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Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
May 10 2011 06:15 GMT
#101
I don't have a problem at all with this. The GSL is about the most open system possible and this is just yet another upset, albeit slightly different. I love that a top team like IM isn't 'protected' in any way if they aren't putting up results in the 1v1 league.

It'll be a shame because they'll invariably change it for next teamleague after the backlash.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
May 10 2011 06:17 GMT
#102
going to be a ST vs SlayerS final
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Jacuzzi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 06:18:35
May 10 2011 06:18 GMT
#103
I'm surprised GOM doesn't just automatically qualify the last two season's finalists. o.O

Also, if Nestea wins code S would that give them enough points to top fOu? (No pressure on Nestea if it does XD)
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
May 10 2011 06:20 GMT
#104
On May 10 2011 15:18 Jacuzzi wrote:
I'm surprised GOM doesn't just automatically qualify the last two season's finalists. o.O

Also, if Nestea wins code S would that give them enough points to top MVP? (No pressure on Nestea if it does XD)

No, the points are given at the start of the season, meaning if a team has 16 people in Code A that all get knocked out first round, they'll have 16 points for the teamleague.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
May 10 2011 06:20 GMT
#105
Fou lost all their code A players they only have SC left in code S. So there is little chance they'll make it into the next one and IM can come back then.
DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 06:21:57
May 10 2011 06:21 GMT
#106
On May 10 2011 15:18 Jacuzzi wrote:
I'm surprised GOM doesn't just automatically qualify the last two season's finalists. o.O

Also, if Nestea wins code S would that give them enough points to top fOu? (No pressure on Nestea if it does XD)

How deep players go in the tournaments has no bearing on the qualification, only the amount of players in the tournaments does.

EDIT: GSL tournaments, of course.
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proxY_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 06:27:19
May 10 2011 06:22 GMT
#107
I understand that they wanted to use an objective metric when they were inviting teams but excluding IM, the team that Tastosis has constantly referenced as the best and the team that has one two time champion and very likely another soon to be two time champion is a little ridiculous particularly when they've gotten 1st and 2nd in the last two team leagues. From a fan perspective too, the fans want to see MVP, Nestea, and Losira play a helluva lot more than anyone on fou or MVP for that matter.

I need to understand more about how their metric worked, does it only factor current code s and a players? I think having a formula where you take the summation of each team's individual players gom points makes more sense. MVP and Nestea are both very close to the top of that. The team league in the past has also been a lot of showcasing all of these unknown players and giving them a platform to begin to prove themselves. How awesome was it to see Min (a player that no one really knew at that point) absolutely demolish Inca. Or see a player like Bomber debut. Now it seems like it's stacked in favor of players that we already know from the gsl and I find that boring honestly.
Jacuzzi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States528 Posts
May 10 2011 06:23 GMT
#108
On May 10 2011 15:21 DigitalisDestructi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 15:18 Jacuzzi wrote:
I'm surprised GOM doesn't just automatically qualify the last two season's finalists. o.O

Also, if Nestea wins code S would that give them enough points to top fOu? (No pressure on Nestea if it does XD)

How deep players go in the tournaments has no bearing on the qualification, only the amount of players in the tournaments does.

EDIT: GSL tournaments, of course.


Oh never mind then.

It sucks for IM but I'm interested to see who will make the finals since they won't be there to dominate once again.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 10 2011 06:25 GMT
#109
Nestea, MVP, Losira..... It's a crime that we won't be seeing them.
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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
May 10 2011 06:25 GMT
#110
Aww..sucks that IM isnt in, but those are the rules I guess. I didnt know that TL was looked at as a separate team, thought they were included with ogs or were simply did not participate.
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
May 10 2011 06:25 GMT
#111
rules are rules. we all know what happened at nasl recently and the backlash they faced. it is unfortunate that im didnt make it. but it is a team league after all. blame the other players other than the likes of mvp, nestea and losira for not stepping up.
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TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
May 10 2011 06:25 GMT
#112
No NesTea in GSTL makes me sad.

On the positive side of things. MVP is in and we can expect some crazy ceremonies if they win. Bothe MVPKeen and MVPGenius have had some hilarious ceremonies.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 10 2011 06:26 GMT
#113
Gonna say this now... If GOMTV would make like a bigger summer team league and have some foreign teams, I'm sure there will be some that would go!

I would love to see Fnatic compete against the Korean teams in a GSTL. It'd be awesome if Fnatic, Dignitas, Liquid, and Mouz/EG would send 4-5 players and have a big team thing against Koreans!
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Hunted
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia337 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-10 06:27:59
May 10 2011 06:27 GMT
#114
They should just invite 6 foreign teams and have all 10 full korean teams participate. Might have to up the prize money a bit though too make it worth it for the foreign teams.

edit: sniped by Xeris t_t
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
May 10 2011 06:27 GMT
#115
It's too bad that we won't be seeing IM, but it's not GOMs fault that IM players have failed to make it in.. ya gotta respect an unbiased metric.
For Aiur???
DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
May 10 2011 06:27 GMT
#116
On May 10 2011 15:22 proxY_ wrote:
I understand that they wanted to use an objective metric when they were inviting teams but excluding IM, the team that Tastosis has constantly referenced as the best and the team that has one two time champion and very likely another soon to be two time champion is a little ridiculous particularly when they've gotten 1st and 2nd in the last two team leagues. From a fan perspective too, the fans want to see MVP, Nestea, and Losira play a helluva lot more than anyone on fou.

Can't deny that, good sir. Perhaps GOM will factor in tournament results for the next GSTL.
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namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
May 10 2011 06:28 GMT
#117
weird decision..
You know what I'm talking about
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
May 10 2011 06:28 GMT
#118
On May 10 2011 15:17 udgnim wrote:
going to be a ST vs SlayerS final


this guy knows whats up!
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 10 2011 06:28 GMT
#119
Slayers have an easy path to the finals. Can't wait for Slayers vs ST or OGS, it will be amazing!
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
May 10 2011 06:29 GMT
#120
On May 10 2011 14:34 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 14:16 ReachTheSky wrote:
On May 10 2011 14:06 Boblhead wrote:
whats the point in not letting IM join? isnt this supposed to support esports and have the "TOP" teams play?


Top teams get decided by results. Surely you can't be considered a top team if you don't have the current results to back it up. The other teams that are ahead of IM have proven, by showing results, that they are indeed a top team. I do agree that IM is a very good team, but if they aren't proving it consistantly then where is the credibility?


Would you really consider teams like Zenex and fou to be better than IM? Both have 5 players in the GSL, while IM has 4, just 1 less. Yet IM players have consistently performed better.


I definitely consider IM one of the top teams. But when it comes to qualifying for the format, they fall short. These other teams have put up the results so they've earn/qualified their stay. Its just that IM hasn't earned enough for this format. Its not like i disagree with you. I do think IM is probably a top 3 team. But again, its the format. Who has the most points.
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