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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
April 13 2011 09:05 GMT
#1
Taken from PlayXP.com

*Before you read, here are the following reactions that I have omitted.

1. Questions regarding where they can watch the VOD's.
2. Questions regarding what time the event was.
3. Other questions that add no value to the topic

Enjoy*

Also to koreans

Crazy is close to the way we say "sick" So it's a compliment.



"Didn't expect anything else from MC"

"MC!!!"

"Great ones win by L L W W W"

"Didn't expect anything else from MC!!"

"MC made another $15,000... Must be nice"

"3 Wins after 2 losses... What's up?"

"If MC get results at this pace, you'll be making bank"

"By proxying the last game he may make lots of haters in TL, but what else can you do in a PvP? You should blame the loser not the winner... two 4 gates and 1 proxy gates"
[Seriously, after coming back from the bans guys, read this written by Boe.]

"Monster MC lolol, truly the best"

"Expected MC!"

"To see a build seen during BETA in the final game lol"

"To take 2 games off of MC. White-Ra is crazy. He's over 30 too.."

"MC lost 3 times to White-Ra sad.."
[MC lost to White-Ra previously on GSL WC]

'Idra hahahahha, Everytime I watch Idra i feel sorry for him...... hahahaha. Didn't he meet another korean and lose in the semis before?"

"A foreigner winning a tournament seems not too long"

"Idra, why do you always shiver your teeth and be nervous when facing a korean? I don't know how many times it's been doing well till meeting a korean and losing..... -_____-"

"White-Ra is seriously crazy crazy lol. He has another job besides pro-gaming"

"I think the most successful player is White-Ra. He's over 30 yet producing great and consistent results"

"After looking at MC's results. In GSL 14 wins 1 loss.. Yet he already lost 3 times to White-Ra...
I honestly thought foreigners were weaker but White-Ra with his age and another job.. He is seriously admirable."

"I believe the final showed some diverse PvP games"

"It was worth it to stay up and watch it. Idra doing a fucking 6pool made me laugh so hard... Also MC playing seriously by going his standard 4 gate after the 2 losses was great"

"I give a big applaud to White-Ra for taking 2 games off of MC in PvP"

"MC is the next emperor"

"Wow White-Ra was a beat against Jinro. MC on the other hand is a monster..."

"To take 2 games off of MC, White-Ra is good"

"I was scared MC would lose.."




Karma is a bitch
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 13 2011 09:13 GMT
#2
Ty for these, always nice to read what they have to say. Pretty much agree with the koreans too, especially on the account that foreigners are closer than they think to koreans, especially if the old 30+ year old with another job and a wife can take more games off MC than any gsl protosses yet
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Akamiri
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Vietnam401 Posts
April 13 2011 09:18 GMT
#3
THanks a bunch <3<3<3 the comments seem really nice :D
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lungo
Profile Joined October 2005
Denmark276 Posts
April 13 2011 09:29 GMT
#4
the beast from the east! they know him, we know him!
as Arnold said: you have been erased! but dont worry!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 11:47:59
April 13 2011 09:32 GMT
#5
In the left corner we have the Western communities calling MC bullshit and cheesy and that he didn't deserve to win, in the right corner we have the Korean Netizens, calling him that he played well and deserved to win.

Guess that is where the difference is.

:>
WriterXiao8~~
FFTiDe
Profile Joined April 2011
28 Posts
April 13 2011 10:05 GMT
#6
Hehe, thx for translations. It is nice to see that they respect White-Ra, he truly is a baller
GG
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 13 2011 10:49 GMT
#7
White ra is indeed baller.
Jaedong :3
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 11:00:16
April 13 2011 10:59 GMT
#8
Awesome to hear Korean netizens complimenting White-Ra, he's such a beast player and nice person


On April 13 2011 18:32 Kipsate wrote:
In the left corner we have the Western communities calling MC bullshit and cheesy and that he didn't deserve to win, in the right corner we have the Korean Netizens, calling him that he play well and deserved to win.

Guess that is where the difference is.

:>


So true, pretty funny now that i think of it
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 11:17:29
April 13 2011 11:13 GMT
#9
On April 13 2011 18:32 Kipsate wrote:
In the left corner we have the Western communities calling MC bullshit and cheesy and that he didn't deserve to win, in the right corner we have the Korean Netizens, calling him that he play well and deserved to win.

