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On October 25 2012 04:22 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 04:11 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
i dont even know why people are upset. that shit was hilarious. only thing to be upset about is incontrols behaviour. You and the rest of the destiny cult are so absurd it defies all logic. Of all the things you are complaining about , you think a fucking high five after telling him to stfu is something to get upset about?! Explain yourself, for my personal amusement.
context is everything..idra tells destiny "go back to LoL" while incontrol gives him a high five later on. Why not be pissed off at both of them for the immature behavior? It would be like a kid punchs someone then the kids friends gives him a high five..its immature, and you are going to hate both of them if you are the one punched.
of course not as serious, but still you should get my point. The way wheat/destiny/idra/incontrol acted was just ridiculous when it should have just been a serious discussion.
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On October 25 2012 05:08 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:05 Immaterial wrote:On October 25 2012 04:59 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:57 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:54 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:48 Leru wrote:On October 25 2012 04:45 Leth0 wrote:
The poop joke , that demonstrated where destiny gets his facts from, was the funniest thing on the show. Then destiny comes on and has a meltdown and it just became depressing to listen to someone so clueless trying to have a debate with a group of people that actually have an idea of wtf they are talking about. If a poop joke gets to prove some facts for you, then I think you should visit a public restroom for some interesting stuff, That's not what I said at all. The poop joke, was demonstrating where destiny gets his facts from. IE he was pulling numbers from his ass. When you say something like 90% of blah blah blah, with no facts to back you up, you are pulling it out from your ass. Does that explain it well enough? Incontrol made up numbers in that episode. too. But, seeing as he is your god and he can do no wrong, you will ignore it and flame me for liking Destiny even though I gave no indication that I do. When? I'm watching right now and he hasn't given any statement about numbers so far, so enlighten me please. He said 90% of casuals who played BW didn't buy the game. Also, just to be fair, I'm pretty sure wheat did in fact use the term "nostalgia fag" towards destiny. Truly doesn't matter at all though lol. Anyone who has lost their respect for iNc/wheat/Destiny/etc over this little argument needs to fucking grow a pair. This community seems hellbent on turning this "SC2 IZ DYING" shit into a self-fulfilling prophecy. No, destiny says and i quote (This is how quotes are used people for future reference). When talking about bw customs Destiny "I'm not a nostalgia fag " Wheat "you are though" Destiny brought up the term himself, how surprising.
Oh ok fair enough. Didn't bother me either way 
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On October 25 2012 05:04 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 04:22 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:11 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
i dont even know why people are upset. that shit was hilarious. only thing to be upset about is incontrols behaviour. You and the rest of the destiny cult are so absurd it defies all logic. Of all the things you are complaining about , you think a fucking high five after telling him to stfu is something to get upset about?! Explain yourself, for my personal amusement. reddit does a fine job of that.
Someone who does not really care about SC2 or the people involved, who’s only reason to be involved is to tear down the people who have worked hard to build something new. A member of a community that loves the power they have over the small, fragile thing that is Esports and the teams involved. Someone who gets off on destroying peoples livelihoods because it makes them feel powerful.
Did I miss anything?
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On October 25 2012 05:10 yawnoC wrote:
I feel like Wheats rage is mostly because he has been around for so long and heard from every scene "Game X is going to die" only to see those games go one for YEARS afterwards and still be successful.
The show could have been great but then they brought on Destiny and it went downhill really fast.
I understand Wheats rage from the point that he wasn't aware what Incontrol just did (high-fiving which is extremely humialiting).
Any people with empathy fully understands Destiny's reaction and "rage-quit" given Incontrol's inappriate behaviour, but if you didn't notice Incontrol high-fiving his rage-quit does indeed seem a bit "pussy'ish."
Anyway, the rant was absolutely hilarous. I couldn't stop laughing.
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On October 25 2012 05:12 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:04 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:22 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:11 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
i dont even know why people are upset. that shit was hilarious. only thing to be upset about is incontrols behaviour. You and the rest of the destiny cult are so absurd it defies all logic. Of all the things you are complaining about , you think a fucking high five after telling him to stfu is something to get upset about?! Explain yourself, for my personal amusement. reddit does a fine job of that. Someone who does not really care about SC2 or the people involved, who’s only reason to be involved is to tear down the people who have worked hard to build something new. A member of a community that loves the power they have over the small, fragile thing that is Esports and the teams involved. Someone who gets off on destroying peoples livelihoods because it makes them feel powerful. Did I miss anything?
yes empathy.
