EPTMC: "MVP is kinda dodging me" - Page 6
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Eyx
England165 Posts
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Rylaji
Sweden580 Posts
MC vs Naniwa would be soooooo awesome. Also fun to hear he wanted to meet Naniwa IRL, seems very friendly :D | ||
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Omega.763
France34 Posts
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NET
United States703 Posts
Hell, being in a conversation with both White-Ra and MC would be the shit. On a side note, if anyone happens to know or hear WR talk about what MC said, please do tell. | ||
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Kokosaft
Germany172 Posts
(expect the microing in pvp there were no arguments at all iirc) | ||
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zende
Sweden234 Posts
change it before people start hating on MC ~~~~ | ||
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
On May 08 2011 02:37 Eyx wrote: Well MC saying ZvP favours the zerg isnt too far from other top korean plays thoughts, nestea says he is very confident that he can beat any protoss and losira has expressed a similar view. When did they say this? Was this recent? Last I heard, Idra-fanboys were proclaiming that all Korean Zergs were saying that Protoss is OP, so I am assuming this must be after the patch change. Do you have an interview you could link me to? Also, hilarious interview. MC vs Naniwa, I hope it happens as soon as possible. Maybe Dreamhack Summer. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 08 2011 15:44 flowSthead wrote: When did they say this? Was this recent? Last I heard, Idra-fanboys were proclaiming that all Korean Zergs were saying that Protoss is OP, so I am assuming this must be after the patch change. Do you have an interview you could link me to? Also, hilarious interview. MC vs Naniwa, I hope it happens as soon as possible. Maybe Dreamhack Summer. NesTea said he is having success playing against the protoss on his own team, and people have been spamming it all over the place as him saying "nestea said protoss easy now" I'll believe it in a month. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On May 08 2011 15:44 flowSthead wrote: When did they say this? Was this recent? Last I heard, Idra-fanboys were proclaiming that all Korean Zergs were saying that Protoss is OP, so I am assuming this must be after the patch change. Do you have an interview you could link me to? Also, hilarious interview. MC vs Naniwa, I hope it happens as soon as possible. Maybe Dreamhack Summer. Yes pretty recent. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220385 GSL spoiler + Show Spoiler + nestea says that despite him whining, actually he has 90 percent win rate over protoss so he feels confident in final. Losira also said similar thing in the past i think and considering they are both zergs from the same team, they probably share it with each other. And the patch has not hit yet unless you are talking about infestor patch which has hit for quite a while. | ||
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nixSplice
United States3 Posts
On May 07 2011 11:37 Arisen wrote: No he doesn't. He'd certainly good, but he's not really the type of player that's going to stand the test of time (as we've started to see). He has awesome micro and in the early stages of the development of SC2, he did quite well because no one knew any optimal strategies. As time goes on and the games becomes more refined, his macro/refinement/decision making will pull him down while more talanted mechanical players will rise to the top. Also, people are falling for protoss all-ins less and less, which was a big part of his success. So many people say this. He will evolve as well. | ||
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
On May 08 2011 15:52 dtz wrote: Yes pretty recent. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220385 GSL spoiler + Show Spoiler + nestea says that despite him whining, actually he has 90 percent win rate over protoss so he feels confident in final. Losira also said similar thing in the past i think and considering they are both zergs from the same team, they probably share it with each other. And the patch has not hit yet unless you are talking about infestor patch which has hit for quite a while. Which one, all of them I saw have Nestea saying that he feels he has to be lucky and the Zerg race is harder than the other races? And yeah, I meant patch 1.3 which came out in late March I believe, so its only been a little more than a month. I would consider that fairly recent, but I could entertain an argument its been a while. Anyways, yeah I couldn't find an interview with Nestea saying he felt confident. | ||
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reptile
United States210 Posts