Guess that is where the difference is.

:>

You mean we have fanboys hurt that whitera lost in the fashion he did. I am not gonna lie, I was rooting for him after his recent performances as well but some people forget these guys are professionals and are trying to win. Its the bandwagoners!

May seem like an extreme example but if a goalie is known to be solid low, is it cheese to go top shelf? No it's a nice shot.. therefore gg mc.

Thanks for the kr reactions, always fun to read.
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
April 13 2011 11:42 GMT
#10
Netizens are always fun to read.
Stork protoss legend
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
April 13 2011 11:45 GMT
#11
Nice to see they respect White-Ra. ANd yeah, he's damn good.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 11:56:43
April 13 2011 11:54 GMT
#12
"Deserving" to win... such a silly, thoroughly western (i.e. Judeo-Christian) notion.
Winners win. What else can one say?

White-Ra is my hero. MC won. White-Ra is still my hero.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
April 13 2011 12:33 GMT
#13
On April 13 2011 20:54 Redunzl wrote:
"Deserving" to win... such a silly, thoroughly western (i.e. Judeo-Christian) notion.
Winners win. What else can one say?

White-Ra is my hero. MC won. White-Ra is still my hero.


Yeah, "deserve" is a very strange concept if you think about it. You earn something, but you never deserve anything except according to your own moral standards.
If one supposedly "deserves" to win, why play the match at all?
Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 13:32:46
April 13 2011 13:31 GMT
#14
On April 13 2011 21:33 Harrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 20:54 Redunzl wrote:
"Deserving" to win... such a silly, thoroughly western (i.e. Judeo-Christian) notion.
Winners win. What else can one say?

White-Ra is my hero. MC won. White-Ra is still my hero.


Yeah, "deserve" is a very strange concept if you think about it. You earn something, but you never deserve anything except according to your own moral standards.
If one supposedly "deserves" to win, why play the match at all?



It is a subjective notion, like so many other subjective notions in the world. Until I see you logically bash all subjective notions I dont see why you should even care for such a small one
Use the force.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
April 13 2011 14:15 GMT
#15
On April 13 2011 18:32 Kipsate wrote:
In the left corner we have the Western communities calling MC bullshit and cheesy and that he didn't deserve to win, in the right corner we have the Korean Netizens, calling him that he played well and deserved to win.

Guess that is where the difference is.

:>


Except Koreans aren't petty like Westerners and pay respect to White Ra as well. Guess that's where the difference is.
shaman6ix
Profile Joined January 2011
Greece212 Posts
April 13 2011 15:45 GMT
#16
On April 13 2011 23:15 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 18:32 Kipsate wrote:
In the left corner we have the Western communities calling MC bullshit and cheesy and that he didn't deserve to win, in the right corner we have the Korean Netizens, calling him that he played well and deserved to win.

Guess that is where the difference is.

:>


Except Koreans aren't petty like Westerners and pay respect to White Ra as well. Guess that's where the difference is.


This.
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
April 14 2011 03:52 GMT
#17
Thanks for translation. Koreans sound so manner in comparison. Did you cut out a lot of the negative comments? xD
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 14 2011 04:03 GMT
#18
On April 14 2011 12:52 hazelynut wrote:
Thanks for translation. Koreans sound so manner in comparison. Did you cut out a lot of the negative comments? xD


Yea, are there any negative comments? Either way, White-Ra will get his revenge soon!
Life?
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 04:05:28
April 14 2011 04:04 GMT
#19
Great translations.

Did most Korean Sc2 fans transition from BW? This might explain the difference in mentality (as opposed, say, to the cesspool that is NASL chat).
?
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
April 14 2011 04:05 GMT
#20
White-Ra deserves the respect and I'm glad they give him that. Idra on the other hand....Did they not like him in Korea or something, I feel like most of them are mocking him haha...
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
April 14 2011 04:16 GMT
#21
White-Ra, baller. That is all.
savior & jaedong
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 14 2011 04:18 GMT
#22
"MC is the next emperor"

i lol'd
starleague forever
SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
April 14 2011 04:30 GMT
#23
On April 14 2011 13:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 12:52 hazelynut wrote:
Thanks for translation. Koreans sound so manner in comparison. Did you cut out a lot of the negative comments? xD


Yea, are there any negative comments? Either way, White-Ra will get his revenge soon!