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On October 25 2012 05:12 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:04 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:22 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:11 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
i dont even know why people are upset. that shit was hilarious. only thing to be upset about is incontrols behaviour. You and the rest of the destiny cult are so absurd it defies all logic. Of all the things you are complaining about , you think a fucking high five after telling him to stfu is something to get upset about?! Explain yourself, for my personal amusement. reddit does a fine job of that. Someone who does not really care about SC2 or the people involved, who’s only reason to be involved is to tear down the people who have worked hard to build something new. A member of a community that loves the power they have over the small, fragile thing that is Esports and the teams involved. Someone who gets off on destroying peoples livelihoods because it makes them feel powerful. Did I miss anything?
The fact that you think r/starcraft is SRS. Also you really think SRS wouldn't do that shit even without that forum? It would just be somewhere else. Also it is hilarious how you think it is only reddit that emails sponsors. They could be the majority or they could be equal to people on TL that do it also either good or bad.
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On October 25 2012 05:03 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:00 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:59 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:57 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:54 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:48 Leru wrote:On October 25 2012 04:45 Leth0 wrote:
The poop joke , that demonstrated where destiny gets his facts from, was the funniest thing on the show. Then destiny comes on and has a meltdown and it just became depressing to listen to someone so clueless trying to have a debate with a group of people that actually have an idea of wtf they are talking about. If a poop joke gets to prove some facts for you, then I think you should visit a public restroom for some interesting stuff, That's not what I said at all. The poop joke, was demonstrating where destiny gets his facts from. IE he was pulling numbers from his ass. When you say something like 90% of blah blah blah, with no facts to back you up, you are pulling it out from your ass. Does that explain it well enough? Incontrol made up numbers in that episode. too. But, seeing as he is your god and he can do no wrong, you will ignore it and flame me for liking Destiny even though I gave no indication that I do. When? I'm watching right now and he hasn't given any statement about numbers so far, so enlighten me please. "90% of players pirated the game" something like that. Not an exact quote, but he make it up. I am sure you will find it eventually. Of course it's not an exact quote, because much like destiny you just pulled that out of your ass. If you want to claim he was making shit up then you better back it up or you just look like a fucking moron. It's not my responsibility to prove your point for you.
This is what is wrong with the community.
Here is the actual quote. "Like 90% of the casual people, there's that Destiny number again, uh, didn't actually pay for the game". Yes, he is making up numbers.
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On October 25 2012 05:14 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:12 Plansix wrote:On October 25 2012 05:04 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:22 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:11 Hider wrote:On October 25 2012 04:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
i dont even know why people are upset. that shit was hilarious. only thing to be upset about is incontrols behaviour. You and the rest of the destiny cult are so absurd it defies all logic. Of all the things you are complaining about , you think a fucking high five after telling him to stfu is something to get upset about?! Explain yourself, for my personal amusement. reddit does a fine job of that. Someone who does not really care about SC2 or the people involved, who’s only reason to be involved is to tear down the people who have worked hard to build something new. A member of a community that loves the power they have over the small, fragile thing that is Esports and the teams involved. Someone who gets off on destroying peoples livelihoods because it makes them feel powerful. Did I miss anything? The fact that you think r/starcraft is SRS. Also you really think SRS wouldn't do that shit even without that forum? It would just be somewhere else. Also it is hilarious how you think it is only reddit that emails sponsors. They could be the majority or they could be equal to people on TL that do it also either good or bad.
I think SRS would not have the ability to do what they were doing if the forum did not exist. These people are not invested or willing to do anything beyond just send an email or two to sponsors. They are not going to exchange contact information and move to a new forum to continue their quest to destroy the “neck beards”. Once it becomes more effort to get together and do what they do, they will give up. If there is one thing troll lack it is conviction.
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I'm surprised there's this much of a blowup over a few guys known for either trolling or being extremely blunt doing what they always do, except maybe a little louder.
