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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
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kaisr
Canada715 Posts
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Strauss
Mexico18 Posts
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Mr. Knuff
Germany23 Posts
It seems to me that they try really hard to say something at all times or pretend that there is a lot of action in every second of the game. Endless stream of words and non-stop talking is not what I consider high-level commentating. There is a really hectic feel about the game with casts like that. I really like the Artosis / Tasteless combination in the GSL or the way Day9 "casts" his dailies. That is really pleasant to watch and listen. It's calm and analytic most of the time, but still energetic when there is action and they even throw in a few jokes to spice it up. | ||
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NikonTC
United Kingdom418 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:31 teacash wrote: VOD flaws: If you accidentally click on the browser window outside the video, you lose the loaded vod in progress and it goes back to the beginning. If you do this on game 2 or game 3, it will take you back to game 1 and you have no convenient way of skipping straight to a certain game. Please add a next game or game selection button to the vod player.. And learn from Gom by keeping a 3rd game "shell" for every series regardless of whether it goes 2 or 3 games. Also, the Menu function doesn't do anything useful for me Came here to post exactly this, the website is pretty but not at all functional, and I have a slower connection and tend to let VODs preload before i press play, so if i do accidently click off the screen and lose the vods progress, it's a massive pain. Also, i can't even work out how to get onto games 2/3 of the series.. it doesnt seem to be clear although maybe i'm just being dense. On a positive note, i love the production and the design, stream quality is excellent as well. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
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RainWhisper
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:45 Strauss wrote: Incontrol hyped NASL for like six months and it was smashed by a tournament nobody even heard of 2 months ago GG, fatty This just fucking pisses me off so much. What have you done? Nothing. | ||
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mikesaysno
United States85 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:48 Stiluz wrote: I am really impressed with IPL, it makes me regret those 25$ spent on the NASL subscription, since IPL is free. Yeah same here. The production quality of IPL really blew me away. NASL has the much better roster, but the first week let me down so much that I haven't bothered to tune into the last few days. I basically just wasted $25. I honestly hope both leagues thrive, but NASL really needs to step their game up. What we were given hasn't lived up to a quarter of the hype and it's really unfortunate. More on topic though, I'm really excited to keep watching IPL and I can't wait to see what these guys are able to do with season 2! | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:45 Mr. Knuff wrote: Am I the only one who does not enjoy casters like TB, Husky, HDStarcraft etc.? It seems to me that they try really hard to say something at all times or pretend that there is a lot of action in every second of the game. Endless stream of words and non-stop talking is not what I consider high-level commentating. There is a really hectic feel about the game with casts like that. I really like the Artosis / Tasteless combination in the GSL or the way Day9 "casts" his dailies. That is really pleasant to watch and listen. It's calm and analytic most of the time, but still energetic when there is action and they even throw in a few jokes to spice it up. I love TB's style personally. His game knowledge (or lack thereof) makes it a little difficult to listen to him or for me to consider him a favorite, but I still love the style and think if he put some serious time in learning the game so he could be an amazing caster. You could also copy-paste DJWheat for TB in what I just said, but he does have a decent amount of game knowledge by comparison. IPL and NASL don't compete for me. I just tune in to the players I want to see. If Sheth or Idra are playing IPL then I'm watching that, if they're playing NASL then I'm watching that. I love this situation because it makes me feel much more motivated to watch the games. It's like I have a 'home team' I can follow rather than seeing a bunch of games that are entertaining, but lack an investment in me. I personally really don't care if Incontrol or Cruncher wins (no offense to either player) as they're not players I follow. So being able to tune out and watch a zerg I DO follow in another league for that time is just amazing to me. I really wish someone would put together a quick and dirty guide to help casters with game knowledge, though if anyone but a pro did it I think it'd be ignored and/or flamed for coming from someone who doesn't cast. Just stuff like how to identify common builds, how to evaluate positioning, understanding some of the mid/late game tactical choices, some tips on evaluating which side is stronger in a fight, why someone might pick a certain expansion spot, and stuff like that. | ||
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Escape
Canada306 Posts
Positives: - Learned from others' mistakes - Limited to NA only, minimizes lag issues and time zone headaches. - Casting from replays minimizes bnet connection lags and casting interruptions. - Minimizes editing work necessary and focuses on value-add production work. - Very smart, very professional overall. Negatives: - solo casting has its limits, even with great casters like Wheat and TB. - lower than (my) expected viewer count. TSL has 50k+ viewers. I feel that it hasn't reached out to those outside of the SC2 communities yet. thanks again. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
