EPTThe next two teams should be Liquid and IM.
Then we can see a team of ret/huk/haypro/jinro in the gstl :DD
GSTL May Teams - no IM - Page 9
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koolaid1990
831 Posts
The next two teams should be Liquid and IM. Then we can see a team of ret/huk/haypro/jinro in the gstl :DD | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
maybe they should look at the topX players of every team to decide, i hope they find a good solution for the GTSL after this =( | ||
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genius_man16
United States749 Posts
The fact that the team that's been in both finals is somehow not good enough to be in the league is pretty stupid. I don't care about GOM's system. They should have modified it somehow to make sure one of the best, if not the best, teams in the world got into the tournament. Just because they don't have 8 players in Code A doesn't mean they aren't a good team. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 10 2011 16:31 genius_man16 wrote: I'm utterly baffled that they can exclude IM. Sure they may not have the stupid points requirement, but surely going to the FINALS of both previous GSTL's has to account for something no? The fact that the team that's been in both finals is somehow not good enough to be in the league is pretty stupid. I don't care about GOM's system. They should have modified it somehow to make sure one of the best, if not the best, teams in the world got into the tournament. Just because they don't have 8 players in Code A doesn't mean they aren't a good team. See... but then the question comes up. Are they really the best team, or are they just very top heavy... and ride that advantage to the finals. Of course they still have other solid players... every team does, but overall it seems they rely on a few of their top players for a team league. Also, there honestly haven't been that many matches, and while getting to the finals both times is a great accomplishment, it also isn't unheard of. You need to win 2 matches to get to the finals and that's it. That all being said, I do think it sucks that they are not in because despite what I have said, I still feel they are deserving... but my argument is that the point system may still hold validity. It is to have a clear cut way of marking which team should qualify based on overall (as a team) performance. Hopefully that was all clear. | ||
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densha
United States797 Posts
 . Team league is always fun to watch and everything, but IM is such an amazing team. Aside from SC, it really seemed like fOu had faded away, I'm really surprised they beat out IM with this point system.I'd honestly rather have some bias invovled to get IM in the league than have them excluded completely. All I know is this makes everything a lot less exciting, even though I'm sure we'll see some great games. Oh well. | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
Also, this is really a problem because there's just *now* enough teams to expand the format. Remember, Liquid was 9th overall back during the first one, with only 3 ppl out in Korea. With 2 more Korean teams, they should probably consider extending the tournament out another round with some Byes for previous placing teams. Yeah, it'd add another 2 days to the Tournament, but it also gives them more Content. While odd, realistically, this is more of a problem of having more teams capable of fielding a competitive roster, so they really should look to expand for the next GSTL. | ||
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Fuoeh
Netherlands486 Posts
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Butcherski
Poland446 Posts
IM players win both Code S and Code A and dont get to play in GSTL ? That just silly. Whatever the solution they will choose they HAVE to get IM in there. | ||
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Yami_no_cosmos
Sweden59 Posts
I would love thou to see the IM-theme once again. They are such a lovable team. IMMVP+IMNestea= BRO LOVE! ♥ BRING IM BACK! That new map looks something from 'Pirates of the caribbean'. Yarr! | ||
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Sarmis
United States58 Posts
The method they use to choose teams for the GSTL has been well known, publicized, and completely transparent. To change it simply because people aren't happy with the results of that method - on the THIRD iteration of the team league - would be incredibly unfair to MVP. And to honestly expect GOM to change their method of team picking - a transparent method based on actual preformance metrics, goes against everything the community has claimed to want, as a whole, in earlier tournaments (See: NASL qualification, any invitational tournaments) | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
1. oGs vs ST in first round? 2. No IM? | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
On May 10 2011 16:53 Neurosis wrote: No Nestea or MVP = lol. IM is still the best sc2 team, they should be in the GSTL no matter what imo. And no Losira... | ||
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densha
United States797 Posts
On May 10 2011 16:52 Sarmis wrote: I don't recall anyone complaining about the system before. If Liquid had gotten 8th, but IM had gotten 9th, and then GOM changed the rules to exclude Liquid because it was "ridiculous that IM wasn't in", would that be fair? Except here everyone seems OK with it because we aren't familiar with MVP (the team). The method they use to choose teams for the GSTL has been well known, publicized, and completely transparent. To change it simply because people aren't happy with the results of that method - on the THIRD iteration of the team league - would be incredibly unfair to MVP. And to honestly expect GOM to change their method of team picking - a transparent method based on actual preformance metrics, goes against everything the community has claimed to want, as a whole, in earlier tournaments (See: NASL qualification, any invitational tournaments) Just because it's transparent doesn't mean it's good. I think no one really cared before because previously the system was almost a formality - the top teams were included along with some underdogs. However, when the point system says Prime, Zenex, and fOu are more qualified to perform in a team league over IM, then the system itself is flawed and should be changed. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
Hey guys, one guy on my team can all-kill your team. Oh, look, you're in and we're not. Ridiculous. Fuck the rules, that's just a ridiculously flawed system. Two time finalists and one-time champions of a tournament that don't get to be in the tournament... just.... wow. | ||
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coolcor
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
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Butterz
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