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Incontrol deserves to catch hell for this more than anyone else. He's not very good at the game but clings to being a "professional gamer" which of course is laughable. He contributes to the team by being accessible and entertaining for less intelligent viewers and new players. He is SC2 famous FOR being SC2 famous. He doesn't contribute much to the general community yet still brags about collecting a salary that could easily keep several other GOOD pro players afloat. He should definitely be held to a higher standard for his PR actions.
In Idras defense he never tried to be a public figure when he was competitive in tournaments. He didn't pimp himself out or stream nearly as much. Now that EG has brought in new "players" like Thorzain and Stephano Idra sees the writing on the wall and it's time for him to start playing nice with the community. I'd be more inclined to give him a pass because he still contributes to game-based discussion and is considerably less condescending and passive aggressive relative to sleazy Incontrol.
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On October 25 2012 03:09 iNcontroL wrote:
LOOK
I gave an amazingly over the top animated rant. It was offensive and it was mean. But it was directed at Destiny. Why is this different? Well, Destiny fucking dishes it out more so than anyone else. He doesn't make points without mocking others.. I get that: I am the same way. I felt like pretending to shit in my hand and doing a randy savage impression would make it pretty clear I was hamming it up pretty good. I in no way shape or form think this makes it "ok" or alright.. it's obscene and rude. BUT GUESS WHAT? Me ranting about fat girls wearing flip flops is mean/rude. Me ranting about horses IS mean and rude. Me comparing Artosis to a frog that eats shit off the ground IS mean and rude. I have ALWAYS joked this way. And NO this doesn't change anything.. I don't hate Destiny at all. I don't even dislike the guy.. I think he is fucking hilarious and I watch his stream frequently because I enjoy it. But I sure as fuck didn't agree with what he was saying so rather than give a straight laced boring speech I went into "rant mode" which has always been an "incontrol special" or w/e.
I am not sorry for my rant. It was a fucking joke. I am not sorry for high-fiving.. it was a fucking joke. The only thing I regret is having ever responded to this community. 2GD talks about my dead mother watching me masturbate and calls me a cunt on air and it's "Oh 2GD!" Want to know the difference? You guys know god damn well he doesn't give a fuck. I am guilty of giving a fuck.
Well there it is. I will rant and rave in the future. It's what I've done for my entire life. People usually love it but selectively and for no good reason it's also the reason "I lose respect" or "you have lost a fan today."
There are people on reddit campaigning to call the sponsors of EG and get me fired. Part of me hopes they are successful. I couldn't leave SC2 if I tried. Maybe I need this community to fucking murder me.
Sure got my respect back with that post! GG Inc <3
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On October 25 2012 05:20 Urasim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:03 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 05:00 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:59 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:57 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:54 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:48 Leru wrote:On October 25 2012 04:45 Leth0 wrote:
The poop joke , that demonstrated where destiny gets his facts from, was the funniest thing on the show. Then destiny comes on and has a meltdown and it just became depressing to listen to someone so clueless trying to have a debate with a group of people that actually have an idea of wtf they are talking about. If a poop joke gets to prove some facts for you, then I think you should visit a public restroom for some interesting stuff, That's not what I said at all. The poop joke, was demonstrating where destiny gets his facts from. IE he was pulling numbers from his ass. When you say something like 90% of blah blah blah, with no facts to back you up, you are pulling it out from your ass. Does that explain it well enough? Incontrol made up numbers in that episode. too. But, seeing as he is your god and he can do no wrong, you will ignore it and flame me for liking Destiny even though I gave no indication that I do. When? I'm watching right now and he hasn't given any statement about numbers so far, so enlighten me please. "90% of players pirated the game" something like that. Not an exact quote, but he make it up. I am sure you will find it eventually. Of course it's not an exact quote, because much like destiny you just pulled that out of your ass. If you want to claim he was making shit up then you better back it up or you just look like a fucking moron. It's not my responsibility to prove your point for you. This is what is wrong with the community. Here is the actual quote. "Like 90% of the casual people, there's that Destiny number again, uh, didn't actually pay for the game". Yes, he is making up numbers.
He's also acknowledging that he is making up numbers, unlike destiny who is trying to back up his points with fake numbers and treating them as real.
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I think you guys are taking this waaaaay more seriously than Destiny/Wheat et. al. I really don't think anyone hates anyone now and you guys are making a huge fucking deal out of nothing.
