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uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
May 10 2011 06:29 GMT
#121
Sucks that IM will not be participating even though they are arguably much stronger then teams like fOu and Zenex. But rules are rules, hopefully IM will get more players in GSL so they can qualify next time.
~
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
May 10 2011 06:30 GMT
#122
Can't really blame GOM, but maybe they could've waited for up/down to finish and go based on that?
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 10 2011 06:31 GMT
#123
Yeah not really understanding the hate for GOMtv for this. They made their qualification process extremely clear. The pressure was on IM to either perform with the players they have (Yonghwa? Seed? Yoda?) or recruit some new players that are Code A/Code S material.

You can blame the team itself for their absence, not GOM. 2-3 players can't completely carry a team, they need more of a presence.
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
May 10 2011 06:33 GMT
#124
they should have rotated the teams in a similar fashion as code A/Code S, the lower placing teams from the previous team league get their overall points tallied in this fashion with other teams( in this case MVP) and if the new up and coming team has more points then substitute the team with the least points out.

As it is the system kinda sucks, you don't neccesarily need to have your whole team in code S to be an outstanding team in the team league, obviously.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
May 10 2011 06:34 GMT
#125
On May 10 2011 15:22 proxY_ wrote:
I understand that they wanted to use an objective metric when they were inviting teams but excluding IM, the team that Tastosis has constantly referenced as the best and the team that has one two time champion and very likely another soon to be two time champion is a little ridiculous particularly when they've gotten 1st and 2nd in the last two team leagues. From a fan perspective too, the fans want to see MVP, Nestea, and Losira play a helluva lot more than anyone on fou.

That's true. But what if MVP has lost his first round in Code A against Lure. Should GOM do something special to keep MVP in the tournament, because he's clearly the better player and more popular than Lure?

No, that would be completely unfair. GSL isn't a popularity contest. I can see them changing the qualification a bit though, so that it's not calculated until normal GSL is done. You could start with 1,0 points for Code A RO32, and increasing it by 0,1 points for each extra round (not counting up/down, that would be for next season's points). Then you'd get a scale that went from 1,0 to 2,1 points depending on where you placed.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
homer001
Profile Joined October 2010
493 Posts
May 10 2011 06:34 GMT
#126
keep the rules as it is this season
but they need to change it next team league
with a better point system
i mean mvp and nestea are former champions and arguably the best terran and zerg atm
GameTime
Profile Joined May 2010
United States222 Posts
May 10 2011 06:36 GMT
#127
I never knew that there were 8 oGs code S players, that's really impressive and I would put them as favorites to win this time.
Only the winner deserves to win.
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
May 10 2011 06:39 GMT
#128
I'm excited to see how MVP will do.

IM really needs to get more people into the GSL, where are all their players?
1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
May 10 2011 06:41 GMT
#129
its a shame we will never see Liquid in this competition, specialy now :s
At the top of the game, we play by diferent rules.
stevarius
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1394 Posts
May 10 2011 06:41 GMT
#130
On May 10 2011 15:30 Adebisi wrote:
Can't really blame GOM, but maybe they could've waited for up/down to finish and go based on that?


This.

Why the hell would you not?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Torumfroll
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
290 Posts
May 10 2011 06:42 GMT
#131
I'm a bit sad that IM were excluded from the league since they are on of my favorite teams and I'd rather have seen Zenex or fOu get excluded. MVP is an interesting up and coming team though with some great players, and ceremonies!
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
May 10 2011 06:42 GMT
#132
while it's good that the gsl is sticking to their guns, the system in which they choose teams is clearly flawed.

a team that got first and second in the previous gstl should have automatic seeding while the lesser teams are chosen through points
Gracksaurusrex
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom171 Posts
May 10 2011 06:43 GMT
#133
I recon that TSL vs fOu will be the match of the tournament
TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
May 10 2011 06:50 GMT
#134
NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo...

IM isn't participating ((

"There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things that you love." - Day[9]
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
May 10 2011 06:53 GMT
#135
While it's shocking and disappointing to not be able to see the most successful GSTL team to date, remember that the team leagues give the opportunity for lesser known players to showcase their talent. I'm expecting more Cinderella stories out of this GSTL and I can see the established stars on the GSL anyway.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
May 10 2011 06:53 GMT
#136
Kinda miffed that IM isn't participating

I'll still be watching though

Rootin' for oGs!!!
TL+ Member
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
May 10 2011 06:53 GMT
#137
Zenex there but not IM, surely a sick joke.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#138
On May 10 2011 15:30 Adebisi wrote:
Can't really blame GOM, but maybe they could've waited for up/down to finish and go based on that?

Then IM wouldn't play in GSTL last month.
Highlight
Profile Joined April 2011
United States75 Posts
May 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#139
it puzzles me when people do stupid stuff just because someone tells them to or because they want to follow a rule to the letter, even when the correct answer and method lies right before their eyes. do we really have to tell these folks that they will fail if IM is not included? Do they really not understand? IM has two champions, they won the first GSTL, and get 2nd in the 2nd GSTL...but they excluded the team? im sorry but in this case you gotta screw the points and allow the team in. period.
Fingulfin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States110 Posts
May 10 2011 07:00 GMT
#140
Very dismayed to see that IM is not in the tourny... Won't be buying a season ticket in protest. I don't care that they don't have enough Code whatever players, they are quite obviously one of the best Starcraft 2 teams out there and excluding them is just plain silly.
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