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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
June 28 2012 23:19 GMT
#4921
On June 29 2012 08:11 Reaps wrote:
Good post indeed, i have a feeling somehow talin wont be replying to it though :D

Hurry, someone pm it to him
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
T-oastbro-T
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 00:29:20
June 29 2012 00:14 GMT
#4922
What Wheat was probably watching at the time:

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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 05:28:21
June 29 2012 04:59 GMT
#4923
On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:09 Talin wrote:

Edit: and people actually do have the ability to look at post histories, you know. No idea why you're doing this.



Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.



Commendable effort and most of that's true, if a bit outdated. And some of it are jokes (the pets thing for fucks sake).

Admittedly I was blunt during the Puma/Huk transfers. I still think that the way large western gaming organizations do business is quite cutthroat and even nefarious to an extent (and did reflect negatively on every scene they all were involved with in the past), but I wouldn't have worded it as passionately today as I did in the past. In hindsight, it was stupid to get so emotionally involved in things completely out of my control - that one lesson I did learn.

The protestations of innocence was about the whole stalking thing and going around from thread to thread and fanclubs saying some abusive evil things. Most of the stuff you found was from a select couple of particularly hot threads almost a year ago.

More importantly, here are some posts that happened in the meantime, that you missed because you only looked in threads you wanted to look in:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336097&currentpage=7#132 (on EG vs Empire)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336286&currentpage=10#181 (on Thorzain)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=262214&currentpage=3#45 (about a guy who thinks I'm diabolically stalking him)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494&currentpage=1477#29535 (more about the same person, I guess I am stalking him)

So hateful right? There's a ton more, but I can't remember the content enough to Google them. The whole Demuslim vs Nestea debate comes to mind etc.

So no, I'm not stalking anyone. The only reason I even bother trying to prove this to people who are usually less than reasonable is that I'm eventually going to say something negative about EG at one point or the other, and I don't want 10 angry nerds on my back talking about hate, thuggery and hooliganism every time I mention their GSL results when somebody proclaims them to be the best team etc. If you can't take the argument, then just don't argue rather than coming up with some ad hominem bullshit.

But I'm guessing this was just an exercise in futility afterall.
Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
June 29 2012 14:41 GMT
#4924
On June 29 2012 13:59 Talin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.



Commendable effort and most of that's true, if a bit outdated. And some of it are jokes (the pets thing for fucks sake).

Admittedly I was blunt during the Puma/Huk transfers. I still think that the way large western gaming organizations do business is quite cutthroat and even nefarious to an extent (and did reflect negatively on every scene they all were involved with in the past), but I wouldn't have worded it as passionately today as I did in the past. In hindsight, it was stupid to get so emotionally involved in things completely out of my control - that one lesson I did learn.

The protestations of innocence was about the whole stalking thing and going around from thread to thread and fanclubs saying some abusive evil things. Most of the stuff you found was from a select couple of particularly hot threads almost a year ago.

More importantly, here are some posts that happened in the meantime, that you missed because you only looked in threads you wanted to look in:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336097&currentpage=7#132 (on EG vs Empire)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336286&currentpage=10#181 (on Thorzain)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=262214&currentpage=3#45 (about a guy who thinks I'm diabolically stalking him)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494&currentpage=1477#29535 (more about the same person, I guess I am stalking him)

So hateful right? There's a ton more, but I can't remember the content enough to Google them. The whole Demuslim vs Nestea debate comes to mind etc.

So no, I'm not stalking anyone. The only reason I even bother trying to prove this to people who are usually less than reasonable is that I'm eventually going to say something negative about EG at one point or the other, and I don't want 10 angry nerds on my back talking about hate, thuggery and hooliganism every time I mention their GSL results when somebody proclaims them to be the best team etc. If you can't take the argument, then just don't argue rather than coming up with some ad hominem bullshit.

But I'm guessing this was just an exercise in futility afterall.


I think we can all agree you have a tendency of bashing EG and that most of those posts are batshit crazy which makes your authority in this forum to be equal to a small piece of coal.
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
July 03 2012 19:19 GMT
#4925
I'm assuming now show tonight, logic being no Lo3 tomorrow, Idra and Incontrol traveling, and Wheat in SF. Is my logic sound?
Team owner of team QTLing
johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
July 03 2012 23:00 GMT
#4926
any show tonight?
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 03 2012 23:04 GMT
#4927
On July 04 2012 04:19 CuteZergling wrote:
I'm assuming now show tonight, logic being no Lo3 tomorrow, Idra and Incontrol traveling, and Wheat in SF. Is my logic sound?

pretty sound logic.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
July 04 2012 05:26 GMT
#4928
Oh god, I've just watched ep 45 and wheat's face so funny when caller called Barbara was indeed a Barbara.. :D epic
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 01:55:46
July 05 2012 01:55 GMT
#4929
On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:09 Talin wrote:

Edit: and people actually do have the ability to look at post histories, you know. No idea why you're doing this.



Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.



I actually just came to this thread to see if there was any word about the last 10 or so ITG episodes being updated on itunes. Then I found your epic post. Bravo sir, that is a truly entertaining little read. It's always nice to see haters/trolls getting exposed.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
July 10 2012 19:08 GMT
#4930
Yo, quick question. My itunes subscription of all the onemoregame.tv shows is no longer up to date. ITG stop at around mid-30's, Lo3 stop at 104 etc...