I stated I translated everything except stupid questions in the thread so there weren't negative comments.
Karma is a bitch
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 14 2011 09:01 GMT
#24
WhiteRa=Rocky Balboa.

Standing up to the champ. Doesn't matter if he lost.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
April 14 2011 11:45 GMT
#25
A lot of Korean love for White-Ra Much deserved too.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 14 2011 12:05 GMT
#26
On April 14 2011 20:45 fishbowl wrote:
A lot of Korean love for White-Ra Much deserved too.

I don't understand how anyone is capable of hating White-Ra. He could be the worst SC2 player of all time, yet his bubbly personality, his profound manner, and his hilarious Ukrainian accent still make him a lovable character.

He's such a nice guy, and I definitely would have a few beers with him (though I don't drink lol)
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33420 Posts
April 14 2011 16:05 GMT
#27
moved to Starcraft II general, this stuff is hot :O
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
April 14 2011 16:12 GMT
#28
I wish for a live report like theirs....
IMNestea's biggest fan.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
April 14 2011 16:15 GMT
#29
Thanks :D

Wonder what they thought about the other players

I guess they were not really that impressive. White Ra and MC stole the show
We talkin about PRACTICE
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 14 2011 16:17 GMT
#30
Aw, Morrow gets no cred for taking a game off of MC
Alver
Profile Joined November 2010
United States177 Posts
April 14 2011 16:24 GMT
#31
On April 13 2011 20:54 Redunzl wrote:
"Deserving" to win... such a silly, thoroughly western (i.e. Judeo-Christian) notion.
Winners win. What else can one say?

White-Ra is my hero. MC won. White-Ra is still my hero.


gonna have to agree completely. if anyone takes something from this thread i hope its this.

you blame the game when the best strategy isint entertaining to watch but you give the winner respect regardless.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 14 2011 16:24 GMT
#32
WhiteRa may not have won, but he gained the respect of Korea everywhere. And in the end isn't that what truly matters?



No. WhiteRa should have at least got a bit of cash for his efforts. The stupid prize pool (winner takes all) ruins what was an otherwise amazing tournament.
But yeah, reading the Korean response is always nice.
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
April 14 2011 16:26 GMT
#33
It was only a matter of time before the Koreans recognized the greatness that is White-Ra. The beast from the west.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
War Horse
Profile Joined January 2011
United States247 Posts
April 14 2011 16:26 GMT
#34
On April 14 2011 13:05 MetalMarine wrote:
White-Ra deserves the respect and I'm glad they give him that. Idra on the other hand....Did they not like him in Korea or something, I feel like most of them are mocking him haha...

He BMs Koreans on ladder with racial slurs like "Kimchi man". Its why Zenio and the oGs players despise him
Why appeal to God when you can appeal to Apaches?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:28:35
April 14 2011 16:28 GMT
#35
deserve is meaningless, it comes from the age of entitlement

earned is the only worthwhile word. people earn respect, they don't deserve it.

White-Ra earned respect due to his long history and recent success
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
April 14 2011 16:28 GMT
#36
I'm really disappointed that the international fans whined enough about the proxy gates that MC felt the need to justify himself on Twitter. Really bad impression from our community imo.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44448 Posts
April 14 2011 16:28 GMT
#37
"MC is the next emperor."



And I'm lovin all the love for White-Ra too ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 14 2011 16:30 GMT
#38
Thanks alot. Great translations.
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
April 14 2011 16:32 GMT
#39
I absolutely love hearing what the korean netizens have to say about foreigners.

Thanks for the translations.
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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
April 14 2011 16:32 GMT
#40
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busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:33:09
April 14 2011 16:32 GMT
#41
Thx for translations, always appreciated.

