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ExPresident
Profile Joined January 2010
United States215 Posts
April 22 2011 18:17 GMT
#721
It amazes me that people complain about the pre-game show that the NASL does. Your not forced to watch it and its not like you don't know when the games start anyway. If its such a big deal just skip it. People who really enjoy hearing stuff about SCII regardless of what it is enjoy the pre-game show and appreciate that the NASL does it. You don't have to buy a pass to the NASL so wth.

I didn't get to watch all of the IGN PL last night but from the start it was good, ran smooth, looked great, and sounded good to. Thought the casters did a great job to. All I know is I've got great leagues to watch and they will only continue to improve.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#722
On April 23 2011 02:55 Justanx wrote:
I was wondering, why can't we like both? Some people on here are trying to make us, make a decision on who is the best and citing reasons. I love all the games, all the players, so much content. If the people who love IPL, awesome sauce, if you love NASL awesome sauce as well.

Do we have to choose? I'm enjoying all these games. Its very nice we are able to express our opinion, but why compare. If you didn't pay for NASL, great for you. If you did (I'm paying and not regretting it one bit) then I'm sorry if you are unhappy.

What I don't understand if people complaining about the production value. When the world cup is going on, I was just happy to hear it on any kind of media device. If my favorite team was playing on American football I am happy to at least read about it on some forum. Its the game people, the excitement of the players.

Complaining about the score overlay, or it lagged seriously? Its all wonderful. Don't you think?

Maybe this industry is being too transparent? Making changes to suit a few, when the content is so enjoyable.

I don't have a clue on how to encode or make the audio better. I know how to enjoy and feel the blood rush as pro gamers clash in this arena for our enjoyment.

It will never be perfect to please everyone. There will always be something wrong in few peoples eyes. My worry is we are driving a wedge between all these people we have grown to love. People are now choosing sides ( its in the air) DJwheat or Gretorp?

TB or Incontrol? wow seriously, is this the way we want it to go down? ( and no i was just making examples not choosing sides)

I'm happy for all the people involved. Their time and dedication has hopefully paid off for the benefit of themselves ad well as for our benefit.

I saw the moderators on both streams having a field day by banning people left and right.

Maybe they should just turn off the chat.


Please, lets us enjoy.


Very nice post, and I agree 100%. I think a lot of the anti-NASL language put out there by the TL community can only hurt Esports. Patience is what is sorely missing.
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
April 22 2011 22:54 GMT
#723
Hey everyone, we really appreciate all of your input and feedback. Right now our engineers are working on our video section to make it better! Please keep giving us feedback as the video site evolves and the event progresses! I've read every single post here and have passed on a lot of great stuff!
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
shifty
Profile Joined July 2010
United States280 Posts
April 22 2011 23:19 GMT
#724
On April 23 2011 07:54 Alex.IGN wrote:
Hey everyone, we really appreciate all of your input and feedback. Right now our engineers are working on our video section to make it better! Please keep giving us feedback as the video site evolves and the event progresses! I've read every single post here and have passed on a lot of great stuff!

I really loved how it went yesterday NASL cannot compete with you guys. Better casting, better production and it's free!!! I can't complain.

Western Tribe http://www.wtr1be.com
diddLY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States215 Posts
April 22 2011 23:21 GMT
#725
I know it's only been one cast, but they simply have got it right. Through a combination of having spectacular production value and learning from others mistakes, IGN is definitely teh sex :D
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
April 22 2011 23:22 GMT
#726
I feel sorry for NASL. More hype but they only have like 10 people working on NASL while IGN has probably a whole team. And it shows too. What irks me is that NASL is not professional (no professionals working there) but they marketed themselves as being a pro league.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
April 22 2011 23:30 GMT
#727
On April 23 2011 04:13 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 02:55 Justanx wrote:
I was wondering, why can't we like both? Some people on here are trying to make us, make a decision on who is the best and citing reasons. I love all the games, all the players, so much content. If the people who love IPL, awesome sauce, if you love NASL awesome sauce as well.