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On October 25 2012 05:20 Urasim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:03 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 05:00 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:59 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:57 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:54 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:48 Leru wrote:On October 25 2012 04:45 Leth0 wrote:
The poop joke , that demonstrated where destiny gets his facts from, was the funniest thing on the show. Then destiny comes on and has a meltdown and it just became depressing to listen to someone so clueless trying to have a debate with a group of people that actually have an idea of wtf they are talking about. If a poop joke gets to prove some facts for you, then I think you should visit a public restroom for some interesting stuff, That's not what I said at all. The poop joke, was demonstrating where destiny gets his facts from. IE he was pulling numbers from his ass. When you say something like 90% of blah blah blah, with no facts to back you up, you are pulling it out from your ass. Does that explain it well enough? Incontrol made up numbers in that episode. too. But, seeing as he is your god and he can do no wrong, you will ignore it and flame me for liking Destiny even though I gave no indication that I do. When? I'm watching right now and he hasn't given any statement about numbers so far, so enlighten me please. "90% of players pirated the game" something like that. Not an exact quote, but he make it up. I am sure you will find it eventually. Of course it's not an exact quote, because much like destiny you just pulled that out of your ass. If you want to claim he was making shit up then you better back it up or you just look like a fucking moron. It's not my responsibility to prove your point for you. This is what is wrong with the community. Here is the actual quote. "Like 90% of the casual people, there's that Destiny number again, uh, didn't actually pay for the game". Yes, he is making up numbers.
Your right, he did say this and I must of missed it when it aired. The difference is that Incontrol acknowledges the fact that he is pulling numbers from his ass by mockingly saying "theres that destiny number again". But your right, he did say that so I apologize for calling you a fucking moron.
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On October 25 2012 05:20 Urasim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:03 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 05:00 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:59 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:57 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:54 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:48 Leru wrote:On October 25 2012 04:45 Leth0 wrote:
The poop joke , that demonstrated where destiny gets his facts from, was the funniest thing on the show. Then destiny comes on and has a meltdown and it just became depressing to listen to someone so clueless trying to have a debate with a group of people that actually have an idea of wtf they are talking about. If a poop joke gets to prove some facts for you, then I think you should visit a public restroom for some interesting stuff, That's not what I said at all. The poop joke, was demonstrating where destiny gets his facts from. IE he was pulling numbers from his ass. When you say something like 90% of blah blah blah, with no facts to back you up, you are pulling it out from your ass. Does that explain it well enough? Incontrol made up numbers in that episode. too. But, seeing as he is your god and he can do no wrong, you will ignore it and flame me for liking Destiny even though I gave no indication that I do. When? I'm watching right now and he hasn't given any statement about numbers so far, so enlighten me please. "90% of players pirated the game" something like that. Not an exact quote, but he make it up. I am sure you will find it eventually. Of course it's not an exact quote, because much like destiny you just pulled that out of your ass. If you want to claim he was making shit up then you better back it up or you just look like a fucking moron. It's not my responsibility to prove your point for you. This is what is wrong with the community. Here is the actual quote. "Like 90% of the casual people, there's that Destiny number again, uh, didn't actually pay for the game". Yes, he is making up numbers. If we are being technical the actual quote it "It's weird to talk about casual brood war. Like 90% of the people, and there's that Destiny number again I apologize, uh, didn't actually pay for the game they pirated it."
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On October 25 2012 05:26 Golbat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:20 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 05:03 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 05:00 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:59 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:57 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:54 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:48 Leru wrote:On October 25 2012 04:45 Leth0 wrote:
The poop joke , that demonstrated where destiny gets his facts from, was the funniest thing on the show. Then destiny comes on and has a meltdown and it just became depressing to listen to someone so clueless trying to have a debate with a group of people that actually have an idea of wtf they are talking about. If a poop joke gets to prove some facts for you, then I think you should visit a public restroom for some interesting stuff, That's not what I said at all. The poop joke, was demonstrating where destiny gets his facts from. IE he was pulling numbers from his ass. When you say something like 90% of blah blah blah, with no facts to back you up, you are pulling it out from your ass. Does that explain it well enough? Incontrol made up numbers in that episode. too. But, seeing as he is your god and he can do no wrong, you will ignore it and flame me for liking Destiny even though I gave no indication that I do. When? I'm watching right now and he hasn't given any statement about numbers so far, so enlighten me please. "90% of players pirated the game" something like that. Not an exact quote, but he make it up. I am sure you will find it eventually. Of course it's not an exact quote, because much like destiny you just pulled that out of your ass. If you want to claim he was making shit up then you better back it up or you just look like a fucking moron. It's not my responsibility to prove your point for you. This is what is wrong with the community. Here is the actual quote. "Like 90% of the casual people, there's that Destiny number again, uh, didn't actually pay for the game". Yes, he is making up numbers. He's also acknowledging that he is making up numbers, unlike destiny who is trying to back up his points with fake numbers and treating them as real.