Where can I find the audio only rips of the other eps? I tried their site but it just gives me an rss of the same ones I have access to on my itunes. I'm dying for more dj_wheat but I just cant find it!
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
Ultrablue
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland31 Posts
July 10 2012 19:26 GMT
#4931
On July 11 2012 04:08 nemahsys wrote:
Yo, quick question. My itunes subscription of all the onemoregame.tv shows is no longer up to date. ITG stop at around mid-30's, Lo3 stop at 104 etc...

Where can I find the audio only rips of the other eps? I tried their site but it just gives me an rss of the same ones I have access to on my itunes. I'm dying for more dj_wheat but I just cant find it!


Second wonderer here.
Been missing the shows a lot on .mp3 form. Awesome entertainment while trucking, keeps me up
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 10 2012 19:26 GMT
#4932
On July 05 2012 10:55 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:09 Talin wrote:

Edit: and people actually do have the ability to look at post histories, you know. No idea why you're doing this.



Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.



I actually just came to this thread to see if there was any word about the last 10 or so ITG episodes being updated on itunes. Then I found your epic post. Bravo sir, that is a truly entertaining little read. It's always nice to see haters/trolls getting exposed.


yeah keeping this on deck for next time he posts LOL

we will have a show in 3 hours folks!
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 10 2012 19:31 GMT
#4933
On July 11 2012 04:26 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 10:55 hitpoint wrote:
On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:09 Talin wrote:

Edit: and people actually do have the ability to look at post histories, you know. No idea why you're doing this.



Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.



I actually just came to this thread to see if there was any word about the last 10 or so ITG episodes being updated on itunes. Then I found your epic post. Bravo sir, that is a truly entertaining little read. It's always nice to see haters/trolls getting exposed.


yeah keeping this on deck for next time he posts LOL

we will have a show in 3 hours folks!

Looking forward to it :D
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
July 10 2012 19:35 GMT
#4934
On July 11 2012 04:26 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 10:55 hitpoint wrote:
On June 29 2012 07:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:09 Talin wrote:

Edit: and people actually do have the ability to look at post histories, you know. No idea why you're doing this.



Just for funsies, I figured I'd look through the post history. There's a bit of bashing EG's business model, some being irritated at Poa and Hobbes, a silly backhanded accusation of poaching, some hindsight-assisted judgements about Geoff... You really seem to shit on EG's player development a lot. There's a bunch of passive-aggressive stupidity, along the lines of 'well, some teams do this, unlike those other teams, which do this!' You don't tend to say any names, but it's only slightly less than blindingly obvious which ones you're talking about. I don't know what Puma did to you or your cat, but you haven't said a single good word about him, ever. You did call him a nobody after he won NASL, though, so I guess that's something. It's better than that time right around when he joined EG, when you said he was "finished as a top tier progamer - it's over for him".

In fairness to you, you've calmed down a lot since Huk-to-EG and Puma-to-EG happened. Back then it was all accusations of 'dragging others down' and predictions of imminent doom and unpopularity and high-minded assumptions about the glowing future of the TL/oGs partnership (really great call there, b-t-dubs). You also had this weird thing going on where you seemed to assume that Huk-to-EG only happened because there's some underlying hatred between the management teams and EG only acquired a player to fuck over another team, like some guy sauntering through a parking lot, smashing up people's cars with a bat, just 'cause he can. You commented on the wonderfulness and loyalty of Clide and SangHo, saying that Puma would regret his decision when he watched them winning foreign tournaments which he might have taken IF ONLY he'd never left TSL (again, good call on the futures of SlayerS'Clide and coLKiller). You've called their management liars, you've attempted to build some sort of case that the team is out to deceive everyone in a nefarious attempt to line their own pockets, while at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME claiming that their business practices are unsustainable and will lead to ruin, both for EG and for everyone who has ever played or even looked at a game ever. You've said they're "blatantly abusing" smaller teams, "screwing over" other teams and players "without a trace of good manner or respect", and accused people who've disagreed of racism.

You also said, and again I quote: "I'm literally looking forward to the day they disappear from the SC2 scene."

That's nice. It doesn't make your protestations of innocence sound good though.



I actually just came to this thread to see if there was any word about the last 10 or so ITG episodes being updated on itunes. Then I found your epic post. Bravo sir, that is a truly entertaining little read. It's always nice to see haters/trolls getting exposed.


yeah keeping this on deck for next time he posts LOL

we will have a show in 3 hours folks!



Good shit, I'll be watching. =)
aintthatfunny
Profile Joined April 2012
193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 22:21:07
July 10 2012 22:20 GMT
#4935
i cant find a stream for ITG

edit: nvm
I promise I'll behave.
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
July 11 2012 00:49 GMT
#4936
gratz goatlust! you're efamous enough now to have imitation trolls! lol
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 01:06:47
July 11 2012 01:04 GMT
#4937
The end of this episode was amazing, anyone who missed it....watch the vod

And by the end, I mean basically the whole caller section
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
July 11 2012 01:04 GMT
#4938
rofl this incontrol voice
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
July 11 2012 01:05 GMT
#4939
i'm crying
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
July 11 2012 01:05 GMT
#4940
holy shit that native american impersonation caught me off guard. hilarious as shit great show as always guys!
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
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