Btw no one is mentioning that they played K-pop? :DD haha
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
April 14 2011 16:33 GMT
#42
thanks for translation
and gogo white ra !!!
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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
April 14 2011 16:34 GMT
#43
Thanks for the translation. These are great.
RIP MBC Game Hero
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
April 14 2011 16:35 GMT
#44
The legend of white-ra has spread throughout the world.
Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
April 14 2011 16:43 GMT
#45
On April 15 2011 01:28 Hot_Bid wrote:
I'm really disappointed that the international fans whined enough about the proxy gates that MC felt the need to justify himself on Twitter. Really bad impression from our community imo.


hang out on some other forums and you'll be ok
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Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
April 14 2011 16:44 GMT
#46
I hope noone translated a lot of TL replies to playxp after MC won some of those were plain embarrassing such as calling MC a downright cheat etc
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 14 2011 16:44 GMT
#47
the game morrow took looked so awesome at the end hehe that base really was a deathtrap, though early aggression from the toss on crossfire was a bit strange.

Whitera is really my favorite toss for a long time now, to bad we got no round of drinks at the dreamhack after the finals though . But the last game was lovely i guess no one would have expected a two gate proxy in the final match, high risk but really payed off. (if he had scouted it he could have blocked one gate with buildings i belief XD.)
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
April 14 2011 16:47 GMT
#48
I thought it was a well established fact that all of the progamers play to win. When you play to win, you try to win. I cannot understand why anyone hates on MC :/

Did they also hate boxer and Nal_ra ? Or flash ? ...
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1993 Posts
April 14 2011 16:49 GMT
#49
On April 15 2011 01:28 Hot_Bid wrote:
I'm really disappointed that the international fans whined enough about the proxy gates that MC felt the need to justify himself on Twitter. Really bad impression from our community imo.


I agree with this 100%, I dont understand why he has so many haters on TL. Always nice to see the korean fans reaction to western tournaments though, thanks for the translate. As for why Idra isnt popular in korea, going around discrediting their top players such as July and calling people faggot, yeah thats real hard to comprehend.
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:50:33
April 14 2011 16:50 GMT
#50
Thanks for sharing this, it's always a pleasure to know what the korean netizens think.

Also here's a translation from MC's twitter (from this thread )
On April 15 2011 00:32 jspark703 wrote:
oGsMC on Twitter: 누가 영어로 해석해서 나를 욕하는 외국인에게 보여줬으면 좋겠다 화이트라는 5판연속같은빌드를 했고 난 그 빌드의 카운터빌드를 했을뿐인데 그걸 가지고 치즈라니 질럿 안뽑고 시작하니까 전진게이트를 하지... 천칠백만원짜리 게임인데 확신이있으니깐 한거고

Translation: I hope someone can translate this and show it to non-koreans that are trolling about me. Whitera did the same build 5 times and I just countered it and what is cheese about that? he doesnt get the first zealot and I of course do proxy gate.. it was a 15000$ game and I did it because I was certain of it.

Can't argue against that
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Incursus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States415 Posts
April 14 2011 16:51 GMT
#51
On April 15 2011 01:28 Hot_Bid wrote:
I'm really disappointed that the international fans whined enough about the proxy gates that MC felt the need to justify himself on Twitter. Really bad impression from our community imo.



Indeed, we encourage Koreans to attend foreign tournaments and insult them when they win? I love White Ra, but MC won fair and square and I still love them both as players.
Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice...appears under your feet.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 14 2011 16:53 GMT
#52
On April 15 2011 01:44 Resilient wrote:
I hope noone translated a lot of TL replies to playxp after MC won some of those were plain embarrassing such as calling MC a downright cheat etc


I believe most Koreans are capable of at least rudimentary reading comprehension in English, even though they struggle with speaking. If anyone at playxp really wanted to know what us non-foreigners thought, I'm pretty sure they would just open the LR thread.
TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
April 14 2011 16:55 GMT
#53
On April 15 2011 01:24 MCDayC wrote:
WhiteRa may not have won, but he gained the respect of Korea everywhere. And in the end isn't that what truly matters?



No. WhiteRa should have at least got a bit of cash for his efforts. The stupid prize pool (winner takes all) ruins what was an otherwise amazing tournament.
But yeah, reading the Korean response is always nice.



