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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 07 2011 01:28 GMT
#41
On May 07 2011 10:05 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 10:01 dronescout wrote:
Is it just me or is MC very cocky. In this interview he said he thinks he is the best PvP'er and that he will stomp MVP and MarineKing and also said that I doesn't think Naniwa will beat him in PvP. Also if you remember his interview right before his game with Ciara in TSL he said something about him being a bad player and stood no chance. I find this a tad funny.


yeah dude for sure
MC is hilariously and unreasonably cocky


I think he has plenty of reason
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
May 07 2011 01:29 GMT
#42
On May 07 2011 09:59 amarillo wrote:
The title comes directly from the translated text the translator, who I'm told speaks fluent Korean and knows MC personally, gave to me. There are so many other interesting comments made by MC in this interview, in my opinion, that the problem isn't the title of the post.

Rather it's a problem that so many people seem to want to discuss the title rather than watch the interview and discuss the content of the interview. It's equivalent to someone debating the title of a book at a reading group rather than actually reading the book.



the thing is korean to english translations are never perfect, so in english things that sound like aggressive (MVP has been dodging me) is actually relatively kinda nonchalant passive words in korean. He really is saying something more along the lines of "we have always been across from eachother/not meeting eachother in brackets so its strange"
ptell
Profile Joined October 2009
United States103 Posts
May 07 2011 01:30 GMT
#43
the lighting in the video can be better. should not film with a bright background
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
May 07 2011 01:32 GMT
#44
the fun part is, that although he may be very cocky but he also is mostly right :p this guy really has such a deep understanding of the game, his own skill, and the skill of other players. always fun to watch.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 07 2011 01:38 GMT
#45
Woud love to see him play zerg because I think he's talking out of his ass
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Tonem
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia91 Posts
May 07 2011 01:40 GMT
#46
On May 07 2011 10:29 Candide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 09:59 amarillo wrote:
The title comes directly from the translated text the translator, who I'm told speaks fluent Korean and knows MC personally, gave to me. There are so many other interesting comments made by MC in this interview, in my opinion, that the problem isn't the title of the post.

Rather it's a problem that so many people seem to want to discuss the title rather than watch the interview and discuss the content of the interview. It's equivalent to someone debating the title of a book at a reading group rather than actually reading the book.



the thing is korean to english translations are never perfect, so in english things that sound like aggressive (MVP has been dodging me) is actually relatively kinda nonchalant passive words in korean. He really is saying something more along the lines of "we have always been across from eachother/not meeting eachother in brackets so its strange"


Yeah just because a translator can speak fluent korean doesn't necessarily mean they can translate everything perfectly into the english counterpart.

But enough of that, thanks for the interview! I really enjoy seeing what different koreans have to say
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 07 2011 01:42 GMT
#47
On May 07 2011 10:27 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
wish he went into more detail about why he thinks z is imba. saying that he plays z all the time and wins vs p doesnt really cut it imo.


yeah he didn't give any reasons like the OP suggested :/.
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TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
May 07 2011 01:45 GMT
#48
Haha was thinking about it and I guess it goes with being rank 1 in the world. You got to be cocky to mantain yourself as king. Soon as you start thinking you're not the best, you lose. Nice interview. Not very informative, but a good laugh.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 07 2011 01:46 GMT
#49
On May 07 2011 09:50 Dommk wrote:
Getting motion sickness watching this video


Yeah, poor camera operator with Parkinson's =/
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
May 07 2011 01:47 GMT
#50
Yeah. I didn't get anything from this interview. The MVP comment was intended differently than you first think when you read the OP, the Z comment is substantiated with.. nothing, European Ts are good and micro is important. Meh. Can't help but feel it's a little too cut up, 2 parts would probably have offered just that more actual content, but it could just be me.

