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On May 18 2011 00:17 busbarn wrote:Missing out on MLG, DH and maybe homestory cup only to have a slight chance of beating one or two koreans is probably not worth it 
I believe the first place prize for GSL supertournament is more than the sum of the total prize pools of those other three tournaments. Anyone with a chance of winning should compete in the GSL tourney imo...
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Dimaga and WhiteRa declined? Cheap bastards. What about representing the motherland?
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On May 18 2011 00:25 longdivision wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 00:17 busbarn wrote:Missing out on MLG, DH and maybe homestory cup only to have a slight chance of beating one or two koreans is probably not worth it I believe the first place prize for GSL supertournament is more than the sum of the total prize pools of those other three tournaments. Anyone with a chance of winning should compete in the GSL tourney imo...
Lets not beat around the bush here, the foreigners that declined dont have the skill necessary to make it deep into the tournament.
Some might make it to ro32 but thats a pittance compared to potential money they can make in NA and EU.
I just wish people would stop asking why foreigners wont participate in GSL ffs, the answer is clear as day.
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On May 18 2011 00:24 nYaLa wrote:
I can understand why foreigners decline.
Outside Korea more tournaments,more money etc.
not more money if u can win this tournament lol
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If I had to choose between going to this tournament, flying all the way out to Korea (very expensive!!) to lose in the first round, or to go to MLG and maybe make it considerably deeper with a real chance to take home some money, you're damn straight I'm going to Columbus rather than Seoul.
Do I wish that first/second round loss wasn't such a foregone conclusion? I do. Sadly it is for most top foreigners, even the ones they invited.
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On May 18 2011 00:26 Reasonable wrote:
Dimaga and WhiteRa declined? Cheap bastards. What about representing the motherland?
i think they have convincable reasons not being 'able' to attend
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Wow, all the foreigners not living in Korea declined.
That's too bad. :/
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I think Sen declined because he had school. He was interested at first.
Not sure why Loner declined.
The rest of the foreigners declined because they think it's not worth the plane ticket there. Remember losing in the first round nets you a grand total of $0.
Also it's irrelevant to compare foreigners choosing MLG over GSL to MMA, Losira, Bomber and Moon because their travel and accommodation are paid by MLG. Of course it might have been better to go to GSL to compete than MLG, but it's up to the players to decide. Personally I think they prefer the Western English speaking environment and less time spent for MLG than Korea.
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1 US dollar = 1,088 won right now.
Winner of this tournament gets $92,000.
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On May 17 2011 23:51 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 23:15 Morale wrote:
Morrow, TT1, moonglade, whitera and dimaga. I'm now rooting against these players and not for them, no matter how much I like Dimaga's play.
Well thats stupid from youre part ... Would have been awesome with more foreigners, but it is what it is
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I think Naniwa would compete if only he got GSL points. He has decent chance to win this tournament imo.
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Why cant the GSL just have standard tournaments every month ??
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Morrow, TT1, moonglade, whitera, Dimaga, Idra and Ret declined.
We could have 9 foreigners there. But we don't, because:
1 - Long ass tournament;
2 - It only means something if you win the whole thing, which means if they all went only 1 (if one) would come with enough money to make it worthwhile;
3 - Too many foreigner tournaments: MLG, DreamHack, NASL and possibly others they would have a very hard time competing.
And there are more, like, White-RA has a family he would have to leave for one month, and a Job he can't just throw away. And many players have Jobs/Families/School.
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On May 18 2011 00:45 namedplayer wrote:
I think Naniwa would compete if only he got GSL points. He has decent chance to win this tournament imo.
Recently he got beaten in the nasl by st squirtle (protoss player not even code a) , wouldn't be too confident of naniwa if i were you.
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On May 18 2011 00:25 longdivision wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 00:17 busbarn wrote:Missing out on MLG, DH and maybe homestory cup only to have a slight chance of beating one or two koreans is probably not worth it I believe the first place prize for GSL supertournament is more than the sum of the total prize pools of those other three tournaments. Anyone with a chance of winning should compete in the GSL tourney imo...
What exactly did busbarn say that you opposed?
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I wonder if the brackets are going to be determined by GSL points. If so we'd have awesome first round matchups and plenty of potential for upsets. I pity the fool who has to face bomber in the first round.
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White-Ra declined because he had to meet with his sponsors in Taiwan or something like that. I believe that's what he said when someone asked him when he was streaming a few days ago, it could've been a few weeks ago as well.
That sucks there are only two foreigners, and they're essentially "Korean" foreigners.
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On May 18 2011 00:48 Jotoco wrote:
Morrow, TT1, moonglade, whitera, Dimaga, Idra and Ret declined.
We could have 9 foreigners there. But we don't, because:
1 - Long ass tournament;
2 - It only means something if you win the whole thing, which means if they all went only 1 (if one) would come with enough money to make it worthwhile;
3 - Too many foreigner tournaments: MLG, DreamHack, NASL and possibly others they would have a very hard time competing.
And there are more, like, White-RA has a family he would have to leave for one month, and a Job he can't just throw away. And many players have Jobs/Families/School.
exactly, its just sad sc2 is all about money. can't have them at fault for it though.
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The Tournament is way to long if you made them shorter like MLG dreamhack alot more foreigners would come..
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On May 18 2011 00:49 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 00:25 longdivision wrote:On May 18 2011 00:17 busbarn wrote:Missing out on MLG, DH and maybe homestory cup only to have a slight chance of beating one or two koreans is probably not worth it I believe the first place prize for GSL supertournament is more than the sum of the total prize pools of those other three tournaments. Anyone with a chance of winning should compete in the GSL tourney imo... What exactly did busbarn say that you opposed?
I'm saying that participating in the GSL is worth it due to the prize money. Winning MLG and Dreamhack will be just as difficult as competing in the GSL since Koreans will be flying out to attend both of those events. Compare the prize money:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_GSL_Super_Tournament
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Columbus
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/DreamHack_Summer_2011
Of course travel expenses are an issue but team sponsors can cover that. It also could be possible that GOM would pay for plane tickets since that's what they did for the world championship tournament. I dunno if GOM would do that again.
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