2nd place got 2250
CrAzEdBaDgEr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada166 Posts
April 14 2011 16:56 GMT
#54
MC deserved it (since he won, he deserved to win), and played the last game perfectly to counter WhiteRa's slightly economically greedy no zealot build. I really don't see the problem here. It was extremely intelligent and was obviously very well executed.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 14 2011 16:56 GMT
#55
On April 15 2011 01:17 hugman wrote:
Aw, Morrow gets no cred for taking a game off of MC

This . I would have liked to have seen some reaction from that .
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Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
April 14 2011 16:58 GMT
#56
On April 13 2011 18:32 Kipsate wrote:
In the left corner we have the Western communities calling MC bullshit and cheesy and that he didn't deserve to win, in the right corner we have the Korean Netizens, calling him that he play well and deserved to win.

Guess that is where the difference is.

:>


I heared a lot of players on tl.net calling MC a god. I guess the difference is what you wanna hear.

I think MC played well. Im not korean.

:>
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frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
April 14 2011 16:59 GMT
#57
MC deserved that honestly. If he did 3 of 4 proxy gates, fair enough. But that proxy gate on that last map was pure genius. I personally don't like MC in general but he did take a fair and square win at Dreamhack.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 14 2011 16:59 GMT
#58
Love to read these, and love to see that they respect White-ra-- he deserves our respect.
Moderator
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 14 2011 16:59 GMT
#59
SiZ.FaNtAsY very cool of you to be doing all these translations. Thanks!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 17:04:56
April 14 2011 17:00 GMT
#60
oGsMC: "누 가 영어로 해석해서 나를 욕하는 외국인에게 보여줬으면 좋겠다 화이트라는 5판연속같은빌드를 했고 난 그 빌드의 카운터빌드를 했을뿐인데 그걸 가지고 치즈라니 질럿 안뽑고 시작하니까 전진게이트를 하지... 천칠백만원짜리 게임인데 확신이있으니깐 한거고"

"I wish someone would translate this into English and show it to any foreigner who is calling me names. White-Ra used the same build all 5 games and I merely countered it. He kept skipping the first zealot so I proxy gated him. I used that build because I was confident that it will work as there was $15,000 on the line after all"

EDIT: oops, looks like someone already quoted MC's twitter up there. My apologies.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 14 2011 17:01 GMT
#61
On April 15 2011 01:47 Tufas wrote:
I thought it was a well established fact that all of the progamers play to win. When you play to win, you try to win. I cannot understand why anyone hates on MC :/

Did they also hate boxer and Nal_ra ? Or flash ? ...

Yes, actually
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 14 2011 17:01 GMT
#62
And to add, MC does as well. Totally agree with Hot_Bid, our community sometimes needs to grow up a bit. Well played MC!
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vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
April 14 2011 17:01 GMT
#63
On April 15 2011 01:50 AlBundy wrote:
Thanks for sharing this, it's always a pleasure to know what the korean netizens think.

Also here's a translation from MC's twitter (from this thread )
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On April 15 2011 00:32 jspark703 wrote:
oGsMC on Twitter: 누가 영어로 해석해서 나를 욕하는 외국인에게 보여줬으면 좋겠다 화이트라는 5판연속같은빌드를 했고 난 그 빌드의 카운터빌드를 했을뿐인데 그걸 가지고 치즈라니 질럿 안뽑고 시작하니까 전진게이트를 하지... 천칠백만원짜리 게임인데 확신이있으니깐 한거고

Translation: I hope someone can translate this and show it to non-koreans that are trolling about me. Whitera did the same build 5 times and I just countered it and what is cheese about that? he doesnt get the first zealot and I of course do proxy gate.. it was a 15000$ game and I did it because I was certain of it.

Can't argue against that


wow, MC really didn't need to explain himself, he deserves the win fair and square, some ppl here should really think of changing their attitudes, the way things are going this will turn into a damn Halo community with angry 12 year olds swearing all the time. Seriously as much as i wanted white ra to win and was cheering for him don't discredit MCs achievements ppl.
Good to see koreans more civilized than most of the forumers here.
For the swarm!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 14 2011 17:03 GMT
#64
On April 15 2011 01:55 TheResidentEvil wrote:
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On April 15 2011 01:24 MCDayC wrote:
WhiteRa may not have won, but he gained the respect of Korea everywhere. And in the end isn't that what truly matters?