A superb international lineup is basically the only thing keeping the IPL from being one of the big dogs (since the prize pool is getting a bump and they're getting rid of the solo casting :p) On April 22 2011 23:45 Strauss wrote: Account suicide, fuck yeah!Incontrol hyped NASL for like six months and it was smashed by a tournament nobody even heard of 2 months ago GG, fatty | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:58 Escape wrote: I am very impressed so far. Good job IPL. Positives: - Learned from others' mistakes - Limited to NA only, minimizes lag issues and time zone headaches. - Casting from replays minimizes bnet connection lags and casting interruptions. - Minimizes editing work necessary and focuses on value-add production work. - Very smart, very professional overall. Negatives: - solo casting has its limits, even with great casters like Wheat and TB. - lower than (my) expected viewer count. TSL has 50k+ viewers. I feel that it hasn't reached out to those outside of the SC2 communities yet. thanks again. TSL is also broadcasted on weekends and has global players which helps a lot as not only are there players that the Korean scene might want to watch, but they can also stay up late/wake up early to watch it. The TSL also has no real conflicts unlike NASL/IPL which conflicts directly with stuff like Day[9] and SotG and indirectly with GSL (how many people can really watch IPL/NASL AND stay up for GSL) | ||
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tmIntoTheFruitro
United States76 Posts
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ataryens
Iran213 Posts
On April 22 2011 23:53 Treemonkeys wrote: This just fucking pisses me off so much. What have you done? Nothing. Well, being rude aside, he does have a point. There are so many things wrong with NASL (and you cant expect everything to be perfect). But I (just me) think that they could have made it alot better. I like their approach of players must have a team and so on but I dont understand why they call it NASL and allow other players to play. The fact that so many koreans are lagging in game just reduces the level of play. I think they couldv really made it the foundation of sc2 esport if they would had limited it to players residing in NA. Hopefully it would be a hit and they could do the same thing in europe/asia/SA/SEA and then have top seeds (# ranging from server to another) would be invited to the "real GSL." (maybe have the global one change places from year to year and have the people who will organize the tournament pay for the lodging/food/airport to lan of the players from the profits of tickets and etc.) I am not sure what the goal of this new tournament is, but its really fun to watch even with ok commentary. I hate Day9 but I think he is the only good commentator out there and if I had to choose what tournament I would watch it would be solely dependent on the commentator. | ||
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
On April 22 2011 12:42 sermokala wrote: but all of NASL's problems are technical all of IPL's are fundamental. more then one caster? gretorp getting better every night inc is a legit player thats actually playing well in the league. Diggity coming in and doing well. and kalador who is a very very good. TB is a horrid caster that got on my nerves in a single game. Yesterday I watched 3 games of Sheth vs rainbow godlike 40+ games in each one. They where better then anything that IPL had today. poorly done 4 gate rush after poorly done 4 gate rush does not a good stream make. and if tomarrow somehow they fix the stream and it isn't total shit whos a lot better? hell even MLG's going to have a great stream next event. the gloss is going to come off the IPL and people are gona start seeing that. It looks fucking amazing but that can only go so far You have never produced anything broadcast wise in your life have you? There are no fundamental problems with the IPL, regardless of your opinion. They will add international players next season, but idiots like you blame the league for the standard of matches after one night, ROFL The reason that the games are of a high standard are because there are Europeans and Koreans in the NASL, what the IPL does very well is show that there aren't many great NA players which us Europeans have known for a while, the TSL also shows this. Doesn't mean that there wont be in the future. Then to 'add' to your argument you actually state that if somehow they fix the stream and it isn't total shit..........who's a lot better? If they fix the stream, the sound, the encoding, the VOD access, the studio set-up, etc, etc. Every day the NASL has been saying bear with us guys we'll get there. But they haven't improved any of the technical aspects yet and yes the casting is improving very slowly. Every night there is another problem for the NASL, but your point about the quality of games is like blaming the NASL for the cancellations, which I certainly don't. Also to further illustrate how silly your point is Sheth played on both streams last night and he wasn't playing as well in his IPL game. Lastly, look at Cruchers poorly executed 4 gate rush in his match against Incontrol, again you're being subjective The gloss has already come off of the NASL because of the over-hype and the fact that it hasn't improved one bit since the show-match. I watched both last night and overlooked the bad sound, bad quality stream because of the quality of players, i.e White-Ra vs Sjow on NASL. The fundamentals are all in favour of the IPL so far. It is run by a large well funded, experienced company. They will add everything they need once they have proven the market for the product and confirmed the potential as they have stated. To help put your bias in perspective ask yourself this, if it was say for example's sake a choice between watching the TSL or the NASL at this point and you had to pay for VOD's from the NASL (so its live stream versus live stream) which would you choose? I reckon 90% of TL people would answer TSL. The fact that they have 50000 viewers backs my point up. IPL will add everything that the NASL has and will already be running their second (international) tournament before the first season of the NASL has concluded I understand that you are supporting the NASL as are all true SC2 esports fans, but don't state subjective crap as the reason that their competitors will fail, I want them both to succeed and to spur each other on to be as good as they can be and the fact that we're being spoilt for choice makes your points sound very subjective. No personal disrespect intended here but I had to respond to that post. | ||
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Augury
United States758 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
Free vods though... that's cash. I like me some of that for free. | ||
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