Sneaky White-Ra though, that made me chuckle admittedly.
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rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
May 07 2011 01:51 GMT
#51
MC is kind of like idra in that he speaks his mind and doesnt sugarcoat stuff which is kind of funny because idra has said protoss is imba and now mc says zerg imba xD
Hipster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States57 Posts
May 07 2011 02:01 GMT
#52
On May 07 2011 10:51 rickybobby wrote:
MC is kind of like idra in that he speaks his mind and doesnt sugarcoat stuff which is kind of funny because idra has said protoss is imba and now mc says zerg imba xD


yeah, but idra expands on his opinions, i hope MC does the same; real interested in why he thinks zerg is OP.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 07 2011 02:27 GMT
#53
On May 07 2011 11:01 Hipster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 10:51 rickybobby wrote:
MC is kind of like idra in that he speaks his mind and doesnt sugarcoat stuff which is kind of funny because idra has said protoss is imba and now mc says zerg imba xD


yeah, but idra expands on his opinions, i hope MC does the same; real interested in why he thinks zerg is OP.


I got the impression he is probably making fun of all the QQ. He even kinda smirked when he said that, dunno he may have good reasons though and I am just being stupid.
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
May 07 2011 02:37 GMT
#54
On May 07 2011 10:28 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 10:05 travis wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:01 dronescout wrote:
Is it just me or is MC very cocky. In this interview he said he thinks he is the best PvP'er and that he will stomp MVP and MarineKing and also said that I doesn't think Naniwa will beat him in PvP. Also if you remember his interview right before his game with Ciara in TSL he said something about him being a bad player and stood no chance. I find this a tad funny.


yeah dude for sure
MC is hilariously and unreasonably cocky


I think he has plenty of reason


No he doesn't. He'd certainly good, but he's not really the type of player that's going to stand the test of time (as we've started to see). He has awesome micro and in the early stages of the development of SC2, he did quite well because no one knew any optimal strategies. As time goes on and the games becomes more refined, his macro/refinement/decision making will pull him down while more talanted mechanical players will rise to the top. Also, people are falling for protoss all-ins less and less, which was a big part of his success.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
May 07 2011 02:38 GMT
#55
To be fair, when all protoss were whining ( after 0 protoss in top 4 of first 2 GSL), and protoss were dying to range 4 roaches and Terran timing pushes, MC said that Protoss were actually very strong and they are failing because they haven't discovered the correct response.

MC also said that obviously he's not gonna tell the world what it is because it is to his advantage that other people have not caught on and as a progamer, he'll hide what he knows for as long as possible.

Then of course MC proved his point and went on a tear to win gsl 3 beating Terrans left and right. Soon after, we see Protoss take over Pvt and PvZ just like MC had predicted.

So, racial bias aside, MC has been known to make statements like this and back it up.
Pabi
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany126 Posts
May 07 2011 02:40 GMT
#56
Thanks for shareing, great interview!!
SweetAs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
New Zealand290 Posts
May 07 2011 02:44 GMT
#57
Not going to lie, MVP would rofl stomp MC
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 07 2011 02:47 GMT
#58
is part3 of the interview up? i cannot seem to find it.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 07 2011 03:15 GMT
#59
On May 07 2011 11:44 SweetAs wrote:
Not going to lie, MVP would rofl stomp MC


MVP's worse MU is TvP, it's why he is in Code A

MC's worst is PvT
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 07 2011 03:20 GMT
#60
On May 07 2011 11:37 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 10:28 GreEny K wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:05 travis wrote:
On May 07 2011 10:01 dronescout wrote:
Is it just me or is MC very cocky. In this interview he said he thinks he is the best PvP'er and that he will stomp MVP and MarineKing and also said that I doesn't think Naniwa will beat him in PvP. Also if you remember his interview right before his game with Ciara in TSL he said something about him being a bad player and stood no chance. I find this a tad funny.


yeah dude for sure
MC is hilariously and unreasonably cocky


I think he has plenty of reason


No he doesn't. He'd certainly good, but he's not really the type of player that's going to stand the test of time (as we've started to see). He has awesome micro and in the early stages of the development of SC2, he did quite well because no one knew any optimal strategies. As time goes on and the games becomes more refined, his macro/refinement/decision making will pull him down while more talanted mechanical players will rise to the top. Also, people are falling for protoss all-ins less and less, which was a big part of his success.

what are you basing this off of? at the same time he started "losing" he won copenhagen easily with some of the best euro players in the world and I think everyone would agree that after the thorzain series MC has some of the best macro/late game army control of any protoss
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