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On June 28 2012 23:47 Reaps wrote:
Talin is still posting shit i see, i remember him from like 9 months ago always hating on eg and blindly defending tl even if hes 100% wrong, never known anyone so stubborn.

Sure TL is a great team, but when you look at overall results, EG has better, its a fact and im sure you are going to deny it but really you should think before posting sometimes, because you make yourself look like a blind fanboy.

On June 29 2012 02:19 howLiN wrote:
My god, that bit where iNcontroL imitates MLG's passive-agressiveness in explaining why the arenas are now free was fucking hilarious.

On June 29 2012 02:29 Plansix wrote:


It was and I agree with all the points may about the arenas. I hope next year MLG can announce a permanent studio where they can hold a GSL like event every two months. If the NA scene needed anything, it needs a more stable tournment structure and a place where teams can gravitate toward for live events. They could charge me $10 monthly and I would happily pay for some high quality live games 3-5 nights a week.

On June 29 2012 02:33 ixi.genocide wrote:


I think that the NA scene could use a smaller tournament like the cups that are in EU. Something that the pros can do to make money etc. That would promote practicing more and playing better because you could make a living off of it.

On June 29 2012 02:12 shell wrote:
It looks childish and sad dude.. and i do have the report button but i don't think being a e-thug against EG is deserving of a ban.. it's just stupid!

On June 29 2012 02:57 Talin wrote:
The things I do have an issue with aren't even unique to EG at all, they're shared by complexity/Fnatic/SK and a bunch of other teams and organizations I dislike from a business standpoint, even Liquid a little bit lately. I'm not going to change my opinion on that, but it doesn't mean I want everyone involved with these teams to lose everything and die.

On June 28 2012 21:09 Talin wrote:

Edit: and people actually do have the ability to look at post histories, you know. No idea why you're doing this.

On June 29 2012 02:44 Plansix wrote:


Agreed, but EU does not have the size problem that NA has. As one of my college roommates from Amsterdam said "Your country is huge. I could drive half a day an be in another country or Paris in 24 hours. Not here." With the players so spread out, the cost of travel, room and board really cut into their ability to attend smaller events. I think SC2 could stand to become more regional while it grows and a permanent studio could be the first step.

On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:



Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.

On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:



Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.

On June 29 2012 07:57 Plethora wrote:


What I think could really help combat the size issues in NA is to have an organized set of regional leagues. You have a bunch of local events and leagues that run year-round (more or less). Then a few times a year you plan a bigger event where some number of people from the top of each region qualify to play. It could work but would need a hell of a lot more organization than I think is feasible in the NA scene right now...

Plus I think one of the reasons you might want to do this is to find a way to get some new blood into the pro scene in North America. So you'd want to find some mechanism to prevent the same group of people winning the various regions over and over again (but still be fair and competitive).