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On May 08 2011 15:44 flowSthead wrote: When did they say this? Was this recent? Last I heard, Idra-fanboys were proclaiming that all Korean Zergs were saying that Protoss is OP, so I am assuming this must be after the patch change. Do you have an interview you could link me to? Also, hilarious interview. MC vs Naniwa, I hope it happens as soon as possible. Maybe Dreamhack Summer. + Show Spoiler + From semifinal interview http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220385 - You will be facing a protoss in the finals. I think Inca is a really good player. I know I complained a lot previously about ZvP matchups when I faced Anypro, but in practice I was win rate against them were around 90%, so I have some confidence in the matchup. It's bullshit. He didn't say that at all. 'Confidence in the matchup' and winning in practice does not mean 'can beat any protoss'. Not even remotely. The complaining Nestea's referring to in the Ro8 interview was him saying playing zerg is really difficult and you need to get lucky in order to win, LOL. It's not like he'd flip-flop that opinion completely in a matter of days. | ||
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
On May 08 2011 16:09 vrok wrote: + Show Spoiler + From semifinal interview: - You will be facing a protoss in the finals. I think Inca is a really good player. I know I complained a lot previously about ZvP matchups when I faced Anypro, but in practice I was win rate against them were around 90%, so I have some confidence in the matchup. It's bullshit. He didn't say that at all. 'Confidence in the matchup' and winning in practice does not mean 'can beat any protoss'. Not even remotely. The complaining Nestea's referring to in the Ro8 interview was him saying playing zerg is really difficult and you need to get lucky in order to win, LOL. It's not like he'd flip-flop that opinion completely in a matter of days. Wow, I totally missed the round of 4 interviews and went straight for the old interviews. Missed them by a hair, thanks. Anyways, yeah I see what people mean now. | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
On May 07 2011 09:59 amarillo wrote: The title comes directly from the translated text the translator, who I'm told speaks fluent Korean and knows MC personally, gave to me. There are so many other interesting comments made by MC in this interview, in my opinion, that the problem isn't the title of the post. stopped reading there. i didn't read the interview either, but seems like OP is a MC-hater or just a troll. | ||
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xbankx
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weiliem
2071 Posts
On May 08 2011 16:08 TRG wrote: What a joke.. MC's been in decline since the recent win of the GSL. He mocked the balance issues to an extreme on purpose, and then has the nerve to say Zerg is imba. I'd love to see MC prove that he can play Zerg on an equal level with a professional Protoss. That being said, there's plenty of Zerg players who've shown how ridiculously easy it is to be Protoss and just simply spam F to win. Not impressed. And he really needs to take a step back with his cockiness, he doesn't seem anywhere near as good as he was once perceived. I look forward to seeing him lose more. Maybe he should try switch race to Zerg for 1 GSL or something to prove himself, but i believe he will get stomped pretty hard and drop to code A immediately if he does that.... | ||
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-eXalt
United States462 Posts
 . That's from my mid masters exp.Reason I'm saying this is obv because of the statement he's making that some might take out of context. (zerg is imba).. moreover zerg lategame mechanics are imba (larvae + quick saturation + high hp cheap unit) | ||
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Tekkerz
United Kingdom216 Posts
On May 08 2011 16:58 Zythian wrote: Right now it's insanely hard to beat a zerg once he gets an economy (full saturation on 3-4 bases). And with new builds like spanishiwa's build and zerg figuring out timings it's insanely hard to STOP them from spamming all those drones and getting all the hatches for production you can't match even with 14 gateways. I guess what I'm trying to say is, in the end game when zerg has basically infinite roach production, brood lords, and infestors, you can't win . That's from my mid masters exp.Reason I'm saying this is obv because of the statement he's making that some might take out of context. (zerg is imba).. moreover zerg lategame mechanics are imba (larvae + quick saturation + high hp cheap unit) Typical response because you are bad at late game play. Good players like MVP have no problem vs zerg in a late game. Learn to play late game, then talk about 'imba'. | ||
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