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On April 14 2011 11:14 FidoDido wrote:
I agree, White-Ra definitely should've contacted NASL early on and asked to reschedule his match with July after DreamHack was over. When you host a tournament, it's up to the players to decide to show up or not, if they don't they should be disqualified. In the Olympics, if one of the athletes don't show up at all on time, you'd be disqualified no matter what your reason is. No one is going to wait 4 hours for you to perform.
They dont schedule Olympics when there is Athletics World Championships for a reason...
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On April 14 2011 11:09 NASL.tv wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:01 PraetorianX wrote:On April 14 2011 10:49 NASL.tv wrote:
a) He said "hi i make final pp my game" , despite me telling him the day before he could play from a PC cafe
What does "pp my game" mean? PP = please pause? Ah never mind, I saw above that he probably meant postpone. So White-Ra probably knew he couldn't make it in time, he asked the event organizers to postpone his game. And after that final, I'm sure White-Ra was getting hundreds of calls / texts / E-mails from various fans / family / others so it's not strange he turned off his phone. He probably didn't read those last E-mails until the day after. Correct. Despite the fact that we had told him in previous emails, "we can't postpone" and "there's a PC cafe 10 minutes away you can go to play" ... He made a choice. As I said, SjoW drove home straight after Dreamhack instead of hanging out with friends or going to a party in order to play. White-Ra could have taken 1 hour out of his schedule to play his NASL match, and then go party.
Seems like you guys are doing the same thing now for Strelok. Why can't you guys just enforce the rule, and make the decisions yourselves, instead of potentially making the player who was on-time, look bad? Fans of Ra are not happy that July took the free win, and I'm sure if Strelok opts for the win, it's not going to look good either.
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Unfortunate, as it would of been a great match to watch but its Whitera's fault, and only Whitera.
The competition needs to run, you can't expect them to accommodate every single players schedule - By the sounds he still had time to get to a lan cafe, if he actually communicated with the organizers.
In real life sports, people have managers to manage these type of situations and player's schedule.
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The funny thing is, the scheduled time WAS postponed. July and NASL gave White-Ra 4 HOURS to show up. Now, I'm not sure if White-Ra knew that NASL was going to give him an extra 195 minutes to show up BUT it is his responsibility to follow up with NASL right after his finals with MC. He chose not to attempt to contact or reply to NASL in any way and went to a party instead.
It seems pretty clear to me that it is White-Ra's fault that he received the loss. NASL and July already gave White-Ra a chance to play and he didn't take it.
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aww man... White-Ra needs to get on top of things! I really wanted to see the game. 
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Poor White-Ra. He prolly thought the game was either already forfeited or not being played, and decided to hang out with the crowd instead. Sometimes you can be too much of a boss for your own good. Only White-Ra can have something fail for him due to being too awesome.
Poor July. Glad he just took the win he should never have been asked to take but gotten from NASL without asking him instead. Too bad he had to wait for it, but he got a free walk so at least he doesnt go completely uncompensated for.
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"a free win or reschedule" Of course its the free win. I got my liquidbet right but such a shame it's not a real match.
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Aw was really looking forward to this match. Kinda disappointed
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=( really bad, would've loved to see the match. But 4 hour waiting is pretty fair i think.
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True, it was sad to see that the game is cancelled. But I agree to the call. Anw, it doesn't mean that white-ra going to be banned for the tourney, and its extended format will allow him to swing back. let's just hope that he does =)
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I can't fault July for taking the free win after waking up that early and waiting for 4 hours, but I've got to wonder why NASL isn't able to alter their schedule given the timing of other major tournaments.
I'd be surprised if Sjow played well given that he had to play from a LAN center. It's not like the date of Dreamhack was a secret. They should have altered the schedule over a week ago when these dates and the players involved were already well known. They could have simply switched WhiteRa & Sjow's matches to Thursday and moved two of the Thursday games up a day. Or arranged for WhiteRa & Sjow to play their NASL opponents a day earlier.
This just seems like a complete lack of foresight. After the end of Round 1 at Dreamhack it was clear that either Sjow or WhiteRa was going to be playing in the finals.
Between this and the absurd lag for Rainbow on Day 1, NASL hasn't gotten off to a great start.
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NASL made the right decision to extend the grace period for White-Ra. However, if a player does not arrive within the extension; if a player is absent, then the decision - forfeiture or re-scheduling of match - should not be left to his opponent. NASL staff should bear that responsibility. If time-constraints do not allow for re-matches, then they should create an automatic forfeiture that comes into effect when there is an absence.
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Lol 27 pages of discussions and nobody ever tought he maybe forgot he had NASL after dreamhack?
He is playing a match against MC who is considerable the best player of the world, i think all his focus goes to the match and not what to do after.
After the match is over he just wanted to have a good time and completely forgot about it.
yes he should have thought about it but humans forgot things sometimes, no reason to make false theory's like "he didn't care" or "he didn't even attemp to play his NASL match"
That seems the most logical theory depending if the posts here are right.
On the other hand, mad props for july for waiting 4hours extra when your match already is at 4 am
But the NASL should have said that july got the win, not shoving the responibility to the player.
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All the players know the rules of the league. In reality, it is only 1 loss and it probably wont affect his overall score that much. I doubt any single player will go completely undefeated in the league. I'd be willing to bet that is how White-Ra looked at the situation. He prioritized Dreamhack Finals over NASL week 1 ( of course, no one can blame him) But losing the first week of NASL really will not harm him THAT much as long as he performs well in the rest of the matches.
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On April 14 2011 11:42 Assirra wrote:
Lol 27 pages of discussions and nobody ever tought he maybe forgot he had NASL after dreamhack?
He asked for a postponement while he was at DH. I think the more likely thing is White-ra meant postpone as in another day, not in a couple hours.
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On April 14 2011 11:49 Spacemanspiff wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 11:42 Assirra wrote:
Lol 27 pages of discussions and nobody ever tought he maybe forgot he had NASL after dreamhack? He asked for a postponement while he was at DH. I think the more likely thing is White-ra meant postpone as in another day, not in a couple hours.
Yeah I dont understand why people cant see that, especially considering there is a bit of a language issue.
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He asked for a postponement while he was at DH. I think the more likely thing is White-ra meant postpone as in another day, not in a couple hours.
QFT
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So white-ra didn't show up for his scheduled time, failed to reschedule and instead went to a party! It aint his fault. Wtf (irony)
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July only cares about money, he's getting pretty old and has to go to the army soon. He's only focused on making money because he thinks that after he goes to the army he wont be a progamer anymore.
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good luck to both parties in both of their tournaments XD
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