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[Interview] GSL Nestea vs Inca Final - Page 3

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peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
May 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#41
Awesome! Thanks for the interview. Congrats to Nestea for winning another GSL!!
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
May 14 2011 20:32 GMT
#42
the games were absolutely terrible by InCa, GSL finals make me sad, the only good season was season 2 with NesTea vs MKP the rest have the finals curse
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
gulden
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany205 Posts
May 14 2011 20:33 GMT
#43
On May 15 2011 03:02 annul wrote:
GIRLFRIEND uses CLEAN!

It's super effective!

haha, nice interview though
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
May 14 2011 21:06 GMT
#44
LOL does anyone else feel like it is ALWAYS "Zerg's darkest hour". Not trying to start a balance discussion or take anything away from NesTea (he played amazing) I just think its funny.
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 21:22:51
May 14 2011 21:18 GMT
#45
It's Zerg's darkest hour? Why, are they blocking out the sun with all their tournament trophies?

Nice interview!
Rareware
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada340 Posts
May 14 2011 21:20 GMT
#46
Nestea is such a baller, he single handedly ended the reign of the Eunjung blessing with such decisive victories.
ROOT Fighting!!!
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
May 14 2011 21:24 GMT
#47
On May 15 2011 06:18 Paradice wrote:
It's Zerg's darkest hour? Why, are they blocking out the sun with all their tournament trophies?

Nice interview!


What trophies? Zergs have been doing badly since gsl s2. Look at tsl, mlg dallas, iem and all the other gsls. Barely any zergs in top 8.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Foxx1
Profile Joined April 2011
United States57 Posts
May 14 2011 21:31 GMT
#48
Talk about free advertisement for "nestea" lol
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 21:38:36
May 14 2011 21:35 GMT
#49
On May 15 2011 06:24 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 06:18 Paradice wrote:
It's Zerg's darkest hour? Why, are they blocking out the sun with all their tournament trophies?

Nice interview!


What trophies? Zergs have been doing badly since gsl s2. Look at tsl, mlg dallas, iem and all the other gsls. Barely any zergs in top 8.

Zerg has been in the finals in the two most recent GSLs (one of them being a win); Zerg won Code A last GSL; ZvZ finals in Assembly; Zerg got second in IEM (no Terrans made it through groupstage, 4Z and 2P); Zerg won IPL; 3 Zergs in Ro8 of StarsWar despite there being no Terrans. Don't act like Zerg hasn't won anything.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
May 14 2011 21:39 GMT
#50
On May 15 2011 03:51 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 03:30 Belha wrote:
On May 15 2011 03:15 BandonBanshee wrote:
On May 15 2011 03:09 proxima_ wrote:
"Nestea winning during zerg darkest hour making it even more exciting!"

this is definitely not zerg's darkest hour - see GSL season 1.

as time goes on it's pretty obvious that zerg is not only capable of competing with the other races but also capable of winning plenty of tournaments

Lets be honest this finals showed us nothing of the current state of the game. All it showed us was that if u do the same build 3 games in a row you will get stomped. Inca never even made a colos.

Wtf. Have you seriuosly watched the finals? Are you bronze or Silver? In that case its ok. If not, how the fu... can Inca reach collosi before those timming attacks?? Nestea outplayed Inca badly, but still proves that Z is an amazing race to play....if you play it correctly. As he say:

"...you have to lose alot in order to know it. If you lose alot, slowly you will understand."

Wise words. Some Z´s must stop qq'ing a bit, and start to understand their race.


How about, dont rush DTs and get some sentries? He rushed DTs, Nestea was ready for it. Did that 3 games in a row...


I think the only reason Inca bothered to DT rush all the games is because DTs hard counter the roach/ling aggression.

If he 3gate expoed every game and Nestea went roach/ling, Nestea would've won every time.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
May 14 2011 21:46 GMT
#51
Nesteaaa 2x GSL Champ up there with MC. Now terran needs to step it up
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
May 14 2011 21:52 GMT
#52
Getting so sick of Nestea's responses. He's 17-3 against some of the best protoss' in the world lately and he still says zerg dont feel strong. Its such an annoying perspective when the good zerg players post awesome results with insane win ratios. This entire season zerg has posted better results vP than PvZ. Nestea's a great player, but I seriously wish he would put a lid on all his ridiculous balance comments
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
May 14 2011 23:02 GMT
#53
A: I dont know what to say, basically you have to lose alot in order to know it. If you lose alot, slowly you will understand.


