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On April 23 2011 00:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I don't really see why it has to be one or the other. NASL can learn from IPL, IPL can learn from NASL. Competition is always a good thing regardless of medium and there's also plenty of room for different approaches. Nobody wants to see the NASL fail and claiming that IPL killed it is fairly ridiculous. It's a 3-4 day tournament to test the waters, after which Season 2 will be coming along with qualifiers, a larger playerpool, dual-commentators, more shinies, possibly an elephant and we'll see where it goes from there. In the meantime, NASL will continue to run with some amazing games and an incredible line-up.
Competition is awesome, but trash talk is unfortunately one of the side effects.
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On April 23 2011 00:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I don't really see why it has to be one or the other. NASL can learn from IPL, IPL can learn from NASL. Competition is always a good thing regardless of medium and there's also plenty of room for different approaches. Nobody wants to see the NASL fail and claiming that IPL killed it is fairly ridiculous. It's a 3-4 day tournament to test the waters, after which Season 2 will be coming along with qualifiers, a larger playerpool, dual-commentators, more shinies, possibly an elephant and we'll see where it goes from there. In the meantime, NASL will continue to run with some amazing games and an incredible line-up.
Sadly, such is the internet.  But I totally agree with you.
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I love it! My only grief is how hard it is to navigate from game to game :O
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On April 23 2011 00:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I don't really see why it has to be one or the other. NASL can learn from IPL, IPL can learn from NASL. Competition is always a good thing regardless of medium and there's also plenty of room for different approaches. Nobody wants to see the NASL fail and claiming that IPL killed it is fairly ridiculous. It's a 3-4 day tournament to test the waters, after which Season 2 will be coming along with qualifiers, a larger playerpool, dual-commentators, more shinies, possibly an elephant and we'll see where it goes from there. In the meantime, NASL will continue to run with some amazing games and an incredible line-up.
I'm going to hold you to that elephant in season 2!
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Amazing production but I'd like dual casters as its usually nice to have two people talking things out with each other and making jokes with each other and etc in the dull times.
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On April 23 2011 00:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I don't really see why it has to be one or the other. NASL can learn from IPL, IPL can learn from NASL. Competition is always a good thing regardless of medium and there's also plenty of room for different approaches. Nobody wants to see the NASL fail and claiming that IPL killed it is fairly ridiculous. It's a 3-4 day tournament to test the waters, after which Season 2 will be coming along with qualifiers, a larger playerpool, dual-commentators, more shinies, possibly an elephant and we'll see where it goes from there. In the meantime, NASL will continue to run with some amazing games and an incredible line-up.
If it will not be able to do tricks I can assure you, you will have a public outcry to rival that of Kelly casting Code A :D
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Total Biscuit is completely right. Competition will do nothing but good things for E-sports. I'm sure players like having more tournaments too, gives them opportunities to make more money and display their skills. Having these two leagues running parallel will be awesome for SC2 and will ideally bring more legitimacy to the sport itself.
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Holy wow. This is awesome-sauce. VODs nice and split up and easy to find. but my only qualm is that there is no non-spoiler 3rd match added to the VOD set up. As soon as you open you know if there is a third match or not. I am sure they will change this going forward. Prod quality is way slicker than i could have imagined.
I like having a british caster, sounds so classy! but for some reason he reminds me of the old school micro-machines guy, who talked super fast. yeah, i know. i'm a geezer.
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A huge issue with the VODs is that if someone won 2-0, they only show 2 VODs, so the game is spoiled after G1.
However they're pretty good.
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I must be viewing vods at a different place than you guys above, because i only see ONE vid option for each matchup, and then it will autoplay the full playlist of the series when you play that vod..
Follow-up to "clicking off the screen" cancelling the current vod progress:
I switched from Chrome to Firefox, and this problem does not seem to occur.
Also: standard def vods were choppy with Chrome (even though load bar was far ahead of progress bar), but with Firefox are smooth.
IPL: Work on vod setups, do not spoil but allow for full choice of games. Also work on browser compatibility issues.
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Just one minor issue with the "score overlay" ... it says "Round 1", but at the same time DJWheat talks about "the round of 16" and having the same term used for two different things seems kinda bad. The games are "properly numbered" as game 1, 2, 3 in the VOD section and thus the overlay should be Game instead of Round ... One minor issue that is easily fixed.
