EPTBeing actually scared to play on the ladder is just stupid, you will play against people relatively equal to you in skill, it is irrelevant if you win or lose and now they don't even show your losses anyway so who cares?
Could ladder fear be hurting Starcraft 2? - Page 11
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JLew
Canada353 Posts
Being actually scared to play on the ladder is just stupid, you will play against people relatively equal to you in skill, it is irrelevant if you win or lose and now they don't even show your losses anyway so who cares? | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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Quesa
United States304 Posts
On June 04 2011 01:48 elitesniper420 wrote: the effect works oppositely, I'm judging you for not laddering even when it doesn't show your # of losses The condition has nothing to do with win and loss records, it's an irrational fear of doing something; irrational fears are very difficult to rationalize. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
now that i dont see how many losses i have, i dont really care and just keep playing. hope i can keep that up if i arrive in masters in a distant future and see my horrible win/loss ratio  | ||
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Stress
United States980 Posts
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nka203
United States102 Posts
On June 04 2011 01:57 Xercen wrote: to be honest if you can't even get over ladder fear from playing a game then god only knows what can help you if you meet some gorgeous beautiful woman but suffer from woman fear. Just get over it or you'll die a ladder virgin and prolly a irl virgin too. Too right mate. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Find myself mostly playing team games with friends rather than 1vs1. It's fun, stress free, can play offrace and use completely messed up strategies and still be victorious. You should be able to get over the "ladder fear" by actually playing ladder, it may sound stupid but I'd imagine that works for most people. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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cydereal
United States193 Posts
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Mayor
United States472 Posts
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displaced
22 Posts
On June 04 2011 01:09 Rushingwolf wrote: the real problem with sc2 ladder is that generic strategies like 4 gate are ruining ladder, as a casual player its just a waste of time being forced to do the same lame shit every game because blizzard decided to ruin sc2 by hardcountering everything innovative and fun with 4 gate/ling roach all in and 3 rax what do you mean "innovative and fun"? mothership rush? mass planetary fortresses? simulating your own online ant farm with 120 drones and 40 queens? i'm sure you can do all this in a custom game, FFA, or fastest map possible. a ladder is by definition competitive, so you can't argue that "safe, easy to execute, and effective strategies" are ruining the ladder. people play ladder to compete and to win. what you might argue is that there isn't a good alternative to 1v1 ladder for the casual players where people just mess around (since custom games are often used as practice). | ||
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Souljah
United States423 Posts
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m4thje
208 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:35 cydereal wrote: The only way to start getting good at Starcraft is to quit caring about points. Play to learn timings and fluidity, and you'll move up the ladder naturally. I completely agree with this one.. In the first month, I had some fear to lose the points I had. But you should get over it and just push that "Find match". And you'll see you will get better . I don't agree that Ladder fear hurts Starcraft II. I think it's just a 'process' you have to go through. | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
No can deny that it is hurting SC2, it's just too obvious. It has nothing to do with "hurr they're scared" or "durr just play customs". When someone is scared they aren't playing SC2 as much or stop all together, thus "hurting" it. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
I never felt it in war3, but in sc2, watching it search just makes me want to hit cancel for some reason | ||
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rawbertson
Canada95 Posts
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Akta
447 Posts
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
Having a competitive ladder is a good thing for the game. Even if people are afraid of the competitiveness of a competitive ladder, having the ladder is still a good thing. Giving an option to turn off ladder ranking isn't a good solution; If too many people turn off their ladder ranking, then it would undermine the ladder as a tool to see where one stands in relation to everyone else. | ||
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Battousai13
United States638 Posts
I honestly don't understand why some people insist on having a "practice ladder" so they can preserve their ratings and rankings. If you don't want to hurt it, go play customs. If you want to match with someone your own skill level, then get a practice partner. No practice partners? Go play team games and work on your mechanics. I seriously do not believe anyone that has laddering fears is in Master league. If that is the case, these players can always work to improve their mechanics. And this can always be done in team games. I used to be so afraid of laddering 1's because I might be demoted to something lower than Gold league. However, after I got Diamond league in 2's, 3's, and 4's, I just stopped caring about what-if's and laddered 1's. I took a few losses, but for the most part won a large amount of my games. I'm talking 7-3 records in about two hours of laddering. Just ladder like it was any other game. No one makes progress from pussyfooting around. | ||
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
Either way, ladder fear is a problem, and thanks for putting it out there. For everyone else, you have to understand not every gamer is looking to learn, or make progress, or be successful in the same way. | ||
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