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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 10 2011 07:00 GMT
#141
Even though IM is not in it GOMTV cant do anything about it. rules or rules and it would be stupid to change it just to favor one team over another.
Jaedong :3
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
May 10 2011 07:04 GMT
#142
On May 10 2011 15:34 Lobo2me wrote:
You could start with 1,0 points for Code A RO32, and increasing it by 0,1 points for each extra round (not counting up/down, that would be for next season's points). Then you'd get a scale that went from 1,0 to 2,1 points depending on where you placed.

Using this scale, this would be the standings:
oGs 14.9 points
TSL 10.6 points
Startale/SlayerS 9.5 points
Prime 9.4 points
MvP 8.3 points
Zenex/IM 6.4 points
fOu 5.9 points
NSHoseo 3.7 points
Liquid 3.2 points
FOX 1.6 points
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Duoma
Profile Joined March 2011
United States396 Posts
May 10 2011 07:04 GMT
#143
THAT is one messed up formula.

Why exactly is past GSTL performance not considered? Just seems incredibly foolish to have a formula for inclusion which excludes IM but includes ZeNex and fOu.....

Really hope Gom comes to their senses with this, from a business perspective AND a spectator perspective this severely weakens the league.

(that being said I will probably watch no matter what....)
"I have stared a horse in the eyes.... there is only black... only darkness..."
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
May 10 2011 07:06 GMT
#144
MVP just CAME OUT NOWHERE and invaded the GSL. Very impressed.
Someone call down the Thunder?
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
May 10 2011 07:07 GMT
#145
man i wish so badly they would create a team league
worldchrisis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States45 Posts
May 10 2011 07:08 GMT
#146
I understand the system they use to determine team rankings, however I think it's really dumb for them to not wait until after the up and down matches to calculate the rankings. IM is probably going to pass fOu because of IMMVP getting back into Code S.
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
May 10 2011 07:10 GMT
#147
The thing is about just massing players into code A.

Should any IM team member face fOu in the Super Tournament, they should not drop a single game. And do some firebathero ceremony afterwards.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 07:11:27
May 10 2011 07:11 GMT
#148
We need proleague like in SC1 to fit all good teams >_>
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Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 07:21:46
May 10 2011 07:11 GMT
#149
IM is by far my favorite team, and really the only team that I root for completely in the GSTL. When you look back and see that IM WON the first GSTL, and got SECOND in the GSTL, its pretty clear that IM is the best team at the moment. (Artosis also seems to think this). It seems absurd that IM is not included, especially since IMVP is basically a lock to get back into code S. It would have been far better since we are in the middle of the up and downs to let them finish before deciding the teams. Very very disappointing.

Also, TEAMS like mvp, have many players in code A but only 1 player in code S. (Genius If I remember), however a team like IM has 2 players who have won championships, and possibly soon to be multiple championships. The quanitity of players in the GSL is far less important to me than the quality of the players, ESPECIALLY concerning the quality of the games shown in the GSTL. Games like the MVP vs MMA game come to mind.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 10 2011 07:12 GMT
#150
the rules should be flexible enough that all the best teams get in, and if the best team isn't getting in, then there's something wrong with the rules, not the other way around
Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
May 10 2011 07:13 GMT
#151
I could care less if IM is in it or not, besides nestea none of their players really entertain me, yes they are good but the play is so bland. Plus losira's infestor use up till now has been painful to watch at best >.>. People need to realize that there was a predetermined method of choosing the top 8 teams and no matter what, gstl will still be entertaining.
Artosis: "I don't trust hyenas."
worldchrisis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States45 Posts
May 10 2011 07:13 GMT
#152
Also, why do they use a random drawing to determine matchups. They've already come up with a way of ranking the teams, why not use the standard tournament format of

1 vs 8---------\
-------------
4 vs 5---------/

3 vs 6--------\
--------------
2 vs 7--------/
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 07:16:36
May 10 2011 07:15 GMT
#153
Of course this is like a big joke.

IM has achieved 1st and 2nd place in the ONLY TWO teamleagues so far, yet they aren't allowed to compete. One of their players is now in the Code S grand finals, and they have had multiple champions, including winning the World Championship.