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On April 23 2011 02:25 teacash wrote:
I must be viewing vods at a different place than you guys above
This is where I am watching them. When i click on a macthup, i get a pop up overlay.
http://www.ign.com/ipl/videos
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I was wondering, why can't we like both? Some people on here are trying to make us, make a decision on who is the best and citing reasons. I love all the games, all the players, so much content. If the people who love IPL, awesome sauce, if you love NASL awesome sauce as well.
Do we have to choose? I'm enjoying all these games. Its very nice we are able to express our opinion, but why compare. If you didn't pay for NASL, great for you. If you did (I'm paying and not regretting it one bit) then I'm sorry if you are unhappy.
What I don't understand if people complaining about the production value. When the world cup is going on, I was just happy to hear it on any kind of media device. If my favorite team was playing on American football I am happy to at least read about it on some forum. Its the game people, the excitement of the players.
Complaining about the score overlay, or it lagged seriously? Its all wonderful. Don't you think?
Maybe this industry is being too transparent? Making changes to suit a few, when the content is so enjoyable.
I don't have a clue on how to encode or make the audio better. I know how to enjoy and feel the blood rush as pro gamers clash in this arena for our enjoyment.
It will never be perfect to please everyone. There will always be something wrong in few peoples eyes. My worry is we are driving a wedge between all these people we have grown to love. People are now choosing sides ( its in the air) DJwheat or Gretorp?
TB or Incontrol? wow seriously, is this the way we want it to go down? ( and no i was just making examples not choosing sides)
I'm happy for all the people involved. Their time and dedication has hopefully paid off for the benefit of themselves ad well as for our benefit.
I saw the moderators on both streams having a field day by banning people left and right.
Maybe they should just turn off the chat.
Please, lets us enjoy.
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Am I doing something wrong? I checked out a vod this morning and the quality was hardly 1080p. My NASL vods look just as good if not better (Not talking about fps here...no clue as to how each are encoded, etc). Is the 1080p quality the op is talking about only for the stream or something? Not trying to knock it or anything, just a little confused.
I look forward to following both leagues.
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On April 23 2011 01:05 Skaff wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 00:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I don't really see why it has to be one or the other. NASL can learn from IPL, IPL can learn from NASL. Competition is always a good thing regardless of medium and there's also plenty of room for different approaches. Nobody wants to see the NASL fail and claiming that IPL killed it is fairly ridiculous. It's a 3-4 day tournament to test the waters, after which Season 2 will be coming along with qualifiers, a larger playerpool, dual-commentators, more shinies, possibly an elephant and we'll see where it goes from there. In the meantime, NASL will continue to run with some amazing games and an incredible line-up. I'm going to hold you to that elephant in season 2!
TotalHannibal
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Yeah.. fuck the 30 min pre show. No one wants to watch a dude sit in front of a green screen.
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You have to swap it to HD settings, and i think the TC was exaggerating a bit. The quality is phenomenal for a free stream and significantly better that was NASL's stream
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IPL stream / audio quality is amazing.. so are the casters... But i rather watch incontrol and gretorp <3 ... Nothing against IPL im just an nasl fan...
Remember.. if you dont give a shit what league you watch... watch nasl 
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On April 23 2011 03:05 Belligerent wrote:
Yeah.. fuck the 30 min pre show. No one wants to watch a dude sit in front of a green screen.
You know you can pretend they don't exist if you'd like. Just pretend they dropped it and moved the start time back 30 minutes!
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On April 23 2011 02:55 Justanx wrote:
Do we have to choose?
I don't want to choose, but there is only so much time in the day to work, play starcraft, watch starcraft, work some more, try and sleep and do it all over again (also trying to fit in Bulls playoff games). therefore, it inevitably comes down to making a choice here and there. I think many of us will ultimately choose GSL first, because we have come to love it and it has been refined into the best pro SC2 around. Plus its live, who doesn't love live action. After GSL i think most of us will have time for one more major league, like either NASL or IPL.
I won't be choosing so much as focusing my attention on one. Like, for NASL its the amazing amount of games that i love, so i will probably keep an eye out for the match-ups and players i really want to see, while watching the IPL more religiously like i do GSL.
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