote a player themselves. It's a lot harder for players at this level to get on a team when they do not have a following/fan base so in that sense I applaud Des in getting this deal since he has worked hard and made his own success before this offer was presented to him regardless of if he hurt your feelings or not in the process. To wrap this up I'm not saying that yes he deserves it or no he doesn't because that's not the point, the point is that you should understand why players are picked for sponsorships and that it's not solely based on their level of talent.



Live it up.
Dave.
Profile Joined August 2010
Ireland272 Posts
June 01 2011 21:54 GMT
#262
Rage signing Desrow and CupCake!? Recipe for disaster.
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Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
June 01 2011 22:11 GMT
#263
On June 02 2011 06:54 Dave. wrote:
Rage signing Desrow and CupCake!? Recipe for disaster.


Jesus christ, what a teaser. Must. Resist. Temptation.

Anyway, it's gonna be interesting to see how they perform in the upcoming tournaments.
DuckloadDimaga
Profile Joined April 2011
Ukraine21 Posts
June 02 2011 12:03 GMT
#264
Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him.
julius33
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Estonia79 Posts
June 02 2011 12:06 GMT
#265
Go Desrow!
Rahulikult!
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 12:28:36
June 02 2011 12:26 GMT
#266
EDIT: never mind everything is already said here.
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sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
June 02 2011 12:28 GMT
#267
On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:
Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him.


lol, you actually think that?
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
AMW1011
Profile Joined April 2011
United States13 Posts
June 02 2011 19:38 GMT
#268
Desrow fighting! Thanks Team RAGE for picking up our boy!
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
June 02 2011 20:03 GMT
#269
Okay, I'll put 10 down on a showmatch between pokebunny and desrow. Cupcake is pretty good I've sparred with him on ladder. Not bad picks.

Why did Desrow leave vVv?
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iRk
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden83 Posts
June 02 2011 22:45 GMT
#270
Gz! Watching desrows stream alot, its very good too learn the way of the protoss!
Think less, play more.
DuckloadDimaga
Profile Joined April 2011
Ukraine21 Posts
June 03 2011 05:25 GMT
#271
On June 02 2011 21:28 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:
Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him.


lol, you actually think that?


Desrow is way better than Pokebunny. His micro and macro both make Pokebunny look like a plat leaguer. You can tell that Desrow is a much better person too, by the number of us posting and defending him. Desrow said on his stream that people were making stuff up about him and here we are.

Anyways I call a 3-0 for Desrow in a Bo7 showmatch, with Pokebunny not showing up for the 4th game due to shame/embarassment.
Beefwipe
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom56 Posts
June 04 2011 12:03 GMT
#272
On June 03 2011 14:25 DuckloadDimaga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 21:28 sereniity wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:
Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him.


lol, you actually think that?


Desrow is way better than Pokebunny. His micro and macro both make Pokebunny look like a plat leaguer. You can tell that Desrow is a much better person too, by the number of us posting and defending him. Desrow said on his stream that people were making stuff up about him and here we are.

Anyways I call a 3-0 for Desrow in a Bo7 showmatch, with Pokebunny not showing up for the 4th game due to shame/embarassment.


LOL

A bo7 between desrow and pokebunny would easily be a 4-1 or 4-0 for pokebunny...

He's miles above desrow in skill.
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
June 04 2011 12:09 GMT
#273
On June 03 2011 14:25 DuckloadDimaga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 21:28 sereniity wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:03 DuckloadDimaga wrote:
Would love to see a Desrow vs Pokebunny showmatch Pokebunny talking big here about how he's "insulted" but Desrow would probably crush him.


lol, you actually think that?


Desrow is way better than Pokebunny. His micro and macro both make Pokebunny look like a plat leaguer. You can tell that Desrow is a much better person too, by the number of us posting and defending him. Desrow said on his stream that people were making stuff up about him and here we are.

Anyways I call a 3-0 for Desrow in a Bo7 showmatch, with Pokebunny not showing up for the 4th game due to shame/embarassment.


people shouldn't be allowed to pose as pro gamers like this. A lot of people would actually think this is Dimaga, lol.
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
GreatOldOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
101 Posts
June 04 2011 12:55 GMT
#274
I'm willing to donate a small prize money for a showmatch between Pokebunny and Desrow just to prove that Desrow is a really bad player.

I watch his stream and I have no idea how the hell he wins games, he's so bad.

I've already done a showmatch not long ago between Sheth and Azz for a 50$ prize. I don't mind doing something like that again. If the players are interested, you are welcome to contact me.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
June 04 2011 13:07 GMT
#275
On June 04 2011 21:55 GreatOldOne wrote:
I'm willing to donate a small prize money for a showmatch between Pokebunny and Desrow just to prove that Desrow is a really bad player.

I watch his stream and I have no idea how the hell he wins games, he's so bad.

I've already done a showmatch not long ago between Sheth and Azz for a 50$ prize. I don't mind doing something like that again. If the players are interested, you are welcome to contact me.


Just to give a little prespective. Pokebunny is in the 5th round of open bracket going undefeated so far. his only 2 hurtles are agh and the winner of julyzerg vs catz.

desrow has no such tournament showing, wether it be online or offline.

I would donate to see pokebunny crash desrow. but i'd rather just hand the money to pokebunny. it'd take less time.


JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
June 04 2011 17:05 GMT
#276
Yeah I got trolled by "dimaga" for a second. As stated I'll throw down 10 on a showmatch between them, I'm sure at least 3 other people would donate something to get a 50 dollar showmatch. PM me if interested I'll contact them myself.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
June 06 2011 20:02 GMT
#277
Did desrow attend MLG columbus? I heard he did not - too expensive
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
June 14 2011 18:57 GMT
#278
How about everybody instead of stating get these players to play and see who comes out the victory im sure if we all pitch in 10 bucks we have a epic showmatch and it would show everybody who the best player of the 2 are so as the words of the great ref from boxing forgot his name lol.........LETS GET IT ON
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Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
June 16 2011 18:53 GMT
#279
Every time a team signs Desrow or Deezer this kind of hate threat starts. It really shows why having a bad image can hurt your chances of joining a team and hurt the team that signs you. This same kind of stuff happened when that Brazilian team signed Deezer.
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
st4nta
Profile Joined April 2011
United States215 Posts
July 16 2011 12:13 GMT
#280
so what happened? why did desrow leave RAGE?
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