Do we have to choose? I'm enjoying all these games. Its very nice we are able to express our opinion, but why compare. If you didn't pay for NASL, great for you. If you did (I'm paying and not regretting it one bit) then I'm sorry if you are unhappy.

What I don't understand if people complaining about the production value. When the world cup is going on, I was just happy to hear it on any kind of media device. If my favorite team was playing on American football I am happy to at least read about it on some forum. Its the game people, the excitement of the players.

Complaining about the score overlay, or it lagged seriously? Its all wonderful. Don't you think?

Maybe this industry is being too transparent? Making changes to suit a few, when the content is so enjoyable.

I don't have a clue on how to encode or make the audio better. I know how to enjoy and feel the blood rush as pro gamers clash in this arena for our enjoyment.

It will never be perfect to please everyone. There will always be something wrong in few peoples eyes. My worry is we are driving a wedge between all these people we have grown to love. People are now choosing sides ( its in the air) DJwheat or Gretorp?

TB or Incontrol? wow seriously, is this the way we want it to go down? ( and no i was just making examples not choosing sides)

I'm happy for all the people involved. Their time and dedication has hopefully paid off for the benefit of themselves ad well as for our benefit.

I saw the moderators on both streams having a field day by banning people left and right.

Maybe they should just turn off the chat.


Please, lets us enjoy.


Very nice post, and I agree 100%. I think a lot of the anti-NASL language put out there by the TL community can only hurt Esports. Patience is what is sorely missing.


Right on. The thing is, this is the first time that anything of this caliber has been brought to western-esports (aside from TSL1 and TSL2). The GSL has had a huge amount of time in watching sc1 management in South Korea and has done a great job in re-inventing that format. This is the first time that something like this is being brought to the western e-sports and frankly, we've been spoiled by the awesomeness of GSL, OSL, MSL. We need to wait and be patient, provide constructive criticism and eventually we can have e-sports blossom around the world.
Fantasy is a beast
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:47:20
April 22 2011 23:32 GMT
#728
Love being able to filer the videos on the the video archive.

edit: i will say the need to add a 3rd video for each match tho so after the first game you dont know who won
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:52:50
April 22 2011 23:46 GMT
#729
On April 23 2011 00:44 Augury wrote:
They even have free VoDs, definitely something to be excited about. Not to mention Wheat is easily the best eSports caster out there.


I think Day9 and Husky make a great combo aswell. If I had to watch a game casted by a single caster, I'd pick Khaldor in German, even though I don't understand the German language, he knows how to get the spectator excited.

EDIT: I was just checking this thread and I checked the IPL vods just now, and oh my god man that is amazing production. I loved the comic-book style artwork and flashy "BAM BAM" score screen after games.

About NASL vs IPL, I think IPL at the moment is definitely way better than NASL in some aspects, but remember what Incontrol said, they don't have a studio full of people working on it, I'm sure when NASL gets more support on production I think it'll be as good as IPL right now.

However, I gotta say, I loved that artwork man.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 22 2011 23:49 GMT
#730
On April 23 2011 08:46 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 00:44 Augury wrote:
They even have free VoDs, definitely something to be excited about. Not to mention Wheat is easily the best eSports caster out there.


I think Day9 and Husky make a great combo aswell. If I had to watch a game casted by a single caster, I'd pick Khaldor in German, even though I don't understand the German language, he knows how to get the spectator excited.


Enthusiasm transcends language. That and Khaldor is a handsome devil.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
April 22 2011 23:52 GMT
#731
I don't understand how people can even compare NASL vs IPL...

- 50 players vs 16 players
- 3 months to finish the league vs a few weeks...
- players from all over world vs players only from NA

Its not even really similar...

NASL is more like a sports league, with regular and play off seasons
IPL is more like a national competition, its fast and furious with only the best players from a region.