I am extremely disappointed in GOM. I just find it hilarious we get to watch Zenex, but not IM. Perfect example of retarded non-nonsensical rules
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
May 10 2011 07:16 GMT
#154
Clearly the only fair solution would be to include IM and then like Jinro, Haypro and Huk beast their way to the top as a 3 man team + Mercenary players.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 07:21:36
May 10 2011 07:18 GMT
#155
On May 10 2011 16:08 worldchrisis wrote:
I understand the system they use to determine team rankings, however I think it's really dumb for them to not wait until after the up and down matches to calculate the rankings. IM is probably going to pass fOu because of IMMVP getting back into Code S.


If they waited for up and downs then they'd have to wait for Code A qualifiers as well which isn't happening for another month at least. So then there would be no team league until after the super tourney. They've always done calculations before up and downs. They're not gonna change it just for 1 team. It'd be stupid.

GOM shouldn't be getting hate here. Rules are rules and it's IM's fault they're not in it. If they want to change the rules in the future(and in my opinion they should), then that's something they have to decide for the future. Not for right now.

Hate on the point system if you want, but its been there since GSTL started.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
May 10 2011 07:20 GMT
#156
I await the day GSL does a fat team league where every team plays each other once to determine playoffs. That would be so sick
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
May 10 2011 07:21 GMT
#157
On May 10 2011 16:18 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 16:08 worldchrisis wrote:
I understand the system they use to determine team rankings, however I think it's really dumb for them to not wait until after the up and down matches to calculate the rankings. IM is probably going to pass fOu because of IMMVP getting back into Code S.


If they waited for up and downs then they'd have to wait for Code A qualifiers as well which isn't happening for another month at least. So then there would be no team league until after the super tourney. They've always done calculations before up and downs. They're not gonna change it just for 1 team. It'd be stupid.

GOM shouldn't be getting hate here. Rules are rules and it's IM's fault they're not in it. If they want to change the rules in the future(and in my opinion they should), then that's something they have to decide for the future. Not for right now.

But the rules are DUMB. Just because a rule is a rule, doesn't mean it's right.

IM has nearly won both Team leagues. Performance-wise (the only thing that should matter in a tournament) they are the best. They have proven it. No reason to not allow them to compete. None at all.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
May 10 2011 07:21 GMT
#158
No IM is really a tragedy...NesTea is the #1 player in the world as far as I'm concerned, that's like having either Hwaseung or KT not in the running for a proleague finals...
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Bullet
Profile Joined June 2010
United States280 Posts
May 10 2011 07:22 GMT
#159
lol they should remove fou. Like all of their players dropped out of Code A. =[ sigh...hopefully MVP can put on a good show. They have loads of talent on their team.
Another good storyline is ogs vs startale in ro8. hope ogs can finally have a deep run aka end up in the finals. ;]
slayers fighting!!!
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
May 10 2011 07:24 GMT
#160
On May 10 2011 16:21 ihavetofartosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 16:18 Kiyo. wrote:
On May 10 2011 16:08 worldchrisis wrote:
I understand the system they use to determine team rankings, however I think it's really dumb for them to not wait until after the up and down matches to calculate the rankings. IM is probably going to pass fOu because of IMMVP getting back into Code S.


If they waited for up and downs then they'd have to wait for Code A qualifiers as well which isn't happening for another month at least. So then there would be no team league until after the super tourney. They've always done calculations before up and downs. They're not gonna change it just for 1 team. It'd be stupid.

GOM shouldn't be getting hate here. Rules are rules and it's IM's fault they're not in it. If they want to change the rules in the future(and in my opinion they should), then that's something they have to decide for the future. Not for right now.

But the rules are DUMB. Just because a rule is a rule, doesn't mean it's right.

IM has nearly won both Team leagues. Performance-wise (the only thing that should matter in a tournament) they are the best. They have proven it. No reason to not allow them to compete. None at all.


No reason? What about the rules. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean you get to decide whats right and wrong. Discuss changes to the point system for the future if you want, but this has already been decided. It was decided a while ago and theres no point bitching about it now. The point system has been available for ages now. We figured out that IM wouldn't be in the team league a month ago when the qualifiers happened. Now because the brackets are released people are finally realizing and qq'ing.
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