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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
May 14 2011 23:07 GMT
#54
On May 15 2011 06:52 Jayrod wrote:
Getting so sick of Nestea's responses. He's 17-3 against some of the best protoss' in the world lately and he still says zerg dont feel strong. Its such an annoying perspective when the good zerg players post awesome results with insane win ratios. This entire season zerg has posted better results vP than PvZ. Nestea's a great player, but I seriously wish he would put a lid on all his ridiculous balance comments


Ehh I don't know about you but if what Nestea and Losira showed this season is the future of PvZ then imo it's still an extremely terrible matchup. Zergs still haven't really found an answer to toss late game they have just found a bunch of new timings to kill protoss players before they get to that late game. Once/If Toss finds an answer to these new timings it will just revert right back to what it was before.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 23:18:41
May 14 2011 23:17 GMT
#55
On May 15 2011 08:07 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 06:52 Jayrod wrote:
Getting so sick of Nestea's responses. He's 17-3 against some of the best protoss' in the world lately and he still says zerg dont feel strong. Its such an annoying perspective when the good zerg players post awesome results with insane win ratios. This entire season zerg has posted better results vP than PvZ. Nestea's a great player, but I seriously wish he would put a lid on all his ridiculous balance comments


Ehh I don't know about you but if what Nestea and Losira showed this season is the future of PvZ then imo it's still an extremely terrible matchup. Zergs still haven't really found an answer to toss late game they have just found a bunch of new timings to kill protoss players before they get to that late game. Once/If Toss finds an answer to these new timings it will just revert right back to what it was before.

nope, zergs have been doing a lot of crazy shit in the mid and lategame and have been having pretty good success with it.

basically zergs all realized that hive tech and infestors were the key to beating the deathball and then figured out their own ways to get those without dying. we'll see what happens if tosses switch to immortal/ht because that's a pretty brutal composition which we haven't seen much of, it might swing back into toss favour or it might not.

also, roach/ling isn't necessarily allin, so it's not like the earlygame of the matchup would become the only part which gets played if roach/ling becomes standard.
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Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
May 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#56
On May 15 2011 05:26 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 03:30 Belha wrote:
On May 15 2011 03:15 BandonBanshee wrote:
On May 15 2011 03:09 proxima_ wrote:
"Nestea winning during zerg darkest hour making it even more exciting!"

this is definitely not zerg's darkest hour - see GSL season 1.

as time goes on it's pretty obvious that zerg is not only capable of competing with the other races but also capable of winning plenty of tournaments

Lets be honest this finals showed us nothing of the current state of the game. All it showed us was that if u do the same build 3 games in a row you will get stomped. Inca never even made a colos.

Wtf. Have you seriuosly watched the finals? Are you bronze or Silver? In that case its ok. If not, how the fu... can Inca reach collosi before those timming attacks?? Nestea outplayed Inca badly, but still proves that Z is an amazing race to play....if you play it correctly. As he say:

"...you have to lose alot in order to know it. If you lose alot, slowly you will understand."

Wise words. Some Z´s must stop qq'ing a bit, and start to understand their race.


Inca reached dt tech before those timing attacks..... but it would have been impossible to reach collossus tech?


Your homework for today: Compare dt buildtime to colossus buildtime.

Hint:
+ Show Spoiler +
You can have a good amount of dts 5 seconds after dark shrine finished. You cant do this with colossi.

workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 14 2011 23:32 GMT
#57
On May 15 2011 06:46 I)etox wrote:
Nesteaaa 2x GSL Champ up there with MC. Now terran needs to step it up


Did you miss MVP winning 2 GSLs?
secret - never again
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
May 14 2011 23:39 GMT
#58
Nestea is boss Zerg, I love him! <3
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 23:45:55
May 14 2011 23:45 GMT
#59
edit cause of fail
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 00:30:43
May 14 2011 23:51 GMT
#60
On May 15 2011 06:39 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 03:51 L3gendary wrote:
On May 15 2011 03:30 Belha wrote:
On May 15 2011 03:15 BandonBanshee wrote:
On May 15 2011 03:09 proxima_ wrote:
"Nestea winning during zerg darkest hour making it even more exciting!"

this is definitely not zerg's darkest hour - see GSL season 1.

as time goes on it's pretty obvious that zerg is not only capable of competing with the other races but also capable of winning plenty of tournaments

Lets be honest this finals showed us nothing of the current state of the game. All it showed us was that if u do the same build 3 games in a row you will get stomped. Inca never even made a colos.

Wtf. Have you seriuosly watched the finals? Are you bronze or Silver? In that case its ok. If not, how the fu... can Inca reach collosi before those timming attacks?? Nestea outplayed Inca badly, but still proves that Z is an amazing race to play....if you play it correctly. As he say:

"...you have to lose alot in order to know it. If you lose alot, slowly you will understand."

Wise words. Some Z´s must stop qq'ing a bit, and start to understand their race.


How about, dont rush DTs and get some sentries? He rushed DTs, Nestea was ready for it. Did that 3 games in a row...


I think the only reason Inca bothered to DT rush all the games is because DTs hard counter the roach/ling aggression.

If he 3gate expoed every game and Nestea went roach/ling, Nestea would've won every time.


That's a great assumption, seeing as 3 gate sentry expand is probably the safest thing you can do against roach ling. He never did one properly so he lost. Even the first game he went for hallu phoenix and used up 4 ff worth of energy just before nestea attacked, not to mention the cost to research it and chronoboosts wasted. And I dont think you realize how much of a setback the dt tech was.

edit: If was using dts to counter roach ling then why didn't he? Instead he tried to kill Nestea with them. A stargate - voidray build would've been a cheaper and more effective counter if that's wat he wanted to do.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
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