So, he knew full well that it was fake but said it anyway to make a point about what exactly? So, because Destiny made up numbers, but didn't say they were fake, his points are instantly invalid? But, when incontrol makes shit up it is okay?
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On October 25 2012 05:28 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 05:20 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 05:03 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 05:00 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:59 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:57 Urasim wrote:On October 25 2012 04:54 Leth0 wrote:On October 25 2012 04:48 Leru wrote:On October 25 2012 04:45 Leth0 wrote:
The poop joke , that demonstrated where destiny gets his facts from, was the funniest thing on the show. Then destiny comes on and has a meltdown and it just became depressing to listen to someone so clueless trying to have a debate with a group of people that actually have an idea of wtf they are talking about. If a poop joke gets to prove some facts for you, then I think you should visit a public restroom for some interesting stuff, That's not what I said at all. The poop joke, was demonstrating where destiny gets his facts from. IE he was pulling numbers from his ass. When you say something like 90% of blah blah blah, with no facts to back you up, you are pulling it out from your ass. Does that explain it well enough? Incontrol made up numbers in that episode. too. But, seeing as he is your god and he can do no wrong, you will ignore it and flame me for liking Destiny even though I gave no indication that I do. When? I'm watching right now and he hasn't given any statement about numbers so far, so enlighten me please. "90% of players pirated the game" something like that. Not an exact quote, but he make it up. I am sure you will find it eventually. Of course it's not an exact quote, because much like destiny you just pulled that out of your ass. If you want to claim he was making shit up then you better back it up or you just look like a fucking moron. It's not my responsibility to prove your point for you. This is what is wrong with the community. Here is the actual quote. "Like 90% of the casual people, there's that Destiny number again, uh, didn't actually pay for the game". Yes, he is making up numbers. Your right, he did say this and I must of missed it when it aired. The difference is that Incontrol acknowledges the fact that he is pulling numbers from his ass by mockingly saying "theres that destiny number again". But your right, he did say that so I apologize for calling you a fucking moron.
Before you call someone a "fucking moron" you might want to learn the difference between "your" and "you're". Just trying to help you not look like an idiot.
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Painuser was ok. Wheat and InControl were just shameful. Not gonna watch this again for a long long time.
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On October 25 2012 05:27 happyness wrote:
I think you guys are taking this waaaaay more seriously than Destiny/Wheat et. al. I really don't think anyone hates anyone now and you guys are making a huge fucking deal out of nothing.
I love your post if you guys want to debate and complain to each other go pm, if the other person does t pm back it's obvious the person has no argument and is only posting on this thread for nothing but to irritate you. Let the drama disperse and sc 2 come back to where it used to be.
I do hope HOTS does address the concerns that destiny's and now my concerns of making sc2 entertaining with custom map revivals
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I can understand why some people would get upset when Incontrol decides to go on a rant, insulting the person in question, but Destiny? As far as I can tell Destiny has been quite vocal and immature in the past; expressing his feelings through not the most constructive and mature posts/threads.
So why do some people act as if Destiny, the saint, didn't know what he got himself into, inviting himself on to the show even after having listened to the show following up to that point?
Give Incontrol and the rest of the guys on ITG a break. I'm pretty sure most of the people posting here, including me, got more fired up and 'butt hurt' than the actual people involved (Incontrol, Destiny, IdrA, Painuser and Wheat). You do know Incontrol and IdrA were/are relatively good friends with Destiny, right? Wouldn't surprise me one bit if in a week, they've put all of this behind them, before any of us here have.
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