No. WhiteRa should have at least got a bit of cash for his efforts. The stupid prize pool (winner takes all) ruins what was an otherwise amazing tournament.
But yeah, reading the Korean response is always nice.



2nd place got 2250

Really? I read pretty much everywhere that it was winner takes all. Plus the prize ceremony just showed Whitera standing among all the other players. If there is a link to confirm either way that would be good. ALTHOUGH I Whitera and MC are both automatically in the main DH event, which is a positive.
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vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 17:22:38
April 14 2011 17:15 GMT
#65
On April 15 2011 01:28 Hot_Bid wrote:
I'm really disappointed that the international fans whined enough about the proxy gates that MC felt the need to justify himself on Twitter. Really bad impression from our community imo.

I'll report them in the future if you ban them! Deal? I really hate that too... People harp all time about doing this and that for ESPORTS. How about not hating on players that actually play to win like they're supposed to. If you want "fun" games at the expense of competitive games, go watch funday monday.
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TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 17:19:16
April 14 2011 17:18 GMT
#66
I dont know where i read that. My wife asked me what 2nd place got so i remember looking it up at the time and thats what i found. Whether its right or wrong, i cant find it.

EDIT:

here is a link of someone saying the same thing as me.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IdKAuz7R9zYJ:www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211733&currentpage=549 dreamhack invitation 2nd place 2250&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 14 2011 17:19 GMT
#67
It's called a vocal minority, and there is no use complaining about it, it won't effect anything.

MC should know this by now, as the top SC2 progamer
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mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
April 14 2011 17:20 GMT
#68
On April 15 2011 01:28 Hot_Bid wrote:
I'm really disappointed that the international fans whined enough about the proxy gates that MC felt the need to justify himself on Twitter. Really bad impression from our community imo.

Unfortunately I feel like this is not the last time, especially with new ways of harassing players by twitter, ... I understand that some of them might be annoyed because they cheered for White-ra, but to go harassing MC on twitter (that's what happened as I gather ?) is so disappointing and shameful. Why would you do that, even if I really hated someone I would have never harass that person. Especially since MC is really, from all information available, very nice guy.

Really I can kind of understand posts in LR thread, people are blowing off steam, but the rest is just reinforcing gap between communities that otherwise would be shrinking and discouraging Koreans from participating in foreign events.

mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
April 14 2011 17:24 GMT
#69
On April 15 2011 02:19 Mailing wrote:
It's called a vocal minority, and there is no use complaining about it, it won't effect anything.

MC should know this by now, as the top SC2 progamer

Seeing as he was very surprised by the positive attitude and attention of fans at DH event it seems this harassment is the other side of that and not present in Korea to such a degree. It would seem that foreign fans are more emotional and vocal which might have positive side, but also the ugly one.
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
April 14 2011 17:28 GMT
#70
On April 13 2011 20:54 Redunzl wrote:
"Deserving" to win... such a silly, thoroughly western (i.e. Judeo-Christian) notion.
Winners win. What else can one say?

White-Ra is my hero. MC won. White-Ra is still my hero.


quoted for truth.

white-ra did not expect a proxy gateway, therefore proxy gateway was the best strategy possible. choosing the best strategy is how to be the best

but white-ra deserves attention for an unbelievable tournament, i've always been a huge fan.
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
April 14 2011 17:29 GMT
#71
Wow its sad that MC felt the need to explain himself on twitter due to foreigners harassing him. Some people are so effing immature its pathetic..

Gratz to MC
Awesome performance by Whitera
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 14 2011 17:35 GMT
#72
Yeah white ra is definitely beast for taking two games off MC

MC is one of the best, if not the best, player in the world, so screw stupid scrub haters
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
April 14 2011 17:37 GMT
#73
On April 13 2011 18:29 lungo wrote:
the beast from the east! they know him, we know him!


For them he is the beast from the west though! xd
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Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
April 14 2011 17:38 GMT
#74
Nice read. Good to see that White-Ra receives some well deserved respect. I agree that it's unfortunate the situation that occurred after MC's win (explaining himself over twitter), but that's just how people are over the internet. While we may want to see the more conventional macro games, pro-gamers play to win and by whatever means necessary.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
April 14 2011 17:59 GMT
#75
thanks for doing this! was wondering what the reactions to this tournament were.
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