- - - -

Sure if people have little to no time to watch SC2, then ya you have to choose, but then you will have to choose between these leagues and MLG/Dreamhack/TSL, ETC...

To me its not really a competition, its just similar things that people can watch both if they want, but they offer different content.
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Xaeldaren
Profile Joined June 2010
Ireland588 Posts
April 22 2011 23:55 GMT
#732
I really think it's unfair to make comparisons between IPL and NASL given the disparity in resources between the two.

Regardless, competition can only drive both groups on to bigger and better things and their mere existence is incredibly exciting for eSports as a whole.
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
April 22 2011 23:55 GMT
#733
IPL Season 1 is just a showcase though. They plan on making it bigger along with the prize money, etc.

Season 2 will have 32 players with 4 player seeded from Season 1

So yeah. IPL alone is enough for my sc need. I don't think there's a reason to pay for NASL unless you're a hardcore fan.
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
April 23 2011 00:02 GMT
#734
Was that a new track too? It was so epic! And wow what the hell is going on are they actually on time???
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 23 2011 00:05 GMT
#735
i found many of IPL's games boring, granted there isn't much they could do and there WERE interesting games (ex. CatZ bossing on tal dar'im)

To be honest i prefer NASL because i personally love gretorp and incontrol's casting and find the level of play to be higher, seeing as it's a global league
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
April 23 2011 00:17 GMT
#736
This is soooo good :O I don't want to be mean but i think this can be the end of the NASL if he don't upgrade his stream. IPL is just perfect. No lagg, FREE !!! and good and the production look really professional
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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
April 23 2011 00:18 GMT
#737
On April 23 2011 08:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 08:46 Bleak wrote:
On April 23 2011 00:44 Augury wrote:
They even have free VoDs, definitely something to be excited about. Not to mention Wheat is easily the best eSports caster out there.


I think Day9 and Husky make a great combo aswell. If I had to watch a game casted by a single caster, I'd pick Khaldor in German, even though I don't understand the German language, he knows how to get the spectator excited.


Enthusiasm transcends language. That and Khaldor is a handsome devil.


Khaldor is probably the closest caster to you in terms of style. His English casting really good, but his German is superb. I remember tuning into the Assembly and just opened one of the streams (others were down or just not streaming matches) and I just wondered "Who the hell is this guy? He really made that game fun!" This was the same effect I've felt about the TRH video and you for the first time. Khaldor has this moments where he talks like a stimmed marine which really make me excited.

What I don't like about solo-casting:

There are periods of time where casting gets boring, because usually casters pick one of the two styles and go for it (analysis, or make-it-fun) and in solo-casting that kind of becomes too noticable which I don't like. Also, when solo-casting, there is noone to fill in the "blanks", the periods when a caster doesn't really know how to continue (especially on macro games, there's not much to talk about, an analysis type caster fills in those blanks)

I feel like Day9 is sort of a mix of both, due to his great knowledge of Starcraft for more than a decade, and also because of his daily show, he knows how to really make something funny/interesting. He also makes some hard to catch jokes (for example a marine survived in one of Boxer vs. Sen games, and Day9 said "That marine chose the Sole Survivor background in Mass Effect") If you played the game, that cracks you up man :D

"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
kataa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom384 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 00:19:40
April 23 2011 00:19 GMT
#738
Seriously, is the SC2 community so juvenile it has to always engage in 'my tournament is better?' syndrome. NASL is flawed, but very ambitious. IGN is polished but very simplistic. Nothing wrong with either approach, both have things they can improve.

The important thing is they are supporting the game we all love. All other Esports would fight and die to have either one of them, and we get both + GSL. We should just feel lucky.
borlee
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Liechtenstein246 Posts
April 23 2011 00:21 GMT
#739
is it only for me out of sync?
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
April 23 2011 00:21 GMT
#740
Stream and casters are way out of sync, GG. please fix soon IGN, yesterday it was perfect
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